11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Whilst certainly heavy handed , I too suggested something similar some ways back in this thread. I.e tear it up a with a proviso to 'revisit ' in a month.  That is to say  Lad you well and truly f'd that up didnt YOU....not us...YOU !!

Now you have big choices to make and much amends if we're to go forward in sync.  And quite frankly...why not ??

 

I actually wonder if there might not be something to that. You're either ON...or you're OFF   .Theyre not really indicating to anyone that they are 100% Melbourne

Perfect!!!

A lot of comments here on these guys not being best 22 and let's be realistic, they are not but at least possess the attitude that will give you every conceivable chance to become part of something great. 

First time in 10 years we might play finals and a bunch of fringe players knocking on the door of an injury riddled side choose to break team rules and get on the pizz with 6 days between games. It's not like they wouldn't have known they were vying for senior selection or that they were unaware of team rules.

Honestly, how dumb must these guys be?

 

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

First time in 10 years we might play finals and a bunch of fringe players knocking on the door of an injury riddled side choose to break team rules and get on the pizz with 6 days between games. It's not like they wouldn't have known they were vying for senior selection or that they were unaware of team rules.

Honestly, how dumb must these guys be?

 

I think they hang out with....

Just now, beelzebub said:

I think they hang out with....

Biffen and BBO?...

Well, the blowtorch is on which ever of the four are elevated into the team vs Carlton, as they've blow some credits making themselves unavailable for Friday. Similar to Lewis for his hit on Crips earlier in the year.

4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

First time in 10 years we might play finals and a bunch of fringe players knocking on the door of an injury riddled side choose to break team rules and get on the pizz with 6 days between games. It's not like they wouldn't have known they were vying for senior selection or that they were unaware of team rules.

Honestly, how dumb must these guys be?

 

Who said 'on the pizz', the over reaction on here is laughable, if the have one beer it would make them ineligible to play, not banned, barred, publicly executed       and Goody to set an example decided best course of action, to resolve the issue quickly, except on here where the hand wringers are still going 2 days later

I also find the hypocrisy distasteful as some of the hand wringers have consistently lambasted the 4 players in question as not being AFL standard, of course the could have replaced White and Wagner, who themselves are not AFL standard, and made a huge difference to the poor performance that was dished up by at least 18 last Friday

Edited July 3, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

except on here where the hand wringers are still going 2 days later

Demonland is a discussion forum, Saty.

Four selfish, undisciplined players having club-imposed match bans (when our injury list is in dire straits) is a topical issue.

If you're so enraged by other people discussing such things, why even partake? It seems that all you're doing is belittling posters actually contributing to the discussion.

Your hyperbolic defence of a group of dumb footballers breaking team rules is illogical and laughable, but not unexpected Saty. "Publicly executed"? Lol!

One minute you say only the 4 players know exactly what happened, next you're claiming they might've had only one beer. One beer! Too funny chap. How many young footballers stop at one beer?

Of course, you are welcome to your opinion, as are all apologists.

Just now, SaberFang said:

Demonland is a discussion forum, Saty.

Four selfish, undisciplined players having club-imposed match bans (when our injury list is in dire straits) is a topical issue.

If you're so enraged by other people discussing such things, why even partake? It seems that all you're doing is belittling posters actually contributing to the discussion.

If you take it as belittling, then perhaps it is you that doesn't have the stomach for on line discuusion.

I am in no way enraged, just find the over reaction, hyperbole and hypocrisy fascinating

The issue has been dealt with by the Club, the hand wringing and tut tutting is going to achieve what?

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Your hyperbolic defence of a group of dumb footballers breaking team rules is illogical and laughable, but not unexpected Saty. "Publicly executed"? Lol!

One minute you say only the 4 players know exactly what happened, next you're claiming they might've had only one beer. One beer! Too funny chap. How many young footballers stop at one beer?

Of course, you are welcome to your opinion, as are all apologists.

Misquoting, the team rule is one beer and they are ineligible, nobody knows any of the facts

I am not apologising, just offering an opinion that the Club dealt with it, didn't stop them playing for Casey, or judging by the result maybe it did?, my opinion is that they were stupid, but then again we have a forum of posters who have never [censored] up in their life and impacted others, yeah right

now...arguably to be taken with a grain ( or truck ) of salt but if the scenario ( as described by Ralph the mouth )  was even remotely close to the truth then for anyone to'continue  regardless means , most likely, as Moonie hints, ONE beer was not the case, more likely One case of beer for all as it were... known colloquially as a 'slab'...was

In for a tinnie in for a ....and so forth.

Yes...arguably conjecture.    4 blokes having a beer........ a beer ????  hmmm

You could see it getting to a point where it's ...oh wtf ..too late for us anyways !!

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Misquoting, the team rule is one beer and they are ineligible, nobody knows any of the facts

I am not apologising, just offering an opinion that the Club dealt with it, didn't stop them playing for Casey, or judging by the result maybe it did?, my opinion is that they were stupid, but then again we have a forum of posters who have never [censored] up in their life and impacted others, yeah right

I appreciate your training reports and that you are a staunch defender of the club and the players, but there is seriously no defending this action.

None of these guys deserve a life ban, but they broke very simple team rules. If they can't manage to stay off alcohol for 6 days, we have a bigger issue here. Given both the seniors and Casey lost, it would have been best for everyone had they not compromised their recovery by behaving unprofessionally. Who knows how this impacted their performance at Casey, let alone how badly it stuffed up our team selection. 

