POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 2

[Demonland 73,266]

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT WITH GRAVY? by George on The Outer

With the Demons making an absolute meal of the opportunities achieved through their sheer dominance around the ground against Carlton, it was as if the fans being asked if they would like what was being served up to them with gravy.

The fortunate thing from a club perspective was that in the end, it wasn’t gravy that came with the meal, but rather the icing on the cake that saved the day and finally saw Melbourne run out the eventual victors on the day. In this instance the icing was provided by the likes of Jeff Garlett, Christian Salem and Jack Watts with a handsome contribution from Nev Jetta.

In the early going it was all Melbourne. By halfway through the second quarter, the Demons led by four goals. At that stage, they had five players with more possessions than the best performing Carlton player and yet, at the main break, the lead had been pared back a meagre 10 points.  

The fans had seen this before. This was a Melbourne game that had been marked down as a certain four premiership points but suddenly they found themselves in an arm-wrestle by giving the opposition plenty of opportunities to recover as a result of their over use of the football and sloppy turnovers. 

Things got worse in the third quarter as the Demons continued to produce more of the same. The battle of the rucks between Max Gawn and Matt Kruezer was relentless and there seemed to be no curbing Bryce Gibbs and Patrick Cripps while, despite numerous clearances, the Melbourne mids were simply being trounced. Jack Viney was strangely quiet again this week, Dom Tyson was getting plenty of the ball around the ground but little in the middle, and Clayton Oliver also got lots of touches but he was too dependent upon handball when kicking was the order of the day.

In the latter stages of the third quarter, the Demons had fluffed around with the football so much and had shown such a lack of intensity and discipline that the unthinkable happened. They had allowed the Blues to hit the lead and take it out to a nine point margin before Jeff Garlett decided that enough was enough when he put the team's first major for the term on the board at the 21 minute mark. This brought the margin back to only three points at the final change with hope that the worst was now behind the team.

It wasn’t to be entirely because despite the Demons kicking the first two goals of the final stanza to take a nine point lead, the Blues replied to restore the margin back to within a goal. With the minutes ticking by, Garlett came off the bench and as he did in the third, he made something out of nothing in the middle to start a chain of possessions that left the fans with their hearts in their mouths. The team still managed to stuff around in front of goal as better options were looked for instead of simply putting the ball to boot and through the majors.  Tyson snapped a goal and Sam Weideman chipped in with his second but Casboult replied. It was Jeff who followed up with a spectacular run down from behind on Docherty and he converted from the resultant free to ice the game.  

A final snap from Nathan Jones in the dying minute saw the Demons record a 22 point win. More hoodoos were put to bed  as a result. The first win in round two since 2005 and only the second against the Blues in that space of time. They had only beaten Carlton once in the past ten meetings. 

Special mention must go to Christian Salem who time and time again delivered the ball accurately and faultlessly with his 31 touches.  Both he and Tom McDonald held back multiple attacks and launched many forward thrusts. They genuinely kept the team in the game at critical times, when Carlton threatened to do exactly as they did in round 21 last year.  

Oliver put forward another 35 touch performance in only his 15th game, while Tyson racked up 32 of his own after return from injury.  He will be better for the run, for despite his 145 Dream Team points tally, his delivery at critical times was below his usual standard. 

With the likely return of Dean Kent and Bernie Vince next week, Mitch Hannan and Alex Neal-Bullen will probably find themselves Casey bound as they were found wanting against an opposition that is not highly regarded. They will get another chance as the season progresses, but the message is clear that players will genuinely have to earn their spot in this side in 2017.  

No longer is senior selection assured week after week, because the gravy-train has now left the station. 

Melbourne 3.2.20 6.4.40 7.5.47 13.8.86

Carlton 2.2.14 4.6.30 7.8.50 9.10.64

Goals 

Melbourne Garlett 3 Jones Watts Weideman 2 Gawn Petracca Salem Tyson

Carlton Wright 3 Armfield Casboult E Curnow Murphy Petrevski-Seton Pickett

Best

Melbourne Salem Tyson Oliver Watts Garlett Jones Harmes

Carlton Wright Murphy Cripps Docherty Gibbs Curnow

Changes

Melbourne Nil

Carlton Nil

Injuries 

Melbourne Brayshaw (cut eye)

Carlton Silvagni (corked thigh and ankle) Thomas (right knee)

Reports

Melbourne Nil

Carlton Nil

Umpires Dalgleish, Meredith, Williamson

Official Crowd 46,727 at the MCG

[Nasher 33,617]

The third quarter was the only time I genuinely thought there was a chance we'd lose.  The rest of the time we dominated the ball, just used it poorly, especially with that last kick in to 50.  

