MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 7

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3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

its not a no brainer at all when the said #2 pick is coming off a very serious career threatening injury and is probably still gaining confidence in his foot

 

He will come in when hes ready, its the right call to leave it up to him

Agreed. The mental scarring of such a long and laborious injury period is often left unmeasured and unappreciated 

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I just don't understand anyone thinking we should rush back Trengove after that injury. Deserves a solid 10 block of games in the VFL at an absolute minimum.

The form of the seniors isn't even relevant to the discussion; I'm far more concerned about him building a legitimate match fitness before he comes near AFL again. The last thing you want is his confidence crushed upon debut if he can't keep up with his teammates.

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I understand that people are worried about Lynch, but I cannot understand the angst from many on here re: Peter Wright.

Yes. He is tall.

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7 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Yoiu know whats annoying?  When we beat Gold Coast we will still be 9th!  Adelaide and Doggies play each other but have huge percentages

We would need the TIgers to beat Hawthorn to be in the 8 after Round 7

I'll just take the win thanks, HH.

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5 hours ago, leehow said:

To those who want ANB in the team, can I ask which midfielder you would drop for him? Viv has played at half back for Casey for a few weeks, so if he plays he comes in for Salem, where ANB i assume is competing for an inside midfield spot, and i can't see who he would replace there. 

This is a good point. Better to keep him pushing hard at VFL level and getting games into the legs, than bring him in at AFL level and play him out of position. Happy to wait to see ANB.

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5 hours ago, Moneider96 said:

I'll be extremely [censored] if ANB ends up leaving for lack of opportunity. And then he dominates up in SA.

That does happen in teams with greater depth in a certain area. But I wouldn't worry just yet. He'll get his turn this year.

Edited May 5, 2016 by AdamFarr

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2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Like others, I have no idea why we'd drop Dunn and Frost given Gold Coast have 2 x 200 cm tall forwards and we play a defensive zone which only gives those guys more of an advantage...

Dunn is taller than Garland and Frost is too. 

How many times is Roos going to pull the 'in hindsight we probably made an error by selecting him' line? He has now done it with Lumumba by stating that they shouldn't have played him last week. WTF? Does he understand how unprofessional he sounds given this is a repeat offence and we're only six rounds into a season?

It only amplifies my concern about this week's selections. 

Truly baffled.

The midfield will be where it's won obviously. But again, if we're out-marked and bodied simply because of a lack of height in defence, I'm going to have issues.

Feels like they have decided to double down on the midfield run and carry and just hope it doesn't get back enough to matter. Will either look inspired or backfire badly 

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10 pages already? Can someone give me a broad summary of the sentiment here to save me from scrolling through?

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4 minutes ago, Skuit said:

10 pages already? Can someone give me a broad summary of the sentiment here to save me from scrolling through?

We've selected the wrong team and the world's going to end on Saturday.

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Just now, Jesse Christ said:

We've selected the wrong team and the world's going to end on Saturday.

Cheers JC. How is Picket coping?

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1 minute ago, Skuit said:

Cheers JC. How is Picket coping?

Oliver's in so we're sparred a temper tantrum until next Thursday night. 

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3 minutes ago, Skuit said:

10 pages already? Can someone give me a broad summary of the sentiment here to save me from scrolling through?

Oh my god they have 2 tall forwards and we have dropped 2 talls! Why don't I just shoot myself now.

Our defense is terrible.

Dunn is ommited, Good.

Lumumba was dropped. Nah he was concussed. Well he would have been dropped anyway.

We will win. No we won't.

Michie is playing. Why isn't ANB?

Garland? Wtf?

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1 minute ago, Jesse Christ said:

Oliver's in so we're sparred a temper tantrum until next Thursday night. 

And Stuie with the Oliver in v pedomyths/Frost omission? Wiseblood re. execution of reserved joy at Garland's return? I love this board.

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9 minutes ago, Skuit said:

And Stuie with the Oliver in v pedomyths/Frost omission? Wiseblood re. execution of reserved joy at Garland's return? I love this board.

Well in all fairness even when Garland was asked how it felt to be back in the team he responded with "squeek" and just scurried back into a hole in a wall.  

I want to know what the hell is going on with Frost and why he was drafted as a backman,  played well as a backman, we are short on key backman,  yet we keep trying to turn him into something he is not!   So bloody frustrating I'm sometimes tempted to use all caps! 

