2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Can be true.

However this wasn't the case for the most part. Seemed lost and behind the game speed somewhat. 

Im a little old school perhaps in that i favour the forwards m-o to be more orientated about kicking scores or assisting rather than chasing the ball ( oppo player with said ball ) going the other way.

Either he starts delivering or for mine hes off our list come eos.

Defensive pressure is good. Cant be your only trick though.

Strange idea that dd.

Forwards are supposed to hurt the opposition!

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55 minutes ago, old dee said:

You have a way better opinion of him than me RN.

Now that does not make you wrong just a lot different.

when he missed that easy goal in the first quarter last week he dropped to the " will let us down when it counts" list for me RN.

Sorry you were of course referring to JKH OD. My mistake. I don't disagree at all re the standard of his game last week and where he may sit. Where I do differ is the chopping and changing of bringing 'any' player in for only one game then throwing him out the next week, regardless of how he performed In his first entre' (unless he kept tunnel balling or kicking the ball in the oppositions direction or something bizzare like that lol). Also team match ups / venue might mean he is horses for courses one week but not the next. I get that. But otherwise what's the point of bringing a player in if you aren't going to back him and your own initial decision and give him a decent run in order to settle, come up to AFL speed/match fitness and show something? (that the match committee/FD must have seen or known ....things that we don't!??).

If he (or anyone else) continues to under perform in the next match or two (provided it's not one week in isolation in a first up match coming in from Casey) then by all means they should be looked at for someone in better form, if there is that someone. Sadly OD we have just about used our entire stock of players that 'might' be capable of playing 'OK' at AFL level now and running out of depth options.

Cant recall a lucky year or two at this club in this regard, outside of our last 2 GF appearance years. 

Edited April 29, 20178 yr by Rusty Nails

4 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Sorry you were of course referring to JKH OD. My mistake. I don't disagree at all re the standard of his game last week and where he may sit. Where I do differ is the chopping and changing of bringing 'any' player in for only one game then throwing him out the next week, regardless of how he performed In his first entre' (unless he kept tunnel balling or kicking the ball in the oppositions direction or something bizzare like that lol). Also team match ups / venue might mean he is horses for courses one week but not the next. I get that. But otherwise what's the point of bringing a player in if you aren't going to back him and your own initial decision and give him a decent run in order to settle, come up to AFL speed/match fitness and show something? (that the match committee/FD must have seen or known ....things that we don't!??).

If he (or anyone else) continues to under perform in the next match or two (provided it's not one week in isolation in a first up match coming in from Casey) then by all means they should be looked at for someone in better form, if there is that someone. Sadly OD we have just about used our entire stock of players that 'might' be capable of playing 'OK' at AFL level now and running out of depth options.

Cant recall a lucky year or two at this club in this regard, outside of our last 2 GF appearance years. 

Thats the most unfortunate aspect; players gifted games

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

That could be the case, as for those who love stats, his were far superior to JKH last week, yet he is gone. He also doesn't turn the ball over like JKH did.

To me, JKH is one lucky boy this week.

JKH in his first game back in over a year made costly errors BUT by trying to move the ball on quickly and bringing the ball into the corridor aggressively. Stretch who has had strong development and continuity over the last year did not make clear errors but slowed up play and took safe options. 

I think this is about the broader what we are trying to build and where they are both at in their development. Stretch going back to tinker on his game is not a bad thing.

Edited April 29, 20178 yr by big_red_fire_engine

6 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

JKH in his first game back in over a year made costly errors BUT by trying to move the ball on quickly and bringing the ball into the corridor aggressively. Stretch who has had strong development and continuity over the last years did not make clear errors but slowed up play and took safe options. 

I think this is about the broader what we are trying to build and where they are both at in their development. Stretch going back to tinker on his game is not a bad thing.

Good points there brfe.

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Pedo is probably having a lettuce and carrot salad with a portion of brown rice.Thinking about all the big grabs he will take.

When he first arrived it was fish and chips ,a bottle of coke and some ice cream.

Credit to the dietician !!

My son knew Pedo back at his North Melbourne days. Said he loved a couple of quarter pounder and cheese on a regular basis. Times have obviously changed as he is looking very lean ATM.

16 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Sorry you were of course referring to JKH OD. My mistake. I don't disagree at all re the standard of his game last week and where he may sit. Where I do differ is the chopping and changing of bringing 'any' player in for only one game then throwing him out the next week, regardless of how he performed In his first entre' (unless he kept tunnel balling or kicking the ball in the oppositions direction or something bizzare like that lol). Also team match ups / venue might mean he is horses for courses one week but not the next. I get that. But otherwise what's the point of bringing a player in if you aren't going to back him and your own initial decision and give him a decent run in order to settle, come up to AFL speed/match fitness and show something? (that the match committee/FD must have seen or known ....things that we don't!??).

