Jack Viney

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,293]

Considering we had a very short turnaround and he also copped a knock against the Tiges, Jack played his best game for the year yesterday.

Surprisingly, he looked to have found a bit of pace which he had lost for the past month. Was instrumental in the 3rd quarter, a good game by the skipper.

Would be massive for us if he can find his 2016 form!

[Lord Travis 10,516]

After a poor start to the year he played his best game of 2017 yesterday. His intensity was better, his pace appeared to have returned through the middle of the match as well. Importantly when the game was in the balance he stood up as a leader, won some hard ball to setup a goal, followed by a few clearances after that. If he can do that consistently again like last year, it'll be a big bonus for us. We need him playing with intensity and standing up when games are there to be won. 

[What 18,810]

He thankfully seemed to have his burst speed back, which makes you wonder if he was carrying an injury the first 5 rounds.

[Skuit 10,002]

Still down a fair way in TOG -  and that's not counting his recent stints in the forward-line. He showed a bit at the start of last week as well but can't sustain it. I remain convinced he's carrying something or still recovering. And that he has been hampered far more than what's been let on.

[Demon Disciple 11,798]

4 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Still down a fair way in TOG -  and that's not counting his recent stints in the forward-line. He showed a bit at the start of last week as well but can't sustain it. I remain convinced he's carrying something or still recovering. And that he has been hampered far more than what's been let on.

Agree Skuit. If it was a form thing, he would still be crashing into packs regardless.

It's not that he's hesitant, more not capable at the moment. It is clearly a management thing, otherwise he'd be put on ice for a week or two.

[Ted Lasso 18,896]

Showed signs on the weekend 

[jnrmac 19,928]

No surprise that our turnraound in the 3rd quarter came with a big contribution from Viney...

[beelzebub 23,239]

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

No surprise that our turnraound in the 3rd quarter came with a big contribution from Viney...

Not the actual catalyst for mine, but he certainly upped our effect.

Vince and Lewis into the guts was to me the instigation of change.

[3Dee 1,153]

51 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Not the actual catalyst for mine, but he certainly upped our effect.

Vince and Lewis into the guts was to me the instigation of change.

+ Salem's touch

[leave it to deever 17,498]

On 4/15/2017 at 5:09 PM, Abe said:

Yup it was Goodwin trying to make his mark. 

We need jack to be an elite player, we have Jones and Lewis to lead the club 

And now J Watts in spades

[pineapple dee 2,892]

On 01/05/2017 at 4:58 PM, Petraccattack said:

He thankfully seemed to have his burst speed back, which makes you wonder if he was carrying an injury the first 5 rounds.

Well I guess that's true to a degree but I hope this analysis isn't based on him running off Jab Watson, which ,frankly , I could have done too last Sunday.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Rewatching the broadcast... Just before the bounce to start the second half I saw him doing a sort of hulahoop action loosening up the hip area. Hadn't seen it before, so I was very interested to see how he played the game out. The way he moved and the power he pushed through the area with... is it possible he played the first 5 games underdone, but structurally sound... And just hadn't gained confidence in the area post surgery? We know he'd play even with an arm and a leg lopped off. I'm hoping that was the case, and provides some explanation for his not having taken a game by the scruff of the neck. If you factor in him, and Oliver's startling rise... Then we really will be every chance of winning any game against teams not named Crows, dogs or Giants. 

[DeeSpencer 24,886]

I think it helped that Essendon's midfield were way down on intensity but I was really impressed with his decision making. He wasn't rushing and was kicking to safer and wider options.

Too much has been made about an apparent lack of pace or impact at the contest. I think he's doing his job there, even if not as prolific. Just the bad decisions and skill errors have hurt his game and with that area vastly improved his overall performance seemed much more impressive.

[Adam The God 29,631]

26 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think it helped that Essendon's midfield were way down on intensity but I was really impressed with his decision making. He wasn't rushing and was kicking to safer and wider options.

Too much has been made about an apparent lack of pace or impact at the contest. I think he's doing his job there, even if not as prolific. Just the bad decisions and skill errors have hurt his game and with that area vastly improved his overall performance seemed much more impressive.

My biggest knock on Jack in the first 5 games of 2017 has been his lack of explosiveness and this has impacted on his decision-making, because he's tried to play hero footy to get himself out of situations that his explosiveness would normally enable him to. If he's got it back, we're in for some exciting times with he, Oliver, Petracca and Tyson hitting some form together this year.

[Akum 2,660]

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think it helped that Essendon's midfield were way down on intensity but I was really impressed with his decision making. He wasn't rushing and was kicking to safer and wider options.

Too much has been made about an apparent lack of pace or impact at the contest. I think he's doing his job there, even if not as prolific. Just the bad decisions and skill errors have hurt his game and with that area vastly improved his overall performance seemed much more impressive.

He wasn't just bombing it into the clouds this week, he was kicking low & hard especially into the forward line.