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3 hours ago, praha said:

Dunn and Frost are nonsensical omissions. We lose Salem's skill in the backline as well as Dunn's height, and Frost who can play back. Oliver obviously a good inclusion but Michie seems like an inclusion for the sake of it. Garland is more of a liability than Dunn.

If we get stitched up by their talls again, God help me.

I think we're backing our mids to win the day and our half forwards/forward press to prevent quick GCS rebound from half back. If we can do that, we can probably restrict them enough. I'm not super confident though.

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Exactly, he doesn't need to push out anyone. But Stevie Wonder could see that Neal Bullen would add more to the side then Harmes as his ability to win the ball in the midfield and his huge work rate and endurance is suited more to the 90 interchange cap.

To an extent I agree, DD, but I suspect they'd be worried about ANB's leg speed and blokes like Saad (if he ends up playing) and Malceski scurrying away from him. Harmes is quicker and although he's extremely lucky, will get the week to atone simply for his leg speed. We'll obviously be hoping he brings his A grade tackling game.

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7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

His foot skills is alot better then most in the senior team. Go watch his kick to Brayshaw against the Roos last year.

Well done to skid, im a fan and he has obviously worked very hard to get picked. Hopefully now he puts on a good performance and keeps his spot.

And I hope he gets enough games to show his worth. He has been treated cruelly in the past. Dropped after just one game several times.

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2 hours ago, old dee said:

Try as I might bing I cannot see how you can make the statement that it will have nothing to do with selection.

on that basis we could play any combination of the 43 and the result would be the same.

But we're only changing players around the fringe, the core of the team is basically the same. Also, only making minimal changes week to week, - OK, this week 4, but usually it's one or two. Perhaps I could have expressed it better (!) I just mean that swapping our 23rd best mid for our 24th best mid isn't going to make much difference.

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2 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

Nobody is suggesting he is going to come in and dominate. People are just wondering why he isn't being rewarded for consistent performances in the VFL, when others are in the side after one good game for Casey i.e. Stretch, Garland etc.

Michie has been the most consistent - according to Plapp - so surely only reasonable that he's first cab off the rank? As for the others, it's not a case of either/or, Garland and Stretch play (very) different roles/positions to ANB and Michie. Also, Michie has been playing off half-back, whereas ANB is an inside mid, and with two half-backs to be replaced, I would have thought that the choice wasn't between ANB and Michie, but between Michie, White and Terlich.

Sure, reward consistency, but in the context of team balance.

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5 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Forecast is for rain.. Michie is s mud runner, will be good in conditions, probably explains 1 less tall?

Which weather forecast were you looking at? 

I'm seeing 27 and fine.

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5 hours ago, SaberFang said:

I just don't understand anyone thinking we should rush back Trengove after that injury. Deserves a solid 10 block of games in the VFL at an absolute minimum.

The form of the seniors isn't even relevant to the discussion; I'm far more concerned about him building a legitimate match fitness before he comes near AFL again. The last thing you want is his confidence crushed upon debut if he can't keep up with his teammates.

Trengove will be named next week. Nothing surer...

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Casey should dominate next week with Dunn as Fullback and Dawes off the Halfback.

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15 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Yoiu know whats annoying?  When we beat Gold Coast we will still be 9th!  Adelaide and Doggies play each other but have huge percentages

We would need the TIgers to beat Hawthorn to be in the 8 after Round 7

Dont the Tigers have a good recent record against Hawthorn and they have significant injuries so maybe we could be 8th after Saturday

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7 hours ago, Skuit said:

And Stuie with the Oliver in v pedomyths/Frost omission? Wiseblood re. execution of reserved joy at Garland's return? I love this board.

Haven't said a word about Garland.... Yet. I'll wait until he's actually played before assessing how it went. 

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12 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

So, no one has any faith in the team at all?  

7 hours ago, Jesse Christ said:

Well in all fairness even when Garland was asked how it felt to be back in the team he responded with "squeek" and just scurried back into a hole in a wall.  

I want to know what the hell is going on with Frost and why he was drafted as a backman,  played well as a backman, we are short on key backman,  yet we keep trying to turn him into something he is not!   So bloody frustrating I'm sometimes tempted to use all caps! 

Garden to kick 3.