Not the confidence boosting drubbing I was hoping for, but just a relief to win in the end.  Probably a bit of a reality check of where we are at, without having to pay the ultimate price of a loss.

On TV at the beginning of the last quarter, they said Goodwin had abandoned the 2 extras back and lined up in traditional formation.  Another win for the coach?

[Chook 15,022]

Petracca
Garlett
Hannan
Neil-Bullen
Watts
Hogan
Harmes
Jones
Tyson
Wiederman

These players got us the goals we needed in the last quarter.

 

T. McDonald
Jetta

These players saved us the goals we could not concede.

 

Oliver

This guy is just a gun.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Chook

[DemonOX 8,822]

Great win considering they are our bogey team and we composed ourselves after a bad third quarter. 

Well done boys. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by DemonOX

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Lovely crisp autumn day in Melbourne.

[Nasher 33,617]

Also, Maxy hexed Clarrie with his 360 interview.  Promised another 35 possession game - finished the game with 34.

[Skuit 10,031]

Garlett kicked 3 goals. Probably don't need to mention that.

[Gorgoroth 13,136]

Worst. Win. Ever.

[DemonOX 8,822]

Garlett was excellent. 

His presure particularly in the last was terrific. 

I would have Cripps in our team anyday. 

[McQueen 17,867]

[Nasher 33,617]

1 minute ago, Gorgoroth said:

Worst. Win. Ever.

You obviously missed the Brisbane win last year.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Good teams find a way to win when they're playing badly, a lot of players off today but we found a way. 

Hogan seemed to be playing sore 

[Clayton van Oliver 1,826]

I love watching Jordan Lewis speak after matches. "One of those games (when) you just have to find a way to win". That mentality exists at Melbourne now. F*#% yea!

[jane02 3,777]

2 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Worst. Win. Ever.

I will take an ugly win every day of the week. 

[olisik 4,060]

Shocking game by Viney and Brayshaw.

Time to get Trenners in

[Skuit 10,031]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

You obviously missed the Brisbane win last year.

And the year before that.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

A win is a win is a win. and we will be fourth on the ladder after the weekend. I would happily taken that two weeks ago.

[P-man 13,366]

Relief.

Midfield decidedly ordinary for most of the day. Overuse of the ball was ridiculous at stages. But we ground it out which is promising, albeit with Docherty doing us a huge favour at the end.

Salem and Jeffy were terrific. Jetta and T Mac stood up at important moments.

Bank the 4 points. Raise a smile at being 2-0. Look towards a better performance next week. 

.

[mattjm 151]

we lacked drive off half back. be good to get hibberd and vince back in

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,522]

Credit to Carlton and Bolton.

We won ugly but we kicked away when we should have. Had some very good contributors along the way, namely: Clarry, Salem, Watts, Jeffy, Harmes.

 

A win's a win! 2 - 0!!

[pinkshark 950]

great win.  impressive how we won.  Watts was coolest when it was hottest.  player.

oliver is amazing.  

jones was jones. again.

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

I think some post match perspective should be taken - even though I was sweating buckets. 

1) Expectations Vs Apathy - it's so good that we have expectations now as supporters- let's keep em realistic - we don't need to be a juggernaut.

2a) A young team, will eff up plenty along the way - very few polished players (Lewis, Salem no one else)

2b) This effects decision making, and fatigue - again we have a young young team.

3) This is a process - refining game style, adjusting in game - won't always hit a supporters urgency. 

4) Carlton match up very very well - and even though Kreuzers body of work is bloody average - jeez he does a good job v Gawn.

5) Let's not buy into the media's hype of our stars in the making - Clive Waterhouse was one also (here's looking at you Trac  )

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Danelska

[dee-tox 4,835]

Bolton found a way to clog us up. Good coaching. Cripps, Murphy, Gibbs, etc were better than our midfield.

Jeffy was brilliant. Salem had a breakout game. Jetta is in great form. Hogan didn't look right. Watts lifted in the last

Brayshaw, ANB, Hannan, Lewis were decidedly ordinary.

[Cards13 9,117]

Lewis and Hoges both get a week?

We all wanted a 10 goal walk in the park, the wonderful thing about professional sport is you play other professionals who can, in the main, play have good coaches. We won the hard way, time to rest up get back in the paddock to keep working on skills and focus on the Cats.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,839]

Was a very 2016 performance. This time, though, we cash 4 points in rather than 0.

Oliver has 6 Brownlow votes and will win one as early as 2018.

Garlett probably the match winner in the end. What a tackle. Thank you Mick.

EDIT: Forgot to mention Harmes. Not his biggest fan but his disposal was clean today and ability to Dustin Martin his way out of tackles incredible for his size. He stays.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Sylvia Saint