3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

How many 100 pt losses this year? How many 10 goal losses.

It has improved. Maybe not as much as we would like, but to say Roos has failed at reducing the gap is just incorrect

He hasn't reduced the gap between our best and worst, but he has made our best better and our worst not-so-bad. Beat Hawthorn, lose to Carlton is about as big a margin as lose by 30 points, lose by 100 points.

15 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I agree with this.  Normally I don't, but the Neal-Bullen decision still baffles me.  We have Ben Kennedy, a bloke who knows how to play forward, languishing in the reserves and they ignore him for a pure mid.  Bad decision and we paid for it, as Nibbler had little to no influence on the game.

Weideman had no influence either, and while Michie had a better second half, he isn't a damaging player.  

Not much we can do about it but moan now, I guess.

Playing off the half back flank what damage were you expecting?. Particularly today when not only did the midfield fail dismally they did not get back to help when the blues mids were racing forward all day. Michie has become the Jack Watts of this site and is everyone's whipping boy. He had 20 disposals at 90%. He hit up Hogan twice but he missed both. Michie did not set the world on fire from the HBF but tell me what damage did Brayshaw, Viney, Oliver, Stretch Watts inflict today? No he wont be at Melbourne next year but today he was far from our worst.

2 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Just said on the radio Goodwin addressed the players after the game, Roos didn't attend.

Well, very interesting. Not sure what to make of that.

Can we assume Goodwin might actually coach in the box next week?

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

Maybe because our structure was rubbish today?

I didn't see you bring it up during the previous fortnight.  Why not bring it up when we get it right as well?

That's right, it's not your go.

This is a real kick in the guts. 

Well done MFC u have yet again dissapointed us supporters. 

After I told my kids we lost their response was "what a suprise". 

I don't know how the expect to increase membership when they continually put in these performances. 

3 changes was bad too. Pedersen and Harmes for Weideman and Michie was wrong wrong wrong

Putrid attitude. Incompetent display. Soft effort.

Not happy Jan.

Absolutely smashed in clearances and tackles. Tells the whole story of our lack of effort and guts today.

Everything on the line, and our leadership, from the top down, failed.

 

20 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Selection was abysmal again.

All three 'ins' were the wrong decision.

Easy to say when the team was terrible

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You must have missed the bit where i also put my hand up and ate fair chunk of humble pie. 

We all say silly things in the Heat of moment  but as we speak Simon Goodwin is the great unkown. Paul Roos on his day is one of the best coaches going around.

Yes, the six days we are not playing.

Absolutely shattered.

2 minutes ago, Samael said:

Playing off the half back flank what damage were you expecting?. Particularly today when not only did the midfield fail dismally they did not get back to help when the blues mids were racing forward all day. Michie has become the Jack Watts of this site and is everyone's whipping boy. He had 20 disposals at 90%. He hit up Hogan twice but he missed both. Michie did not set the world on fire from the HBF but tell me what damage did Brayshaw, Viney, Oliver, Stretch Watts inflict today? No he wont be at Melbourne next year but today he was far from our worst.

Never said you were our worst today, Viv.  Just that you're not a particularly damaging player.   I did say you had a better second half.

Apologies for hurting your feelings.

Went to the game today and left before 3/4 time, we were terrible today and always will be against clubs that have good outside runners, Saints, Essendon and Blues. We were gone at about 20 minutes in to the game and you could see we had no answer to their pace, run and kicking, we were blazing away and they kicked it to a team mate.

Dreadful effort and there are some who will gone next year and a couple of HBF's won't help us against running sides, we need at leat two players who have some outside run and will continue to struggle until we get them.

Gibbs and Cripps killed us today and our midfield was innocuous, I don't care how many ineffective possessions our mids got, the Blues midfield had quality use of the ball all day. Our forward line was missing, I don't know how many times we bombed it in to the forward line to a lone opposition player. Not sure if the players were confused by our jumpers today but they continually kicked it to one of theirs or too a contest where they had the advantage.

They looked beaten from the opening bounce. Our midfield is in dire need of some quality, dire need.

 

1 minute ago, SaberFang said:

Well, very interesting. Not sure what to make of that.

Can we assume Goodwin might actually coach in the box next week?

Whatever it means, it's about the future: the pre-season and then the season ahead. It shifts the responsibilities to the players and the new coach, or at the very least, forces the players and new coach take responsibility.

I'm usually the first to blame selection, even started a thread about it, but if you're blaming Michie, ANB and Weed for the loss today you are clueless.

We were let down by our leadership.

 

Stop playing dry weather football on wet days. Flicking it around killed us. We need to play a different style with a greasy ball. 

Time to talk about delistings. 

I posted on the game day thread (so apologies for those who read through that) but I suspect the club so this coming. 3 changes to a winning team when we hadn't made changes all year? I can only deduce training seemed flat and the boys felt tired. That's how it looked.

Roosy said at 3/4 time we've had no energy all day. Young blokes like Oliver, Brayshaw and co got smashed early and just seemed off the pace all day. They need more miles in their legs.

Dissapointing, but we really had a shocker and they played a blinder early and that was that really. I think we tried hard after quarter time but it just never clicked and came together.

My depressed stroll home is still twice as fast as Jessie Slooowgans defensive running

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I didn't see you bring it up during the previous fortnight.  Why not bring it up when we get it right as well?

That's right, it's not your go.

See post 38.

6 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

I doubt we're going to see Viv Michie wear the red and blue again. 

Definitely. But tell me what was so poor about his game as opposed to Brayshaw, Oliver, Hunt, Bugg, Watts, Stretch, Kent? He had SFA in turnovers, Petracca had 1 more disposal out of the middle and went at 48% DE. Viv got 20 possessions at 90% beaten only by Watts at 92% from 14. To read comments on this site you would think he lost the game on his own.

26 minutes ago, brendan said:

Worse loss than the essendon 1 in my opinion, have something to play for and go to water, still a mentally weak club I don't think Roos wanted to win with the selections they made, Weideman for pedo was a terrible decision, if they come out and beat geelong I will be livid 

I disagree Brendan one should always err on the side of common sense and select a wringing wet 1 gamer over an experienced utility who was slowly hitting some decent form and played significant roles in earlier wins after a long stint out of the game. Especially when a chance to play finals is on the line!

 

For the future, can posters stop talking about players "banging the door down" at VFL level and understand the difference to AFL footy ?

So next time a Michie, Neal-Bullen or Grimes is racking up 40+ disposals at the lower level  can you contain your enthusiasm, remember this game and put some perspective on VFL performances ?

Everyone just chill. Up to last week no one was talking finals. We get a sniff and we all get excited. It wasn't meant to be. Ill take 10 wins maybe 11

Looked ominous all day but as soon as Watts missed that shot he normally would could kick with his eyes shut, I knew right then we wouldn't win. 

A little tip for 2017 and beyond. If we a) are wearing white jumpers and b) playing a [censored] side at the MCG then don't expect to win.

 

 

Are we the most mentally fragile club in the league? We need to learn to stamp down our authority and head into games where we are expected to win and actually come out firing. 

It will obviously come in time and younger players will learn to deal with the pressure. But this is inexcusable.