Michael Hibberd and Michael Hurley

[Adam The God 30,120]

26 minutes ago, Abe said:

I suspect if the Lions move Leppa on he's someone who could put his hand up for that role, given he has a history at their club and seems to be seen as ready for a senior role, if not i'd not be upset if he came to the Dees as an assistant coach. 

What do you reckon about this, Mach? Would we want him?

[Biffen 12,940]

Watson saying Essendon 'would accept" Tom Mac for Hurley.

How about we have both and give Essendon SFA Tim?

[What 18,810]

15 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Watson saying Essendon 'would accept" Tom Mac for Hurley.

How about we have both and give Essendon SFA Tim?

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Tim Watson is a farkwit

[chookrat 4,247]

18 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Watson saying Essendon 'would accept" Tom Mac for Hurley.

How about we have both and give Essendon SFA Tim?

We could offer Terlich and Dawes if they offer to pay the last year of Dawes contract

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I'm confused, I thought Hurley would leave Essendon because of all the drugs he was administered, not because a lack of success.

[Akum 2,660]

Must be interesting for the T-Mac bashers that Watson considers him to be on a par with Hurley.

[John Demonic 5,747]

25 minutes ago, Akum said:

Must be interesting for the T-Mac bashers that Watson considers him to be on a par with Hurley.

Watson & Essendon have the touch of death. If they say they want TMAC  then i reckon they're saying he's far better than Hurley and they think they can discreetly rip us off. They must really think Hurley is gone and are desperate to get something as they know he's not going to offer them much without his heart in their club.

 

The more I think about it, the more i'm shifting towards TMAC in terms of presence if a choice between both. TMAC has a commanding follow-my-lead style body approach on the contest. Michael Hurley does seem like a bit of a man-child. I mean he's a tough competitor, but maybe it was the dreads. He seems like he could still be flimsy in terms of discipline and maturity. He does seem like he's had the feral teen years perhaps. TMAC might be the more solid stable player that we need to build around. The game v Hawks has obviously shifted a lot of peoples perceptions on our club, which is sad in a way. Good, but how flip floppy can some of us get, guilty as charged.

 

Dangerfield was Dean Gore and pick 9 & 29. Something similar would be what we should offer in terms of a package of draft picks or draft pick swaps and a player. 

Edited August 9, 2016 by johndemons

[jnrmac 20,053]

1 hour ago, Akum said:

Must be interesting for the T-Mac bashers that Watson considers him to be on a par with Hurley.

Not really I would have thought.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/super-footy-podcast-round-20-melbourne-must-get-michael-hurley-brisbanes-woe-bartels-spanner-in-the-works/news-story/1d0be64f0bda59ac90f8100c5c81d285

[Lucifers Hero 39,556]

1 hour ago, Akum said:

Must be interesting for the T-Mac bashers that Watson considers him to be on a par with Hurley.

TMac is the most underrated Dees player on Demonland. Media commentators are full of bs but each that I have heard have spoken glowing of Tom now and how good he will become.  They have him in the same conversation as Rance, Talia and Hurley.

It is no coincidence today was the second time Watson has stated their interest in Tom.  Watson is the EFC media mouthpiece.  He is their 'good cop'!  Clearly they are talking to Tom.  And they have the big $$ to throw at him and will pay overs which we have said we won't. 

Tom has at least 8 years of A+ performance ahead of him with a few AA's.  We might get Hibberd and/or picks but there is no equivalent (except Talia) to Tom.  Because we have shown our hand on Hibberd, I fear we will get shafted if Tom decides to go and nominates EFC. 

I just hope Tom tells them to GAGS! 

Edited August 9, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[Nasher 33,607]

1 hour ago, Akum said:

Must be interesting for the T-Mac bashers that Watson considers him to be on a par with Hurley.

Perhaps, although it could also be that the TMac bashers and the TMac lovers(?) are in furious agreement that nobody gives a toss about Tim Watson's opinion on anything.

[Copuchas 758]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

TMac is the most underrated Dees player on Demonland. Media commentators are full of bs but each that I have heard have spoken glowing of Tom now and how good he will become.  They have him in the same conversation as Rance, Talia and Hurley.

It is no coincidence today was the second time Watson has stated their interest in Tom.  Watson is the EFC media mouthpiece.  He is their 'good cop'!  Clearly they are talking to Tom.  And they have the big $$ to throw at him and will pay overs which we have said we won't. 

Tom has at least 8 years of A+ performance ahead of him with a few AA's.  We might get a player or picks but there is no equivalent (except Talia).  Because we have shown our hand on Hibberd, I fear we will get shafted if Tom decides to go and nominates EFC. 

I just hope Tom tells them to GAGS! 

Fully concur and am surprised that in this thread and the Tmac contract thread more isn't being made of the uniqueness of the MFC position in having the two brothers on their list.  Trading and contracting players is all about exploiting market imperfections and discontinuities.  There is no doubt that both McDonald brothers would place a premium on playing in the same team and this can be leveraged to a degree by the MFC.  It would therefore have to be an overwhelmingly compelling value proposition to forego this benefit and trade Tom willingly (and in doing so put Oscar's future with the club in jeopardy).  