If he (or anyone else) continues to under perform in the next match or two (provided it's not one week in isolation in a first up match coming in from Casey) then by all means they should be looked at for someone in better form, if there is that someone. Sadly OD we have just about used our entire stock of players that 'might' be capable of playing 'OK' at AFL level now and running out of depth options.

Cant recall a lucky year or two at this club in this regard, outside of our last 2 GF appearance years. 

I think we did ok injury wise last year RN. In fact I thought it was a factor in us winning ten games.

Sadly we have the opposite end of the stick this year.

Once there was Annus Horribilus

Now we have Season Interuptus 

22 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Once there was Annus Horribilus

Now we have Season Interuptus 

Very good bb

Patrick Ambrose has been withdrawn from Essendon team. Matty Dea comes in as late replacement.

51 minutes ago, Gipsy Danger said:

Need some help D/Landers,

 

Has as anyone ever taken a baby and a pram to Etihad. I wanna go to the game tomorrow with my wife(bombers supporter(only flaw)) and 5month old (Dees all the way). Anyone got any tips, do's or do nots? Would be so much easier at the G

It's obvious Gypsy! Leave the missus at home to mind the kid. Give her ticket to a Dees supporting mate and get on the booze.

32 minutes ago, jane02 said:

My son knew Pedo back at his North Melbourne days. Said he loved a couple of quarter pounder and cheese on a regular basis. Times have obviously changed as he is looking very lean ATM.

Apparently he's dropped 10kg since last season!

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Apparently he's dropped 10kg since last season!

Is that a good thing BBO I tended to like his size up forward as when he hit a pack....he hit!

4 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

It's obvious Gypsy! Leave the missus at home to mind the kid. Give her ticket to a Dees supporting mate and get on the booze.

Wise words there. Will gypsy see the light I wonder!

17 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

JKH... 9 disposals. 4 fumbles. 3 turnovers. OMG. Retained.

Stretch. 19 possessions. Run and carry. 5 inside 50s. Dropped. 

Goodwin must be concussed.

JKH better perform !!

This is narrow minded view.

Players need more than one game only to find a groove in their role - especially players that have had considerable time away from the firsts due to injury like JKH has had.

Lets hope he fires this week and proves he can still play at this level. He has the same numbers two weeks in a row, he should definitely be in he gun.

35 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Once there was Annus Horribilus

Now we have Season Interuptus 

I usually suffer from at least one of those at some point during the season BB....  ?

12 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Apparently he's dropped 10kg since last season!

And you picked them up.

44 minutes ago, old dee said:

I think we did ok injury wise last year RN. In fact I thought it was a factor in us winning ten games.

Sadly we have the opposite end of the stick this year.

Yes that is true of last year actually. Brain fade. What is this stick you are referring to OD? At this stage it feels more like we are on the receiving end of a nasty red hot poker or a cattle prod!

Ambrose out helps

58 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Patrick Ambrose has been withdrawn from Essendon team. Matty Dea comes in as late replacement.

They took one look at our forward line and decided to drop a tall backman. 

Worried that we will be too fast and mobile for them up forward.

Edited April 29, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

51 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

They took one look at our forward line and decided to drop a tall backman. 

Worried that we will be too fast and mobile for them up forward.

Hopefully too fast, mobile AND finish in front of goal LH

Who kicks goals for us Sunday?

Who plays on Daniher?

Who rucks?

Who wins?

21 minutes ago, Billy said:

Who kicks goals for us Sunday?

Who plays on Daniher?

Who rucks?

Who wins?

All of the above = PEDO

3 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

JKH in his first game back in over a year made costly errors BUT by trying to move the ball on quickly and bringing the ball into the corridor aggressively. Stretch who has had strong development and continuity over the last year did not make clear errors but slowed up play and took safe options. 

I think this is about the broader what we are trying to build and where they are both at in their development. Stretch going back to tinker on his game is not a bad thing.

Except that Casey doesn't play like that.  So not sure he will improve that aspect if his game at Casey. Don't disagree that his play on game has not has been as good  recently.  However it may be to do with poor forward structure and the fear of turning the ball over, that is obviously drummed into the players.

58 minutes ago, Billy said:

Who kicks goals for us Sunday?

Who plays on Daniher?

Who rucks?

Who wins?

IT'S PEDO WEEK MF 

2 hours ago, tappysquads said:

Ambrose out helps

Not sure. Bombers' supporters don't rate Ambrose. Dea hasn't played this year (Ambrose all 5 games) but had a good season last year averaging 17 disposals and 6 marks per game. He did play pretty well against us.

He is listed as 7cm and 6kg lighter than Ambrose. Much of a muchness.