I'm not a big Viney fan but he was very good after half time.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

On 24/04/2017 at 10:32 PM, picket fence said:

Not good enough but what do you expect, a very limited footballer who was made captain without really deserving it and still tries to break every tackle under the sun. Needs to be dropped!

 

On 24/04/2017 at 10:57 PM, picket fence said:

A coaching dilemma which is entirely Goodwins making! You reap what you sow!

The thing that troubles me most about these posts is that they read like the Twitter ravings of President Trump. Same structure. Same use of punctuation for emphasis. Same use of short, pithy phrases at the end of the post. It's not possible, is it, that the President of the free world is actually a closet Melbourne supporter?

Edited May 2, 2017 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[Demons11 6,742]

5 hours ago, Akum said:

He wasn't just bombing it into the clouds this week, he was kicking low & hard especially into the forward line.

I'm not a big Viney fan but he was very good after half time.

Not a fan, what does a bloke have to do? I know he has a slow start to the season but he has given everything over the last few years 

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I think while Jack is down on form (with a decent return on Sunday), it is reassuring to see he is giving voice leadership and niggling the opposition.

Did anyone see him giving it to Goddard in the 3rd when he let the ball go out and didn't bother to compete? 

[Kumamoto_Ken 1,531]

2 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I think while Jack is down on form (with a decent return on Sunday), it is reassuring to see he is giving voice leadership and niggling the opposition.

Did anyone see him giving it to Goddard in the 3rd when he let the ball go out and didn't bother to compete? 

Even took his mouthguard out to ensure Goddard heard every word of it.

[Pates 9,625]

Sunday was far and away Jack's best game for the year. His form hasn't been good prior to that, being caught trying to bust through packs, and some pretty average kicking. Sunday was a welcome return to form, but we start again this weekend. 

[pineapple dee 2,892]

8 hours ago, Kumamoto_Ken said:

Even took his mouthguard out to ensure Goddard heard every word of it.

 

11 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I think while Jack is down on form (with a decent return on Sunday), it is reassuring to see he is giving voice leadership and niggling the opposition.

Did anyone see him giving it to Goddard in the 3rd when he let the ball go out and didn't bother to compete? 

Goddard didn't want to take possession of that ball for three reasons. Firstly he wanted a cheap DOOB free kick. Secondly, Viney was right on his ginger. Thirdly he didn't fancy being clobbered by Viney. ( as you wouldn't) 

[leave it to deever 17,498]

On 5/3/2017 at 3:26 PM, Pates said:

Sunday was far and away Jack's best game for the year. His form hasn't been good prior to that, being caught trying to bust through packs, and some pretty average kicking. Sunday was a welcome return to form, but we start again this weekend. 

It made a huge difference. Hope it continues. Will need his best this weekend.

[monoccular 17,345]

On 03/05/2017 at 3:56 AM, Akum said:

He wasn't just bombing it into the clouds this week, he was kicking low & hard especially into the forward line.

I'm not a big Viney fan but he was very good after half time.

Not bombing it into the clouds - maybe because the roof was on, and he couldn't see them.

On 03/05/2017 at 9:30 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

The thing that troubles me most about these posts is that they read like the Twitter ravings of President Trump. Same structure. Same use of punctuation for emphasis. Same use of short, pithy phrases at the end of the post. It's not possible, is it, that the President of the free world is actually a closet Melbourne supporter?

I will make Melbourne strong again, real strong...and big, and strong.  And build a wall, a big big wall, big and strong, around the MCG....and make Eddie pay for it. 

On 03/05/2017 at 9:13 PM, pineapple dee said:

 

Goddard didn't want to take possession of that ball for three reasons. Firstly he wanted a cheap DOOB free kick. Secondly, Viney was right on his ginger. Thirdly he didn't fancy being clobbered by Viney. ( as you wouldn't) 

I saw that and thought what an absolute softy.  Pathetic.  And one very good reason not to even consider a last touch rule.  

Edited May 5, 2017 by monoccular

[binman 42,113]

On 2017-5-3 at 9:46 AM, Colin B. Flaubert said:

 

Did anyone see him giving it to Goddard in the 3rd when he let the ball go out and didn't bother to compete? 

Live i thought how soft it was and would have been furious if it was paid deliberate. I saw viney lettint goddard know about but not properly until i watched the replay. Loved it. Goddard shits me, always has. He looks slow these days. Good on jack

[Ted Lasso 18,896]

27 minutes ago, binman said:

Live i thought how soft it was and would have been furious if it was paid deliberate. I saw viney lettint goddard know about but not properly until i watched the replay. Loved it. Goddard shits me, always has. He looks slow these days. Good on jack

This is what I find confusing about the rule, if the rule is about intent then you couldn't argue goddards intent was to keep the ball in, he had plenty of time to get the ball and kick it and didn't want to get the hit from Viney