It might not be a big deal to you, but it's a big deal to the club, so much so, that we chose to compromise team selection by banning them from AFL for a week. That is a really really big call when we are struggling so much with injuries, and this was another 'must win' game. I don't think this was just a matter of 4 players have one beer too many, they obviously drank enough that it impacted their training performance the next day.

That these 4 are actually battling to get a game, makes it all the more baffling. JHK just got a contract extension too! I have no idea what they were thinking.

The most disappointing thing is that some of these fools are going to play this week due to circumstances, whereas I don't think they'd get a senior game for weeks if the situation was different, and rightly so. 

8 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Misquoting, the team rule is one beer and they are ineligible, nobody knows any of the facts

I am not apologising, just offering an opinion that the Club dealt with it, didn't stop them playing for Casey, or judging by the result maybe it did?, my opinion is that they were stupid, but then again we have a forum of posters who have never [censored] up in their life and impacted others, yeah right

really have no idea what your issue is, unless you are doing your usual trolling?

an incident occurred, we are discussing it. Clearly they are idiots and if they had of not done it, they would have helped us on friday night as they are the form players in the twos.

are you saying only if you've never had a drink can you comment on someone having a drink?

your comments make no sense. if you don't wish is discuss this, don't come on this page

No twenty-something footballer gets together with 3 teammates to have only one beer and gets caught. Of course nobody knows all the facts except that a group of fringe players vying for senior selection in an injury riddled team were dumb enough to break the team rules for getting on the pizz (or just for you chap I'll call it 'one beer') with a six day break between games. 

As I said, could they get any dumber? I truly hope not.

But keep kirvin Saty! 

Point is they didn't follow team rules .... Goodwin is setting standards/culture & making sure players earn the right to play senior footy not by default! It's the players who have let down their teammates & club here!

Welcome to bottom of the barrel ???footy !!

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Welcome to bottom of the barrel ???footy !!

That is the most accurate thing said today bb.

This is really beginning to [censored] me off.

Who are the best teams of the last 20 years?

Hawthorn - Croad, Hodge, Lewis etc...

Collingwood - the rat pack

Brisbane - Voss, Brown, Pyke

Geelong - Stevie J, Cameron Ling Abblett junior prefers grass to turf 

Drinking builds culture, it doesn't destroy it.

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

This is really beginning to [censored] me off.

Who are the best teams of the last 20 years?

Hawthorn - Croad, Hodge, Lewis etc...

Collingwood - the rat pack

Brisbane - Voss, Brown, Pyke

Geelong - Stevie J, Cameron Ling Abblett junior prefers grass to turf 

Drinking builds culture, it doesn't destroy it.

Sorry, sometimes i find it a bit hard to work out if posters are being sarcastic, post rock ironic or are actually being serious. Is this a serious post or sarcasm?

The other day i opened a thread on the Demonland dark web (i think it was was about climate change, or maybe it was about Trump - either way i fled as soon as i could). I had the same thought.

 

Edited July 3, 20178 yr by binman

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

This is really beginning to [censored] me off.

Who are the best teams of the last 20 years?

Hawthorn - Croad, Hodge, Lewis etc...

Collingwood - the rat pack

Brisbane - Voss, Brown, Pyke

Geelong - Stevie J, Cameron Ling Abblett junior prefers grass to turf 

Drinking builds culture, it doesn't destroy it.

Perhaps an even dumber comment than the act of what the fermented four actually did.

You should put that to Gil as the AFL's new moto for 2018. You'll go far.

10 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

First time in 10 years we might play finals and a bunch of fringe players knocking on the door of an injury riddled side choose to break team rules and get on the pizz with 6 days between games. It's not like they wouldn't have known they were vying for senior selection or that they were unaware of team rules.

Honestly, how dumb must these guys be?

 

I can't decide whether the stupidity or the lack of professionalism/drive frustrates me more.

Didn't any of them want to be picked for the seniors? Didn't any of them even think they were a chance to be picked for the seniors? 

Just now, titan_uranus said:

I can't decide whether the stupidity or the lack of professionalism/drive frustrates me more.

Didn't any of them want to be picked for the seniors? Didn't any of them even think they were a chance to be picked for the seniors? 

Defies logic doesn't it Your. It's almost like they are incapable of engaging a brain between them. 

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

This is really beginning to [censored] me off.

Who are the best teams of the last 20 years?

Hawthorn - Croad, Hodge, Lewis etc...

Collingwood - the rat pack

Brisbane - Voss, Brown, Pyke

Geelong - Stevie J, Cameron Ling Abblett junior prefers grass to turf 

Drinking builds culture, it doesn't destroy it.

Did you notice the result on Friday night Wrecker. Hardly the stuff of champions. At least two of that four would have played had they not blown it and the result could have been a lot closer.

6 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I can't decide whether the stupidity or the lack of professionalism/drive frustrates me more.

Didn't any of them want to be picked for the seniors? Didn't any of them even think they were a chance to be picked for the seniors? 

Not mutually independent...run with both !! 

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I can't decide whether the stupidity or the lack of professionalism/drive frustrates me more.

Didn't any of them want to be picked for the seniors? Didn't any of them even think they were a chance to be picked for the seniors? 

I suspect that three of them think they are on the outer. That does not excuse it but They may think we have been confined to casey and if you look at their lack of appearances they may be right.