36 minutes ago, CatFishPig said:

He will go to the Pies if he comes to Victoria surely?

Why? Playing with your brother is overrated IMO. Even if they play at different ends of the ground. Easier to be your own man at a different club in this day and age. 

If I were him I'd make the decision based upon:
1. Money
2. Success
3. Place in the team structure - a starting CHF gig, preferably without ruck duties.

Geelong could make a convincing case to play him CHF, with Hawkins FF and Blicavs back up ruck with Taylor going to full back if Lonergan retires. Richmond could have him at CHF with Jack Riewoldt playing deeper. There's a number of clubs who might offer a lot better success and role than the Pies, and who knows how they are placed for cash.

47 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Why? Playing with your brother is overrated IMO. Even if they play at different ends of the ground. Easier to be your own man at a different club in this day and age. 

If I were him I'd make the decision based upon:
1. Money
2. Success
3. Place in the team structure - a starting CHF gig, preferably without ruck duties.

Geelong could make a convincing case to play him CHF, with Hawkins FF and Blicavs back up ruck with Taylor going to full back if Lonergan retires. Richmond could have him at CHF with Jack Riewoldt playing deeper. There's a number of clubs who might offer a lot better success and role than the Pies, and who knows how they are placed for cash.

Collingwood's deficiency is his capability.  They need a KPF to support the developing Moore.

13 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Collingwood's deficiency is his capability.  They need a KPF to support the developing Moore.

So do we...and it's very much our deficiency.

1 minute ago, rjay said:

So do we...and it's very much our deficiency.

No I don't think our need is there.  Weed is developing and will play that role.  This year we've been because of circumstance but as Weed and King mature the need evaporates.

One of our primary needs is a Fwd/ruck.  I see Reid has been eased into rucking and is now doing a fair bit with Tippett out.  If he is a good 2nd ruck, Id go after him. he is 25 and should be hitting his peak soon

2 hours ago, CatFishPig said:

He will go to the Pies if he comes to Victoria surely?

Will depend mainly on $$$, contract and playing opportunities.

Who knows, may not like his bro?

using Mayne as a comparison if Reid goes to the Pies, I can only assume he'll be on $1 mil/yr!

Three sets of opposing brothers for Melbourne v Collingwood and we can change the Queen's Bday to the William-Harry Cup. 

Injury prone player? Let Collingwood pay him 600k to join Well and Mayne......

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

Unleash the war chest!

15 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

Lever's put off contract talks until the end of the year, so it's a start.

I don't think we'll be alone in pursuing those two.

Very much doubt Reid will be leaving the Swans. Tippett triggered a clause in his contract which meant he is on big bucks this year care of his original contract. Swans would never have paid him that sort of money for his output. He'll either have to play for half the money next year or more likely get traded out. Swans will need Reid more than ever and have put years of rehab investment into him. His kicking has improved massively this year and he's an exceptional overhead mark. Swans will need him but not sure where he would fit in for us unless the decision is the Weid is a dud. We've got Watts in there plus Hewlett coming through and Smith in the background. 

We tried to trade Trengrove out to get the pick we would have used to get Lever so we wanted him really badly in that draft. I'm sure we're still very keen. Who knows. Not sure what we'll have to give up for him. Not sure he's worth our first rounder. 

2 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Not sure he's worth our first rounder. 

You're right, he's worth more.

25 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

By the looks of things at the moment, Lever could well be a premiership defender, which would both increase his $ value, and perhaps make him want to stay put.

On 02/05/2017 at 1:55 PM, DeeSpencer said:

Why? Playing with your brother is overrated IMO. Even if they play at different ends of the ground. Easier to be your own man at a different club in this day and age. 

If I were him I'd make the decision based upon:
1. Money
2. Success
3. Place in the team structure - a starting CHF gig, preferably without ruck duties.

Geelong could make a convincing case to play him CHF, with Hawkins FF and Blicavs back up ruck with Taylor going to full back if Lonergan retires. Richmond could have him at CHF with Jack Riewoldt playing deeper. There's a number of clubs who might offer a lot better success and role than the Pies, and who knows how they are placed for cash.

Interesting thoughts - but do you KNOW that he doesn't want to share ruck duties?  Could see it as an opportunity to diversify.

44 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

Perhaps they're reporting what Demonlanders want to happen?

People get very excited about player types. We're so desperate for a ruck/forward player to chop Maxy out I even heard some people say they wanted Vickery, which absolutely stunned me. If you take it as read that Vickery is a terrible, terrible AFL footballer, then the facts he's a good bloke and knows his way around a ruck contest are moot. This team is building to threaten for a flag, we can't hold onto other teams list clogger just cos we need a type of player. That's Richmond-style drafting.

So I'm interested in seeing a lot of fairly glass-half-empty type posters say they like him. I've only seen him monster a handful of games, and then he really goes missing a lot. And factor in the injury history. I can't see the excitement? Lever > May > Reid for me.

reckon sam reid, if on the market, would get 500-550k. little bit harder now to estimate with the new player/cap deal

20 hours ago, Danelska said:

Perhaps they're reporting what Demonlanders want to happen?

wouldnt be the first time we've driven the news.

Big shout out to all the media coat-tailers out there !!

At his best Reid is an attractive target, but I strongly doubt he is durable enough to warrant eating $600K p.a. of the salary cap.

Personally I am of the view that Jack Watts is a very good relief ruckman and the Gawn/Watts combo is the best in the competition. So I don't see the need for a second ruck being as high a priority as others. (I would not be against drafting such a player with a later pick.) There is also a chance that the AFL change to a last touch rule on the boundary, which would make ruckman even less important.

22 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

SEN reported today (grain of salt , I know) that we are targeting Jake Lever and Steven May.

Looks like a key back is on the menu. 

Was it some random caller? Or was it one of the program hosts?

 

There is a monumental difference in the size of the salt grain depending on whom.

3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

At his best Reid is an attractive target, but I strongly doubt he is durable enough to warrant eating $600K p.a. of the salary cap.

Personally I am of the view that Jack Watts is a very good relief ruckman and the Gawn/Watts combo is the best in the competition. So I don't see the need for a second ruck being as high a priority as others. (I would not be against drafting such a player with a later pick.) There is also a chance that the AFL change to a last touch rule on the boundary, which would make ruckman even less important.

The problem is the Gawn/Watts combination does take quite a bit from our forwardline. If Weideman comes on quicker than expected and provides Hogan the chop out when Watts doesn't because he's rucking, then I think it becomes one of the best combinations in the league.

Right now though, Watts is too valuable for our forwardline and playing him in the ruck feels bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. That said, I have been a massive fan of the move in general, as it gets Jack into the game and forces him to work on his physicality. 

3 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Was it some random caller? Or was it one of the program hosts?

 

There is a monumental difference in the size of the salt grain depending on whom.

One of the hosts...  no idea who, I didn't hear it, was told by a mate.  Hopefully it wasnt Jon Ralph.

He's the sort of player we should target. But hopefully we have spotted a similar prospect scooting under the radar.