The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[old55 23,047]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Personally I'd rather pick 3 and Apeness and next years first round pick. If Fremantle want Hogan, he won't be cheap. One pick and a player is too cheap. 

As has been pointed out by others, Freo can't trade their 2017 1st along with their 2016 1st because they traded their 2015 1st for H.Bennell.  You need to come up with something different.

[CP5 166]

Darling also squibbed it in the GF.

Unfortunately, he's gaining a reputation.

[old55 23,047]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I got nothing then. 

I think trading with Freo is a bit of a problem - they don't have a 2016 2nd and they can't trade both 1sts.  They won't trade Fyfe or Neale and they haven't got much else of interest.  Maybe Walters.

[old55 23,047]

4 minutes ago, CP5 said:

Darling also squibbed it in the GF.

Unfortunately, he's gaining a reputation.

He dropped an easy chest mark at a critical time - not sure it was a squib though.

[stuie 7,374]

3 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I think trading with Freo is a bit of a problem - they don't have a 2016 2nd and they can't trade both 1sts.  They won't trade Fyfe or Neale and they haven't got much else of interest.  Maybe Walters.

Could be a 3 way trade.

For example, Hogan to Freo, Pick 3 to GC, O'Meara and Freo pick 39 to MFC.

Not saying that will happen, just an example of how a 3 way trade could work.

 

[old55 23,047]

6 minutes ago, stuie said:

Could be a 3 way trade.

For example, Hogan to Freo, Pick 3 to GC, O'Meara and Freo pick 39 to MFC.

Not saying that will happen, just an example of how a 3 way trade could work.

 

Yes but it's not very realistic - GC already have a heap of 1st rounders and O'Meara wants to go to Hawthorn.

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, Fifty-5 said:

Yes but it's not very realistic - GC already have a heap of 1st rounders and O'Meara wants to go to Hawthorn.

As I said, it's just an example.

But just for argument's sake, GC could trade that or any of their other picks, or they may decide it's finally time to follow GWS' example and just load up on draft talent. Also, GC have made it clear they don't care where O'Meara wants to go, they'll trade him to the club with the best offer.

 

[old55 23,047]

7 minutes ago, stuie said:

As I said, it's just an example.

But just for argument's sake, GC could trade that or any of their other picks, or they may decide it's finally time to follow GWS' example and just load up on draft talent. Also, GC have made it clear they don't care where O'Meara wants to go, they'll trade him to the club with the best offer.

 

That's what GC said, but O'Meara has to agree.  He's OOC, he holds the whip hand - he's going to Hawthorn.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

10 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's what GC said, but O'Meara has to agree.  He's OOC, he holds the whip hand - he's going to Hawthorn.

We get that.  As Stuie said, twice, it's an example of how a three way trade could work.

[stuie 7,374]

11 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's what GC said, but O'Meara has to agree.  He's OOC, he holds the whip hand - he's going to Hawthorn.

I'm not sure that's 100% correct. GC could refuse to do the Hawthorn deal if they have better offers and then O'Meara would end up in the draft, and do you think everyone will politely let him slip through to pick 16-18?

 

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

I'm not sure that's 100% correct. GC could refuse to do the Hawthorn deal if they have better offers and then O'Meara would end up in the draft, and do you think everyone will politely let him slip through to pick 16-18?

 

He'd wanna get very used to the idea of wearing Red and Black

[stuie 7,374]

9 minutes ago, Abe said:

He'd wanna get very used to the idea of wearing Red and Black

I bet he felt like someone walked over his grave just now...

 

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

I bet he felt like someone walked over his grave just now...

 

Hahahaha i feel bad 

[old55 23,047]

13 minutes ago, stuie said:

I'm not sure that's 100% correct. GC could refuse to do the Hawthorn deal if they have better offers and then O'Meara would end up in the draft, and do you think everyone will politely let him slip through to pick 16-18?

 

Yes I do depending on what pick Hawthorn end up with - look at Luke Ball

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, Fifty-5 said:

Yes I do depending on what pick Hawthorn end up with - look at Luke Ball

Won't happen with O'Meara. Different situation and player and a different club in Essendon who would back themselves to take him and keep him.

 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

32 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's what GC said, but O'Meara has to agree.  He's OOC, he holds the whip hand - he's going to Hawthorn.

I wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk into the PSD.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

Hogans old man is critically ill. Do you all not think this has something to do with his below average last month and at times poor body language???? 

Nothing is going to happen with his contract while Jesse is going through this terrible experience. He is contracted for another year, has told the club he will stay a Dee, but all negotiations have been put on hold while Jesse concentrates on his family and father.  