Others have commented on how the "Rance moments" lasted well in to his career.  Many of us believed that getting games in to Oscar during this season has come at a cost but the investment is starting to bear fruit.  He is only 20 and Tom's 23.  I would be aghast if any other course of action is being contemplated other than re-signing them both.  Augment them with Hibberd by all means and make the play for Hurley if there's a way of securing him cheaply (presumably due to a realistic threat of contract breach litigation).  But not by imperiling the McDonald brothers future with the club.

[Mach5 4,767]

9 hours ago, Abe said:

I suspect if the Lions move Leppa on he's someone who could put his hand up for that role, given he has a history at their club and seems to be seen as ready for a senior role, if not i'd not be upset if he came to the Dees as an assistant coach. 

He's a career assistant, not interested or extroverted enough to be in the hot seat.
Only did the higher level coaching course at the behest of the club & struggled with it.
 

8 hours ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

What do you reckon about this, Mach? Would we want him?

A soft no would be my answer.
I respect what he has done as a player, and to a lesser extent what that coaching group has done (that he was a part of).
But I think we want the best, and the best would be those pushing for a senior position themselves, that are great communicators and leaders as well as teachers and tacticians.
I think back to Geelong having McCartney, Hinkley & Sanderson behind Bomba Thompson.
Clarkson having Beveridge, Bolton, Ratten, Hardwick, Leon Cameron and Adam Simpson over time.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind Enright, and he is of a similar personality, but maybe a bit more approachable..

[GM11 776]

21 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Perhaps, although it could also be that the TMac bashers and the TMac lovers(?) are in furious agreement that nobody gives a toss about Tim Watson's opinion on anything.

He would have to know they will only attract pensioners.

No one with a career ahead would opt to go there.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

I get the feeling that Tom would be a strong anti performance enhancing drug advocate. Given that he is, no doubt, an in demand player and would be seeking a successful club if he was to move (which I definitely don't think he will) you would think Essendon would be 18th on the list of clubs he would go to.

[daisycutter 29,603]

2 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/super-footy-podcast-round-20-melbourne-must-get-michael-hurley-brisbanes-woe-bartels-spanner-in-the-works/news-story/1d0be64f0bda59ac90f8100c5c81d285

hurley obviously wants to come to melbourne judging by his growing a maximus gawn beard  (the man bun will have to go though)

[DeeMfc 621]

1 hour ago, Copuchas said:

Fully concur and am surprised that in this thread and the Tmac contract thread more isn't being made of the uniqueness of the MFC position in having the two brothers on their list.  Trading and contracting players is all about exploiting market imperfections and discontinuities.  There is no doubt that both McDonald brothers would place a premium on playing in the same team and this can be leveraged to a degree by the MFC.  It would therefore have to be an overwhelmingly compelling value proposition to forego this benefit and trade Tom willingly (and in doing so put Oscar's future with the club in jeopardy).  

Others have commented on how the "Rance moments" lasted well in to his career.  Many of us believed that getting games in to Oscar during this season has come at a cost but the investment is starting to bear fruit.  He is only 20 and Tom's 23.  I would be aghast if any other course of action is being contemplated other than re-signing them both.  Augment them with Hibberd by all means and make the play for Hurley if there's a way of securing him cheaply (presumably due to a realistic threat of contract breach litigation).  But not by imperiling the McDonald brothers future with the club.

Post of the year.

[TRIGON 4,783]

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hurley obviously wants to come to melbourne judging by his growing a maximus gawn beard  (the man bun will have to go though)

Keep the beard, shave the head. You KNOW it makes sense!

[Gawnye 1]

Hi i'm an Essendon fan. Just joined so new here. Basically here to offer anything regarding Essendon. Am realistic and not going to be bias. I know how much every club hates me and my club btw. IMO hibberd will join dees.

[Grapeviney 9,708]

25 minutes ago, Gawnye said:

Hi i'm an Essendon fan. Just joined so new here. Basically here to offer anything regarding Essendon. Am realistic and not going to be bias. I know how much every club hates me and my club btw. IMO hibberd will join dees.

Hi 'braysure'...

Bye 'braysure'.

[dazzledavey36 54,236]

Wow braysure aint the sharpest tool in the shed..

[KLV 1,765]

11 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hurley obviously wants to come to melbourne judging by his growing a maximus gawn beard  (the man bun will have to go though)

So 2015, (the man bun, that is)

[binman 42,629]

11 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

Hi 'braysure'...

Bye 'braysure'.

11 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

 

Now that is comedy gold. 

[Nasher 33,607]

14 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

Hi 'braysure'...

Bye 'braysure'.

lol yes - obviously the 'open arms' policy does not apply when you've already been given the boot once.  

[Grapeviney 9,708]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wow braysure aint the sharpest tool in the shed..

Aside from the same IP address, he joined 15 minutes after 'braysure' was banned and had the word 'troll' in his registered email - how dumb can you be?