Michael Hibberd and Michael Hurley

[Older demon 2,741]

Statement from Essendon today in the HS "Xavier Campbell says Essendon would help Michael Hurley move clubs but big trade needed." Xavier suggests if Hurley wants to go they will facilitate this as long as a suitable trade is offered. Interesting change and perhaps a reflection that they know he wants out. Given their intransigence in previous trades it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I get the impression they will trade rather than go to the grievances tribunal. Roos said early on it may be best to trade out a player coming in to the last year of his contract than have him walk for nothing a year later. Will they want draft picks or players?

 

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

3 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Statement from Essendon today in the HS "Xavier Campbell says Essendon would help Michael Hurley move clubs but big trade needed." Xavier suggests if Hurley wants to go they will facilitate this as long as a suitable trade is offered. Interesting change and perhaps a reflection that they know he wants out. Given their intransigence in previous trades it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I get the impression they will trade rather than go to the grievances tribunal. Roos said early on it may be best to trade out a player coming in to the last year of his contract than have him walk for nothing a year later. Will they want draft picks or players?

 

They will want Hogan, Gawn, Viney, Trac, Oliver

[Mach5 4,767]

2 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

They will want Hogan, Gawn, Viney, Trac, Oliver

I'd rather not get Hurley at those prices. You can add in Brayshaw, Watts, Tyson, Salem, Strech and the McDonald bros for mine.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I really think elite midfield pace/run and a backup ruckman are our biggest needs, not another key backman as good as he is.

And yes, Xavier Campbell has shown their hand - they believe Hurley will go.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

3 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I'd rather not get Hurley at those prices. You can add in Brayshaw, Watts, Tyson, Salem, Strech and the McDonald bros for mine.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I really think elite midfield pace/run and a backup ruckman are our biggest needs, not another key backman as good as he is.

And yes, Xavier Campbell has shown their hand - they believe Hurley will go.

I mean Essendon will want all five for Hurley.

[daisycutter 29,603]

14 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Statement from Essendon today in the HS "Xavier Campbell says Essendon would help Michael Hurley move clubs but big trade needed." Xavier suggests if Hurley wants to go they will facilitate this as long as a suitable trade is offered. Interesting change and perhaps a reflection that they know he wants out. Given their intransigence in previous trades it will be interesting to see how this pans out. I get the impression they will trade rather than go to the grievances tribunal. Roos said early on it may be best to trade out a player coming in to the last year of his contract than have him walk for nothing a year later. Will they want draft picks or players?

 

It's not their choice to trade or go to the gt, it would be solely hurley's choice to take the gt route. and if essendrug make unrealistic trade requests that might make him more likely

once hurley (or any other of the remaining 5) have crossed that bridge and decide to leave, the whole risk/reward equation changes and the brinksmanship gets stepped up, but ultimately in favour (in this case) of the player   

[Dr. Gonzo 24,162]

4 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I have a funny feeling we're only really trying to land Hibberd. 

Not sure Hurley ever truly in our sights. Just a gut feeling.

I reckon with TMac signed the Swans will go hard for Hurley. He'll probably end up there or the Crows.

[Cards13 9,117]

39 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

It's not their choice to trade or go to the gt, it would be solely hurley's choice to take the gt route. and if essendrug make unrealistic trade requests that might make him more likely

once hurley (or any other of the remaining 5) have crossed that bridge and decide to leave, the whole risk/reward equation changes and the brinksmanship gets stepped up, but ultimately in favour (in this case) of the player   

Campbell thinks it is, from The Age article:

"You'd be trying to facilitate a trade," Campbell told SEN when asked what he would do if Hurley wanted to leave the club.

In the work that we've done with the AFL and others, the grievance process we don't think is that option working with those parties.

"And a lot of their (players') management groups have indicated if they did want to go, they'd work to a trade with the club.

"You want players that want to be at your football club. Particularly given the period of time we've been through, if a player said that they didn't feel they could come back to the football club with everything that had happened, of course we work with them to go to another club but we'd also ensure that the club got a reasonable return in exchange for that player leaving a contract early and that's really important."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-ceo-xavier-campbell-says-michael-hurley-free-to-leave-20160811-gqpy88.html

[daisycutter 29,603]

1 minute ago, Cards13 said:

Campbell thinks it is, from The Age article:

"You'd be trying to facilitate a trade," Campbell told SEN when asked what he would do if Hurley wanted to leave the club.

In the work that we've done with the AFL and others, the grievance process we don't think is that option working with those parties.

"And a lot of their (players') management groups have indicated if they did want to go, they'd work to a trade with the club.

"You want players that want to be at your football club. Particularly given the period of time we've been through, if a player said that they didn't feel they could come back to the football club with everything that had happened, of course we work with them to go to another club but we'd also ensure that the club got a reasonable return in exchange for that player leaving a contract early and that's really important."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-ceo-xavier-campbell-says-michael-hurley-free-to-leave-20160811-gqpy88.html

"don't think" = wishful thinking and spin

"we'd also ensure that the club got a reasonable return in exchange" - lol, now i know he's spinning (or hasn't spoken to dodoro)

[Adam The God 30,120]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

I'd rather not get Hurley at those prices. You can add in Brayshaw, Watts, Tyson, Salem, Strech and the McDonald bros for mine.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I really think elite midfield pace/run and a backup ruckman are our biggest needs, not another key backman as good as he is.

