If we look at this logically, Hannan is due for a rest.

Weid is carrying a corked thigh and has been down in his performance of late.

They are the two close to certainty outs.

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Hogan is an automatic inclusion if fit.

Hibberd is an automatic inclusion if fit.

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Pedersen got 29 touches and a goal in a losing side.

JKH provides much needed speed, goal pressure and forward line tackling pressure.

No one else from the VFL should be considered based on form and skills required in the 22.

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B: Jetta - Frost - Hibberd

HB: Hunt - T-Mac - Vince

C: Salem - Viney - Stretch

HF: Trac - Watts - ANB

FF: Garlett - Hogan - Kent

R: Spencer - N.Jones - Tyson

I: Oliver - TBD - TBD - TBD

For the last 3 spots on the bench --> Melksham, Harmes, Bugg, Pedo, JKH

I'd go with Melksham for backline help, Pedo for 2nd ruck, Harmes for fwd/mid rotations

10 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I've seen every second of Richmond this season and haven't liked much of what I've seen. I said North were the worst 9-0 team ever last year, Richmond are a much worse 4-0 team. 

Nankervis has made them their biggest improvement, as their rucks have been shot (semi typo) for years. Spencer is good enough to break even going on his form so far this year. 

Their stars are playing well, the same ones that go missing when the spotlight is on. They don't worry me. 

They're playing as well as they can and it's not impressive. 

If we lose to them I'm going to be furious. 

Do the crime, do the time.  You must've been bad?

It's feeling/sounding like:

In: Hogan, Hibberd, Kennedy-Harris

Out: Weideman (injured), Melksham (omitted), Hannan (omitted)

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I hope he's fit and plays...

We are beyond needing oppo injuries to get a win.

 

He'll play

2 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

Go and read the Richmond bigfooty page

My god they are cocky [censored] after 4 wins

I just assumed it was part of the comedy festival.

24 minutes ago, ProDee said:

It's feeling/sounding like:

In: Hogan, Hibberd, Kennedy-Harris

Out: Weideman (injured), Melksham (omitted), Hannan (omitted)

I could live with that. JKH could probably do with a few weeks back to back in the VFL, but i think they rate him. He was picked in the preseason when we were playing our best 22.

1 minute ago, Forest Demon said:

I could live with that. JKH could probably do with a few weeks back to back in the VFL, but i think they rate him. He was picked in the preseason when we were playing our best 22.

Agree Forest. Think JKH should be breaking the door down with a string of performances at Casey.  Despite Hannan's poor form in the last 2 matches, I still think he has more upside that JKH. Still got to have faith in the selectors.

 

 

5 hours ago, Stevienic23 said:

Personally wouldn't mind seeing petracca go head to head with Martin. Trac is strong enough to go with him, especially in the air one on one and is good enough to hurt him going the other way too. 

Sounds good in theory but I'm afraid Martin would hurt Petracca a lot more going the other way... 

43 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Agree Forest. Think JKH should be breaking the door down with a string of performances at Casey.  Despite Hannan's poor form in the last 2 matches, I still think he has more upside that JKH. Still got to have faith in the selectors.

This  is what Plappy had to say about JKH's game against W'town on the weekend.

"Jay Kennedy-Harris: Jay had 18 disposals, seven marks, four tackles and four inside 50s. It was his second week back after an injury layoff – where he sustained a broken arm in the pre-season. His running and ability to do it at a high level was a real highlight. Jay was very busy and he’ll be pushing for a recall to the AFL side.

It's funny that Watts this morning talked up JKH on SEN and Plapp did it as well. I'd assume he's in the 25 then. 

2 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

This  is what Plappy had to say about JKH's game against W'town on the weekend.

"Jay Kennedy-Harris: Jay had 18 disposals, seven marks, four tackles and four inside 50s. It was his second week back after an injury layoff – where he sustained a broken arm in the pre-season. His running and ability to do it at a high level was a real highlight. Jay was very busy and he’ll be pushing for a recall to the AFL side.

Watched him closely and rate him. Gathered a fair amount of the ball in the first half then faded. Looked nippy but his decision making and disposal were poor.Needs more time at Casey

3 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Jack Watts specifically mentioned JKH on SEN this morning.  Goodwin's pre-season player review of him in Heartbeat was glowing.  Will not surprise to see him in.

Agreed. Can't see Oscar playing as well though. Unless we're trying to use our zone and angles to intercept with our talls, ahead of their mosquito fleet. Just can't see that working. We'd get killed at ground level. There's also not a match up for both Frost and Oscar IMO.

