On 25/07/2016 at 07:11, Satyriconhome said:

In hindsight was that? Suggest you go back and look at some of the posts that were here, hypocrisy is raising it's head again in some of the posts re Cook

Hindsight which part? I remember listening to the draft on SEN and I literally felt sick when his name was called out, partly because we missed out on Lynch by 1 pick and wanted Darling when we did. No hindsight there, don't try to tell me what I felt.

The phantom drafts? no hindsight there, have a look at them, all rated Cook 2nd round or lower. It was a ridiculous pick by Prenderghast.

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:13, TheoX said:

Hindsight which part? I remember listening to the draft on SEN and I literally felt sick when his name was called out, partly because we missed out on Lynch by 1 pick and wanted Darling when we did. No hindsight there, don't try to tell me what I felt.

The phantom drafts? no hindsight there, have a look at them, all rated Cook 2nd round or lower. It was a ridiculous pick by Prenderghast.

I have found posts were posters on here were relieved when Darling wasn't picked, and were pleased with Cook, you want me to drag them out?

Hindsight is one of the most powerful tools on here

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:17, Satyriconhome said:

I have found posts were posters on here were relieved when Darling wasn't picked, and were pleased with Cook, you want me to drag them out?

Hindsight is one of the most powerful tools on here

Uh uh, what has that got to do with my original post? I told you what I though at the time, what do the opinions of others in 2010 have to do with that? If I posted about that draft I guarantee it would say I wanted Lynch or Darling if he wasn't available.

I also wanted us to draft Toumpas over Wines. No hindsight there either.

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:17, Satyriconhome said:

I have found posts were posters on here were relieved when Darling wasn't picked, and were pleased with Cook, you want me to drag them out?

Hindsight is one of the most powerful tools on here

Don't worry, it's going to happen again with Weeds so no need to dig through the archives. 

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:26, olisik said:

Don't worry, it's going to happen again with Weeds so no need to dig through the archives. 

Yes I know, why I try not to offer outlandish opinions on players abilities or lack thereof, they come back to haunt either way

 

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:26, olisik said:

Don't worry, it's going to happen again with Weeds so no need to dig through the archives. 

B+

C'mon Olisik, try harder.

  On 25/07/2016 at 09:26, olisik said:

Don't worry, it's going to happen again with Weeds so no need to dig through the archives. 

Which you have already started with the blatant rubbish talk.

Funny how you have gone quite on thw Nathan Jones captain talk after the weekend.

Has anything been done about the Clarrie-chomping incident? Apology perhaps? Or are Sandy happy to continue with a biter on their team?

 

  On 25/07/2016 at 10:01, dazzledavey36 said:

Which you have already started with the blatant rubbish talk.

Funny how you have gone quite on thw Nathan Jones captain talk after the weekend.

i went quiet as the thread was locked. Still a worthy discussion imo, he went quiet late in the game when it was on the line again.

 

I'm looking forward to The Weed playing next year and I have no doubt we made the right decision.

I was a Lynch/Darling and Wines man but that's history now, Weed is the future.

 

  On 25/07/2016 at 07:09, willmoy said:

Anyone know which draft we picked Weideman up in and when, please? Was it after 31st October 2015? 

 

Is that a serious question?

Yes, it was.

  On 24/07/2016 at 21:03, CBDees said:

Do you really think that picking up TMac with our fourth pick at pick 53 was a display of strategic insight? To me it was a random bit of luck considering he had just picked up (the highly-rated?) Troy Davis at pick 50, three selections earlier!

I'm not sure you can have it both ways.  You can't say he was awful when he missed and lucky when he picked well.  We also got Howe in that draft and despite the obvious resentment towards him he has turned into a good quality AFL footballer for a mid 30's pick.  And Scully is now a really good footballer but at pick 1 you'd expect that.

Prendergast was too smart by half and butchered 5 early picks - Strauss, Blease, Cook, Tapscott and Gysberts.  But he was involved in Jetta, Gawn, Viney, Watts and McDonald and whilst that is a very poor return for the opportunities he had getting Jetta, Gawn and McDonald with late picks is invaluable to us now (Viney was always coming an Watts at no.1 was a gimme).  It also must be said that the players he picked received the worst development in the AFL but I accept his record is poor.  Having said that I still think Gysberts in a good environment could have been very good.  He had the skills and just needed someone to guide him through the mental part of the game.  But that's another discussion - as is this one probably!

