Just FYI... in case you were expecting to see sunshine on your TV this Sunday... potentially 50mm of rain over two days - this one could be a very ugly game to watch...

Probably won't be as bad as Metricon several weeks back - but I think this makes a big difference as to what contest this will see. I hope we have learnt something from the Hawks game, because the Bloods will play the wet pretty well I reckon!

Discuss...

1) leave nothing on the table, slogfest, BYE next round

2) Action Jackson Viney

In in Sydney Timmuns. 

 

I'm hoping row x is undercover! 

57 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

1) leave nothing on the table, slogfest, BYE next round

2) Action Jackson Viney

3) Bernie Vince

4) The Skipper

13 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

3) Bernie Vince

4) The Skipper

Could probably name 15 of our 22 from Monday who love a slog. I'm betting bugg, Kennedy, Tyson, hogan, Dawes, gawn, jetta, Oliver,  kent, trengove, Vandenberg and petracca all love the contested scrap this will turn out to be.

And I'll mention your boy watts who was very impressive in our last hitout in the wet. Optimistic about our hopes on sunday

In those conditions I can't believe we are going in so tall.  Mc x 2 and Frost back, Hoges, Dawes and Watts forward as well as Max.

Just dumb I could have thought.

As i said before the Hawks game one of the biggest myths in footy is that wet weather brings a more skilled team and less skilled team closer together due to the difficulty in handling the ball.

The opposite is true - the more skilled the player the more likely they are to be able to mitigate against the impact of rain. We saw exactly that against the Hawks with players like Watts, Rioli, Vince and Gunston handling the ball beautifully. Further rain exacerbates skill errors from the less skilled.

That said rain does make it much harder to mark the ball which should help our chances stopping buddy (though he is amazing on the ground) but equally make Hogan's and Dawes jobs harder.

I expect that we would have had to have learnt a lesson against the Hawks that we need to kick it forward at all costs and limit the number of  slick handballs. 

Tough game but it we will have some show if we bring our best competitiveness to the table. Hard to beat the Swan in those stakes though.

Edited June 17, 20169 yr by binman

6 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Could probably name 15 of our 22 from Monday who love a slog. I'm betting bugg, Kennedy, Tyson, hogan, Dawes, gawn, jetta, Oliver,  kent, trengove, Vandenberg and petracca all love the contested scrap this will turn out to be.

And I'll mention your boy watts who was very impressive in our last hitout in the wet. Optimistic about our hopes on sunday

Good call

Im not convinced swans play that well in the wet

They are used to it but plyers like heeney and franklin prefer the dry, Our onballers you mention will do well in the wet

5 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

In those conditions I can't believe we are going in so tall.  Mc x 2 and Frost back, Hoges, Dawes and Watts forward as well as Max.

Just dumb I could have thought.

Vogon Poetry. Haven't heard that in years

Classic mate!!

I'd do omac for a smaller player like grimes. Make Dawes second ruck. 

Guess I picked the wrong interstate game to go to. Had planned to walk from our motel to the ground. I'm packing my togs and swim goggles.

6 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Good call

Im not convinced swans play that well in the wet

They are used to it but plyers like heeney and franklin prefer the dry, Our onballers you mention will do well in the wet

The two games they played this year in the wet, are the two games they have been most vulnerable. Gold Coast and Brisbane. 

I agree, I have watched them a few times this year and some of the so called contested kings they have, have not looked anywhere near as willing to get their hands dirty in a few games. Obviously they are a class team, but Richmond, GWS, Brisbane, severely depleted gcs and adelaide have all shown they can be beaten in the midfield if you contest hard enough.

Should be a good game! Bring your ponchos/snorkels!

 

On 17 June 2016 at 3:46 PM, leave it to deever said:

Good call

Im not convinced swans play that well in the wet

They are used to it but plyers like heeney and franklin prefer the dry, Our onballers you mention will do well in the wet

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On 17 June 2016 at 3:59 PM, Generation dee said:

The two games they played this year in the wet, are the two games they have been most vulnerable. Gold Coast and Brisbane. 