Pedo rucked and got 32 possies. We need that, as well as his ability to play forward or back.

JKH isn't quick, but he demonstrated terrific agility in his first AFL season. I'm not sold on him, but excited that the FD clearly rate him so highly. The professionals clearly see something that I don't.

He moves and kicks like a footballer. I guess my knock on him was his ability to have weapons at AFL level. Maybe it's work rate and an ability to use the ball cleanly? Certainly a trait we lacked last week.

3 hours ago, ProDee said:

It's feeling/sounding like:

In: Hogan, Hibberd, Kennedy-Harris

Out: Weideman (injured), Melksham (omitted), Hannan (omitted)

Happy with the following

Hogan, Pedo, Hibberd and possibly Kennedy IN 

Weeds, Melksham, Harmes and ???  Out!

so given it's a 25 man squad tonight I expect it will probably include lots of permutuations

though I do notice Casey play Saturday evening so all should be revealed

Just now, picket fence said:

Happy with the following

Hogan, Pedo, Hibberd and possibly Kennedy IN 

Weeds, Melksham, Harmes and ???  Out!

what, no oscar, picket?

clarrie must be due a scheduled rest. long season for a young fella

14 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Happy with the following

Hogan, Pedo, Hibberd and possibly Kennedy IN 

Weeds, Melksham, Harmes and ???  Out!

I think Harmes' ball use is a liability, but he runs hard, tackles and finds the ball. I think it's more likely that Hannan is in the gun this week to allow JKH to return.

Melksham will be 'rested' in place of a returning Hibberd, they may well use the excuse that Melksham looked tired last weekend and that a week or two in the VFL to work on a few things is the way to go (ala Gus). 

It's likely Hogan comes in for Weideman, but if Weideman plays, Harmes may end up going at the expense of Jesse.

20 hours ago, brendan said:

I hope we are putting a bit of time into dusty I would be telling the players if your going to try tackling him put your head down and go as low as you can that way if he tries his famous fend off good chance he will get you high and you could draw a free kick, im surprised players don't do this against him he is a bull and almost impossible to tackle 

Dusty is the one player I see time and time again get away with high fend offs.. along with the DangerWoods' and Pendleburys' of the competition.. A protected species.

I would love to see the famous Viney tackle on him though.. Ala Mav Weller. Would be a very satisfying moment.

43 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Pedo rucked and got 32 possies. We need that, as well as his ability to play forward or back.

But you're not going to get that.

You're going to get 13 disposals, 4-5 marks, 4-5 hitouts, and maybe a goal.  

We already know what we get from Pedersen.  i wouldn't select him and doubt Goodwin will.

Btw, Casey played Williamstown.  A stand-alone club.  The standard at VFL level these days is very ordinary.  

From the VFL report on the MFC website its clear that Hibbo and JKH will come in

also spoke glowingly of JT, Oscar and Pedo but didnt mention 'AFL side return'

On afl360 ladt night they said Harmes is averaging .5 tackles per game, I would have guessed higher than that. 

Mentioned others but I would have guessed theirs. 

10 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

On afl360 ladt night they said Harmes is averaging .5 tackles per game, I would have guessed higher than that. 

Mentioned others but I would have guessed theirs. 

You're referring to Maclure's comments on our half forward tackle numbers. I don't recall him mentioning Harmes, particularly as Harmes is averaging 3.3 tackles per game.

FOR ME:

B: Jetta - Frost - Hibberd

HB: Hunt - T-Mac - Vince

C: Salem - Viney - Stretch

HF: Trac - Watts - ANB

FF: Garlett - Hogan - Kent

R: Spencer - N.Jones - Oliver

I: Tyson - Trengove - Bugg - Harmes

 

OUT: Weideman, Hannan, Melksham

IN: Hogan, Trengove, Hibberd

 

Weideman, Hannan, and Melksham need to be dropped after their last match, and for some previous matches.

Hogan is an automatic in and upgrade on Weideman. Hibberd is ready for a run in the firsts. As for Trengove I don't care what negative connotations others have with him, he played an excellent game against Williamstown (arguably BOG) and for that, he's earnt his spot.

If the club is concerned about the up-and-coming Richmond mosquito fleet I won't be surprised if they keep Melksham in. If they opt. to go taller and provide a second hit out (other than Watts) I won't be surprised to see Pedersen in there.

13 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

On afl360 ladt night they said Harmes is averaging .5 tackles per game, I would have guessed higher than that. 

Mentioned others but I would have guessed theirs. 

In fact, looking at these numbers again, I don't know where Maclure is getting any of his figures from.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-melbourne-demons--james-harmes