Just now, Undeeterred said:

Are you seriously suggesting that ANB and Bugg for Vince and another (say Kennedy) would have stopped that absolute garbage from the entire rest of the team?

Get a grip.

Mate, did you even read what I wrote? It's not about the players individually, it's about the overall effect on the team. Vince has been rubbish today as has Harmes. For THIS game at THIS ground against THIS opposition, fresh legs and run was vital, but yet again we were too gutless at selection and will pay the price.

 

Won the inside 50s that quarter as well. I found on a few occasions the structure wasn't right up front and we had few less than we needed. Need to start running again

We become complacent when we are in front. Can't play four quarters of football. Typical Melbourne. Haven't changed much.

We are winning everything bar tackles and score. That indicates we are overusing the ball and making silly errors, and that they are getting out and running free. Tidy up the disposal and increase pressure on them and we should win. Not sure I can see it happening unfortunately. 

Come on Dees.

4 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

yeahh..........no.

Armitage? That's as ridiculous as suggesting their best is six goals better than our best. 

Except they're just about to prove it for the second time, while only starting in the second quarter. 

Just now, demon4eva said:

We become complacent when we are in front. Can't play four quarters of football. Typical Melbourne. Haven't changed much.

The problem was, we were in front but not actually playing all that well, we just took our chances better  than they but the run of play was pretty even.

Once they started taking their chances they got on top.

6 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Wasted quarter. I suspect turnaround in 3rd to be near equal at the last change then its anybody's

What leads you to expect that, ww?

Certainly not history 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Mate, did you even read what I wrote? It's not about the players individually, it's about the overall effect on the team. Vince has been rubbish today as has Harmes. For THIS game at THIS ground against THIS opposition, fresh legs and run was vital, but yet again we were too gutless at selection and will pay the price.

 

I did, and it was utter tripe. Complete nonsense. Explain very clearly for me. Bringing ANB for Vince in means that the rest of the team gets a better rest on the day? 

It's just absolute rubbish. 

Still a half to go

Time for a reboot. Not over yet

What changed.  Richardson adjusted setup and game to counter ours. 

What did we do ?

Let them !!.... and little to show from the box.

Hopefully this is corrected.

12 minutes ago, Webber said:

Here's the thing, the Saints best is six or more goals better than ours, but inconsistency has killed their season. They also know that if they go hard at us, we'll melt like butter, and either overuse the ball more, or just bang away, both behaviours that they set up for and then burn us with quick hands and speed. As much as I hate it, they're just that much better than us, with the added ability of being able to make us look like schoolchildren. Steven, Armitage, Riewoldt, Montagna are also all better than any of our best players. 

No it's not. The first quarter was their best against our best.

They simply know how to nullify our game. We don't have a clue, and don't learn anything about them from one game to the next.

Stop them getting it on the outside, and when they do get it on the outside we need to close them down further up the ground. If we don't, we may not get another goal.

Still winnable. However, Saints play like they know they can beat Melbourne. Melbourne plays like they'll probably lose. 

Against Hawthorn, Geelong last year, we played like we could win. The Saints being on an even level with us, it is clearly a mental thing. They toy with them and know exactly how to do it

Inagine what Riewoldt says to the team?

"They're nothing. They have no confidence. They can't beat us."

They are so confident against us.

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

We are winning everything bar tackles and score. That indicates we are overusing the ball and making silly errors, and that they are getting out and running free. Tidy up the disposal and increase pressure on them and we should win. Not sure I can see it happening unfortunately. 

Their pressure is forcing our players to take a short option, or panic handball option, while waiting for the guarded territory to open up. Its just not opening up.....

Edited July 17, 20169 yr by faultydet

Hogan back problems again?

If so rest him for the remainder of the season 

But don't worry, an opportunity for Dawes ?

Pathetic last 10 minutes.  Not even mental strength... again. Happened last time vs Saints

We are already second to the ball and look slow.

wow, just wow.

 

if Weller kicks this it's over

Game over.

Game over.

Just watching a replay of last time we played them here! They run back into the forward line with no player on them, then they kick over the top to that player and goal! 

1 minute ago, Undeeterred said:

I did, and it was utter tripe. Complete nonsense. Explain very clearly for me. Bringing ANB for Vince in means that the rest of the team gets a better rest on the day? 

It's just absolute rubbish. 

Every single player just outrun by their opposition, yeah you're right we're not tired at all.

Use your eyes. You're wrong. Simple as that.

 

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

if Weller kicks this it's over

He's a great kick for goal, game over.

Maverick Weller looks like Charles Manson.

game over