I agree, I have watched them a few times this year and some of the so called contested kings they have, have not looked anywhere near as willing to get their hands dirty in a few games. Obviously they are a class team, but Richmond, GWS, Brisbane, severely depleted gcs and adelaide have all shown they can be beaten in the midfield if you contest hard enough.

The Swans mids play a similar game style to ours not surprising given the Roos connection....they like to flick the ball around and find space. It's a harder game style to play in wet weather for obvious reasons.

The game will be won by the team that adapts quickest to the conditions. Our inexperience may cost us here.

I don't think we're too tall but do worry about Dawes, probably our least skilled player. As 'binman' said earlier it's the skilled player that excels in the wet, my proviso is so long as they have an appetite for the contest and are prepared to keep their feet.

You can bank on Tyson in these conditions.

I have.

This will be our first game this year with 4 field umpires, correct?  Looking forward to the increased pick up of old forgotten rule breaches like blocking , holding marks and pushing in the back.

23 minutes ago, willmoy said:

This will be our first game this year with 4 field umpires, correct?  Looking forward to the increased pick up of old forgotten rule breaches like blocking , holding marks and pushing in the back.

Don't hold your breath 'willmoy'...

 

 

23 minutes ago, willmoy said:

This will be our first game this year with 4 field umpires, correct?  Looking forward to the increased pick up of old forgotten rule breaches like blocking , holding marks and pushing in the back.

This week we'll rememebr to kick it off the ground and the umpires will remember the rules unfortunately. MFCSS

58 minutes ago, rjay said:

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The Swans mids play a similar game style to ours not surprising given the Roos connection....they like to flick the ball around and find space. It's a harder game style to play in wet weather for obvious reasons.

The game will be won by the team that adapts quickest to the conditions. Our inexperience may cost us here.

I don't think we're too tall but do worry about Dawes, probably our least skilled player. As 'binman' said earlier it's the skilled player that excels in the wet, my proviso is so long as they have an appetite for the contest and are prepared to keep their feet.

You can bank on Tyson in these conditions.

Whilst I agree with you saying the team who adapts quickest wins, do you think it is easier for a team who is experienced playing 1 style to change quicker, or a less experienced side who isn't as mechanical to change it up? 

On the Hawthorn visit, I'd have thought we were definitely out-smarted in the wet. It was obvious how we were outsmarted even though we played harder and contested much better. But we didn't adapt our style of play to the conditions, even though a slick Hawthorn team changed their usual possession off style to beat us.

I'm sure we learnt a lot more out of that game than we have let on thus far. If it's as wet as the Hawthorn game, I'd bank on an even smarter Melbourne performance. That doesn't guarantee a win, but we are definitely a learning team

On 17 June 2016 at 3:57 PM, M_9 said:

Guess I picked the wrong interstate game to go to. Had planned to walk from our motel to the ground. I'm packing my togs and swim goggles.

Should of been played today.

6 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Should of been played today.

yeah, should have

 

59 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Whilst I agree with you saying the team who adapts quickest wins, do you think it is easier for a team who is experienced playing 1 style to change quicker, or a less experienced side who isn't as mechanical to change it up?

On the Hawthorn visit, I'd have thought we were definitely out-smarted in the wet. It was obvious how we were outsmarted even though we played harder and contested much better. But we didn't adapt our style of play to the conditions, even though a slick Hawthorn team changed their usual possession off style to beat us.

I'm sure we learnt a lot more out of that game than we have let on thus far. If it's as wet as the Hawthorn game, I'd bank on an even smarter Melbourne performance. That doesn't guarantee a win, but we are definitely a learning team

The Hawks did noticeably well out of those 'random' kicks forward off the ground. Hoping that's one of the learnings (and that 'random' actually becomes/means 'intended')

Just now, daisycutter said:

yeah, should have

Weather was good today DC. Obviously was never going to happen for obvious reasons. Been looking forward to tomorrow for months, a bit of rain I can handle but not looking forward to getting drenched. Might end up in the standing room.

Michie in for OMac given the rain?

6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Michie in for OMac given the rain?

let me consult first with picket, moonie. i'll get back to you