If this experience makes him change his mind and brings the "go home" factor into play, at least we will be well compensated, most probably with Fyfe.  Fyfe is a free agent next year. Fyfe has indicated he will entertain offers. Freo is much better off getting Hogan for him this year who is worth two first round picks rather than one first round pick (compensation) next year.  There have been discussions between the clubs.

In saying that it is most likely that Hogan has not signed a new contract or asked to be traded by trade week.  If this is the case it does not mean he is leaving at the end of next season.  Simply he is concentrating on bigger issues at this time.

It is highly likely he will re-sign as a Dee.  All good management plans for the unexpected. The club has full expectation that he will stay.

Edited September 14, 2016 by Grand New Flag

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

14 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

Hogans old man is critically ill. Do you all not think this has something to do with his below average last month and at times poor body language???? 

Nothing is going to happen with his contract while Jesse is going through this terrible experience. He is contracted for another year, has told the club he will stay a Dee, but all negotiations have been put on hold while Jesse concentrates on his family and father.  

If this experience makes him change his mind and brings the "go home" factor into play, at least we will be well compensated, most probably with Fyfe.  Fyfe is a free agent next year. Fyfe has indicated he will entertain offers. Freo is much better off getting Hogan for him this year who is worth two first round picks rather than one first round pick (compensation) next year.  There have been discussions between the clubs.

In saying that it is most likely that Hogan has not signed a new contract or asked to be traded by trade week.  If this is the case it does not mean he is leaving at the end of next season.  Simply he is concentrating on bigger issues at this time.

Regardless this is an unlikely scenario, this is a fall back position.  All good management plans for the unexpected. The club has full expectation that he will stay.

How does Nat Fyfe feel about all this? can't imagine him being keen on coming to the MFC 

[old55 23,047]

It's off the Hogan thread, but O'Meara would go into the ND with the aim of getting through to Hawthorn Ball-style and Essendon wouldn't use pick 1 on him.

[stuie 7,374]

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

It's off the Hogan thread, but O'Meara would go into the ND with the aim of getting through to Hawthorn Ball-style and Essendon wouldn't use pick 1 on him.

OR he could end up somewhere else Nick Stevens-style...

 

[old55 23,047]

Just now, stuie said:

OR he could end up somewhere else Nick Stevens-style...

 

Agreed - let's take it to the O'Meara thread

[binman 42,148]

9 minutes ago, Abe said:

How does Nat Fyfe feel about all this? can't imagine him being keen on coming to the MFC 

Disagree. I reckon he would be dead keen to come to the dees. We are closer to a flag than Freo. In fact it is a perfect time to come to the dees - we are on the rise and he could play a part in that rise.

And with our list and solid of field governance (who would have thought i'd ever be able to say that?) we are well set up for long term success. We have a game plan that suits his style. We are stable in terms of coaching etc and as i've said previously i suspect Fyfe would enjoy the approach and style of Goodwin.

I reckon of the Victorian clubs the bullies would be the only other club he would be keen on.

[hardtack 10,434]

28 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

Hogans old man is critically ill. Do you all not think this has something to do with his below average last month and at times poor body language????

This seems to be news that no-one here has any knowledge of, so how do you think people would be taking that into account? 

I have done some googling and the only reference I could find in relation to Jesse's father being ill, was from May this year and just happened to be from the poster Third Man Up on page 105 of the "The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan" thread here on Demonland.  Perhaps you might care to point us to where we could verify that bit of info... it would certainly go a long way towards assuaging the fears of numerous posters in this thread.

[Mickey 4,524]

4 minutes ago, hardtack said:

This seems to be news that no-one here has any knowledge of, so how do you think people would be taking that into account? 

I have done some googling and the only reference I could find in relation to Jesse's father being ill, was from May this year and just happened to be from the poster Third Man Up on page 105 of the "The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan" thread here on Demonland.  Perhaps you might care to point us to where we could verify that bit of info... it would certainly go a long way towards assuaging the fears of numerous posters in this thread.

The mods have already said they have removed any reference to this until recently as they thought it was a personal matter

[Moonshadow 17,577]

2 minutes ago, hardtack said:

This seems to be news that no-one here has any knowledge of, so how do you think people would be taking that into account? 

I have done some googling and the only reference I could find in relation to ... , was from May this year and just happened to be from the poster Third Man Up on page 105 of the "The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan" thread here on Demonland.  Perhaps you might care to point us to where we could verify that bit of info... it would certainly go a long way towards assuaging the fears of numerous posters in this thread.

It's been mentioned a number of times and rightly deleted.