And yes, Xavier Campbell has shown their hand - they believe Hurley will go.

I'd be going hard for Josh Kelly then.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

"don't think" = wishful thinking and spin

"we'd also ensure that the club got a reasonable return in exchange" - lol, now i know he's spinning (or hasn't spoken to dodoro)

Also liked the bit where 'a lot of' the managers have said they'd prefer the trade route. A lot is very different to all.

This is all going to blow up in their faces. Someone is going to pull the gt trigger and the dam wall will collapse.  I'm more confident of picking up hibberd for nicks after that article.

I still think we're in the hurley race also.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

7 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Also liked the bit where 'a lot of' the managers have said they'd prefer the trade route. A lot is very different to all.

This is all going to blow up in their faces. Someone is going to pull the gt trigger and the dam wall will collapse.  I'm more confident of picking up hibberd for nicks after that article.

I still think we're in the hurley race also.

This is young Xaviery trying to set the agenda.

However, I would bet that "a lot of" clubs have said they'd prefer to get Hurley without giving up anything. They're not mugs and EFC have p!ssed off plenty at the trade table over the years.

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

It's not their choice to trade or go to the gt, it would be solely hurley's choice to take the gt route. and if essendrug make unrealistic trade requests that might make him more likely

once hurley (or any other of the remaining 5) have crossed that bridge and decide to leave, the whole risk/reward equation changes and the brinksmanship gets stepped up, but ultimately in favour (in this case) of the player   

I'm with you, i reckon there is a bit more to this. He is big enough to take them on, and i reckon he's doing it. The push back was when they got told by the admin at Ess to get back and get into it. 

[jackaub 1,402]

Well I don't think we desperately need any Essendon player

Would be nice but wouldn't spend too much (Money or players ) to get any of them

We have a very good developing list and should stick with it

If we get a player like Hibberd for nothing well and good If not we are still very ok in my opinion

For once we can pick and choose

[SaberFang 7,151]

It's so cute how Essendon are trying to dictate the terms of disgruntled player movement after implementing a WADA-sanctioned performance enhancing drugs doping regime.

Totez cute.

If only our humble club could aspire to such lofty heights one day.

[TRIGON 4,783]

2 hours ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

They will want Hogan, Gawn, Viney, Trac, Oliver

Would give them Terlich, Dunn or Garland...if we were feeling magnanimous.

[hardtack 10,514]

2 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Would give them Terlich, Dunn or Garland...if we were feeling magnanimous.

I think Hurley would be worth offering Garland, Dunn and a pick as a trade... both players are unlikely to play in the ones next year, but are still good enough to fill any gaps in Essendon's back line.

[Redleg 40,817]

1 hour ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

I'd be going hard for Josh Kelly then.

No chance.

[Redleg 40,817]

If Hibberd and Hurley want out and to different clubs, I think Essendon will try and do the Hibberd trade early and a bit more reasonably than usual,  to encourage the parties in the Hurley deal, to do a fair deal fairly quickly, so that picks can be used to on trade, or so that other deals can be done etc.

If we are after both, it will a long drawn out process, unless we lay down on the deal.

[daisycutter 29,603]

Just now, Redleg said:

If Hibberd and Hurley want out and to different clubs, I think Essendon will try and do the Hibberd trade early and a bit more reasonably than usual,  to encourage the parties in the Hurley deal, to do a fair deal fairly quickly, so that picks can be used to on trade, or so that other deals can be done etc.

If we are after both, it will a long drawn out process, unless we lay down on the deal.

fair....reasonable.....dodoro......essendrug..................................does not compute, red.......computer say no..... 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

If Hibberd and Hurley want out and to different clubs, I think Essendon will try and do the Hibberd trade early and a bit more reasonably than usual,  to encourage the parties in the Hurley deal, to do a fair deal fairly quickly, so that picks can be used to on trade, or so that other deals can be done etc.

If we are after both, it will a long drawn out process, unless we lay down on the deal.

Let's hope no other club lays down on any deal with the EFC for players.

If a player wants to leave and the EFC and then the EFC dont come to the party  ar the trade table you'd think it would be more likely that those players would get more disgruntled and leave as DFAs.

There is a lot to play out before the trade period.

My personal opinion is I wouldn't make big plays for the EFC players. They've been out for a year there is some risk. And i wouldn't trade a salem and break up our young talente to get both Hurley and Hibberd. Picks or nothing IMO. 

[faultydet 7,594]

I don't understand guys.

braysure has been telling us time and again that hurley is going nowhere. What happened?

[Ethan Tremblay 30,825]

4 minutes ago, faultydet said:

I don't understand guys.

braysure has been telling us time and again that hurley is going nowhere. What happened?

It turned out that braysure was just a [censored] moron.

Nuh it didn't really turn out, we knew it all along.

[faultydet 7,594]

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

It turned out that braysure was just a [censored] moron.

Nuh it didn't really turn out, we knew it all along.

braysure is an essendrug oracle. and a ninja..... And probably Batman.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Just now, faultydet said:

braysure is an essendrug oracle. and a ninja..... And probably Batman.

Do not besmirch the good name of Batman, sir.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,825]

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

braysure is an essendrug oracle. and a ninja..... And probably Batman.