  On 26/07/2016 at 03:04, Vogon Poetry said:

Prendergast was too smart by half and butchered 5 early picks - Strauss, Blease, Cook, Tapscott and Gysberts.  

Agree.  Prendergast was par on early and late picks (great teams are better than this of course - hopefully Taylor is).  Prendergast's big failure was these picks in the 10-20 range.  0% hit rate is an absolute shocker - we should have 3 or 4 very good players in their mid 20s from these picks and that would be very handy right now.

  On 26/07/2016 at 03:19, Fifty-5 said:

Agree.  Prendergast was par on early and late picks (great teams are better than this of course - hopefully Taylor is).  Prendergast's big failure was these picks in the 10-20 range.  0% hit rate is an absolute shocker - we should have 3 or 4 very good players in their mid 20s from these picks and that would be very handy right now.

Which are the hardest ones and most important ones to get right though, surely.  Those picks are where recruiters really earn their coin I would have thought.

I haven't seen enough of Weideman to know if he'll make a quality key forward, or not, but I do know that he needs 8-10 kgs before anyone can accurately predict.

As for Prendergast ?  Please.  An utter disaster.  The fact that he got a few selections right means nothing.  So could I and many of you.  When you're employed full time and travel the country watching kids play year after year after year it's not hard to get a few right.  

Maybe I should bow down in gratitude that he didn't stuff up every single one.

Michie with 1 lousy tackle again.

You're killin me Viv.

 

 

  On 25/07/2016 at 07:09, willmoy said:

Anyone know which draft we picked Weideman up in and when, please? Was it after 31st October 2015? 

Yes it was, thanks willmoy! Now to find out which posters are trying to poach last year's Draft Picks

  On 26/07/2016 at 03:40, ProDee said:

I haven't seen enough of Weideman to know if he'll make a quality key forward, or not, but I do know that he needs 8-10 kgs before anyone can accurately predict.

He's a great mark and a nice kick and he attacks the contest - I'm very bullish, if he doesn't make it forward, he'll make it back.  I really like Hulett too, he's good at ground level.

  On 26/07/2016 at 04:13, Fifty-5 said:

He's a great mark and a nice kick and he attacks the contest - I'm very bullish, if he doesn't make it forward, he'll make it back.  I really like Hulett too, he's good at ground level.

Fifty-5, do you know whether he played any junior footy as a backman? 

Was thinking that either he or Hulett could be trialed as a CHB to give us another option.

  On 26/07/2016 at 04:34, SPC said:

Fifty-5, do you know whether he played any junior footy as a backman? 

Was thinking that either he or Hulett could be trialed as a CHB to give us another option.

No I don't know, I don't follow the TAC or U18 champs.  But I think that is definitely a future option.

  On 26/07/2016 at 04:34, SPC said:

Fifty-5, do you know whether he played any junior footy as a backman? 

Was thinking that either he or Hulett could be trialed as a CHB to give us another option.

I think the aim is to play Weed at FF and Hogan at CHF. Hulett could play forward or back, if he keeps developing. Looks a future player.

  On 26/07/2016 at 04:34, SPC said:

Fifty-5, do you know whether he played any junior footy as a backman? 

Was thinking that either he or Hulett could be trialed as a CHB to give us another option.

A club recruiter friend of mine had him at no 2 on his personal ratings. He said he could be anything can play FF/CHF also thinks he would make a terrific CHB. 

  On 26/07/2016 at 03:40, ProDee said:

I haven't seen enough of Weideman to know if he'll make a quality key forward, or not, but I do know that he needs 8-10 kgs before anyone can accurately predict.

As for Prendergast ?  Please.  An utter disaster.  The fact that he got a few selections right means nothing.  So could I and many of you.  When you're employed full time and travel the country watching kids play year after year after year it's not hard to get a few right.  

Maybe I should bow down in gratitude that he didn't stuff up every single one.

In terms of disasters at the MFC, Prendergast rates above Neeld and Schwab.

  On 26/07/2016 at 06:58, Stretch Johnson said:

In terms of disasters at the MFC, Prendergast rates above Neeld and Schwab.

Sorry 'Stretch', but the buck stops at the top.

CS takes the prize and shares it with the board who appointed and reappointed him.

  On 26/07/2016 at 03:48, P-man said:

Michie with 1 lousy tackle again.

You're killin me Viv.

 

 

You're killin' me Smalls!