Is spencer playing for Casey? 

From: Bugg, Melksham, Harmes,  JKH, OMac, Spencer, Wagner

Some talk on here previously of whether Spencer should actually come back in and I kind of understand it. Is it better knowing you're going to lose the taps than it going back to a 50/50 thing?

That said: Spencer can cover as a tall forward and Pedo is capable in defense. So, with Collingwood relatively small up front, Spence in for Omac gives a little extra flexibility.

Salem for Wagner. More flexibility again.

And JKH coming in would be ridiculous.

In: Spencer, Salem

Out: Omac, Wagner

 

18 hours ago, P-man said:

Gotta love Pencil being named on the extended bench after Goodwin was explicit about him not playing 

I'm choosing to believe it's being done to mess with their heads. That's the explanation I like best.

I'd say JKH is more a recognition selection. Would be surprised if he makes the final team.

Not about you at all P-Man - can someone give a rational  explanation in how it will mess with their heads? They'll have worked through a multitude of options based on a multitude of scenarios....so all strategies would be sorted. The Collingwood FD would not be batting eyelids at all. 

3 hours ago, Danelska said:

Not about you at all P-Man - can someone give a rational  explanation in how it will mess with their heads? They'll have worked through a multitude of options based on a multitude of scenarios....so all strategies would be sorted. The Collingwood FD would not be batting eyelids at all. 

You do realise it's Nathan Buckley?

From training looks like IN Salem OuT Wagner

gawn looks good

14 hours ago, Danelska said:

Not about you at all P-Man - can someone give a rational  explanation in how it will mess with their heads? They'll have worked through a multitude of options based on a multitude of scenarios....so all strategies would be sorted. The Collingwood FD would not be batting eyelids at all. 

What is not about me at all? I don't follow.

Sure they'll have worked through a number of options but it keeps them on their toes. That said, I doubt that's the actual reason. 

1 minute ago, P-man said:

What is not about me at all? I don't follow.

Sure they'll have worked through a number of options but it keeps them on their toes. That said, I doubt that's the actual reason. 

You posted it, I was making a distinction between someone (you) alluding to the 'messing with the heads' vs - common language that, this sort of stuff actually does mess with peoples heads (plenty of people say it/infer it). That's why I said... not about you.

A big gaping hole has opened up in the top eight for us. If we cant get up for this one we will seriously rue this missed opportunity. 

Usually I'm pretty pessimistic about the Dees but pretty confident we will get the job done tomorrow..

People should not be fooled by collingwoods recent record, they've beaten Hawthorn, Brisbane & Fremantle (their best win albeit in Perth but they just got smacked by the bottom side). Collingwooe are still an average side. Great midfield, ordinary forward line & horrible backline. 

We simply HAVE to win if we are serious about making the 8. The ladder has opened up for us a bit & a shot at 6th is on offer aswell as keeping Essendon at bay.

Dees by 21

7 hours ago, JV7 said:

The ladder has opened up for us a bit & a shot at 6th is on offer aswell as keeping Essendon at bay.

Incredible as it might seem, I have just calculated that if we win by 186 points we will be 5th.

A lot of people pretty confident on here makes me nervous.

Collingwood are a side that find away to win when they have their backs against the wall. They love being the underdog. I know all the facts lead to Melbourne being the favourites but they are a side that can will their way to winning especially on the big stage (they've done it to Geelong quite often).

I won't be able to have this 'we will get the job done' confidence until this side is more consistent. If we bring the concentration and intensity we had against Adelaide and much of the Geelong/Richmond games we will be in with a chance. But if we play patchier football that we have seen for most of this season so far, Collingwood will take advantage.

I watched last years QB game and it was Jesse providing a consistent marking option up forward and Gawn being simply brilliant that made it incredibly difficult for Collingwood to stay in the game. I am worried that we might be reviewing a loss on Tuesday where we really missed our two best marking options.

Most obvious statement but if we start this game right it will take the pressure off. Would love to see us start tomorrows game like we started the second half against GCS in Alice.

Edited June 11, 20178 yr by mongrel

On 09/06/2017 at 9:47 AM, Travis16 said:

Skinny kid debuting on QB........jack watts anyone ?

 

That skinny kid will get plenty of the ball. If we don't respect this kid, first game or not, he is capable of punishing us.

Deeman,that figure of 186 pts (win) brings back nightmares,that was our loss to Geelong under Neeld. Back to the SHIRAZ 

Last years QB:  1st 2nd 3rd 4th

1 hour ago, Deeman said:

Incredible as it might seem, I have just calculated that if we win by 186 points we will be 5th.

would love  a win by that margin on so many levels.

I can recall a few one hundred point wins in our more recent glory days but never by that much.

Somehow those margins don't happen any more .... at least for us

4 hours ago, Deeman said:

Incredible as it might seem, I have just calculated that if we win by 186 points we will be 5th.

Get it done Dees.

The closer we get to being a good side the more it hurts when we lose, I know we can and should but feeling a bit sick in the guts at the moment. Come on Boys get it done!!! Go Dee's!!!!

22 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

A big gaping hole has opened up in the top eight for us. If we cant get up for this one we will seriously rue this missed opportunity. 

It's opened up for the Pies also.

This game is massive - almost more than an 8 point game.

 

3 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

The closer we get to being a good side the more it hurts when we lose, I know we can and should but feeling a bit sick in the guts at the moment. Come on Boys get it done!!! Go Dee's!!!!

This. 

I think I'm going to spew I'm so wound up, don't know how much sleep will be had tonight.

we just have to find a way to win. We just have to...

 

9 hours ago, Deeman said:

Incredible as it might seem, I have just calculated that if we win by 186 points we will be 5th.

Don't... Those 3 numbers are embedded in my mind!

Earlier in the year we had a similarly big build up to the Richmond game and ran out of legs with injuries taking its toll. Still I felt like that had we won that night it would've set our year up not just in terms of wins on the board but showing the ability to push through when our backs were against the wall. Of course it ended up being the 3rd loss on the trot from a winning position and has meant we've been playing catch up ever since. 

This game places us in an equally important position as a win puts us right back in the mix for a top 6 spot while a loss will set us back to the pack. With the evenness of the competition games like this are absolutely crucial for building momentum, but should we make the finals this will be great "big game" experience for our club. 

We will have to rise to the occasion, contest every ball as hard as possible, execute our game plan correctly, and finish off the good work by putting it through the big sticks. If ever the players needed reminding that you need to bring it every week then the weekends results should be it. 

4 hours ago, JV7 said:

Don't... Those 3 numbers are embedded in my mind!

Don't get too excited JV7. Whenever we have the chance to break into the top-5 by beating a team below us on ladder by 30 goals we seem to fluff it. Just can't handle the pressure of expectation. Mental fragility still defines this club. Will never change.

4 hours ago, JV7 said:

Don't... Those 3 numbers are embedded in my mind!

I was there - live and in person. Scarred me for life.

7 hours ago, Tessaract said:

 

Wow! Elliott Smith being referenced on Demonland - FMD.