MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 5, 2016

[Clayton van Oliver 1,823]

7 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

I think Tracca will play. The Garlett fitness test smells of a smokescreen to take pressure off Petracca and not cause a fanfare.around his debut

People saying that if Trac was debiting there would be a video of him being told by Roosy or whatever dont understand the difference between Petracca and someone like Wagner or Hunt.

Massive expectations vs none

I agree with this. Imagine the reactions from the 'land if those vids had not been of Wagner and Hunt but of Petracca calling his mum (or creator). Yes a lot of hype, but it would also harken back to the marketing of Watts' debut. There's deliberate strategising going on these days that doesn't have an amateur reek to it.

[nutbean 8,838]

36 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

About hair height?

What is that about ?

Mate...you are paid a zillion dollars a year  - can you not afford a mirror that would tell you that a decent hairdresser is required ?

[pinkshark 950]

I reckon we will miss Oliver a great deal.  He is the business.

My massive worry is that every time we get some media love and attention the players get ahead of themselves.  Clearly this was the case with Essendon, round 2.  I can see them running out this weekend thinking they are premiership contenders.  They are so desperate to rid themselves of past demons (pardon the pun) that they just take their eyes off the ball (pardon the pun again).  Of which is,  to individually focus, to stay together, and to win games.  

As much as we have improved, its 50/50 for me.  But [censored], we have to get over this bloody 'little league' embarrassing target of winning two in a row.  Just to state the bleeding obvious!!!!!!!!!

Come on Dee's, it's [censored] time to grow up.

[Generation dee 1,336]

23 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Generally the club won't name a debutante if they're not going to play, regardless of where they were drafted. Same thing happened with Wagner a couple of weeks back. I don't think it's about Petracca being a #2 pick, it's about a young kid playing his first game.

Having said that Petracca would have already been told he was in the 25 as an "emergency" and the chances of playing were slim so probably more of a deal for supporters than the him.

Bingo 

[H_T 3,049]

Resting a player doesn't wash for mine. I understand the logical hindsight on Brayshaw for 2015 that's all of a sudden come to light as some sort of precedence.

But Oliver's game times haven't been excessive, he's handled himself well. And this is a big game he would excel in with a full 7 day break.

At times he's been critical in getting first to the ball in stoppages, dishing it off having someone already committed to him (in a tackle). I reckon we'll miss him.

[daisycutter 29,738]

19 minutes ago, nutbean said:

What is that about ?

Mate...you are paid a zillion dollars a year  - can you not afford a mirror that would tell you that a decent hairdresser is required ?

was probably a cheaper option than platform boots, nut

[DubDee 26,117]

Oliver 11 touches and 1 clearance last week.

hopefully the idea of resting him will mean we can limit his ineffectual games like last week

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

3 minutes ago, DubDee said:

hopefully the idea of resting him will mean we can limit his ineffectual games like last week

Not watched much footy before?

[olisik 4,060]

Effectively Oliver for Vince.

 

i will take that 

[old55 23,687]

INB4 R6 Team selection - if we have a good win this week and no injuries, next week's selection with Oliver rested and Petracca raring to go could get even more interesting!  They're the sorts of problems we like to have!

[demon-4-life 467]

Not sure if posted, and I guess not a surprise, but confirmed, tracc not playing. Straight from his best mates speaker phone conversation with him

[nutbean 8,838]

21 minutes ago, H_T said:

Resting a player doesn't wash for mine. I understand the logical hindsight on Brayshaw for 2015 that's all of a sudden come to light as some sort of precedence.

But Oliver's game times haven't been excessive, he's handled himself well. And this is a big game he would excel in with a full 7 day break.

At times he's been critical in getting first to the ball in stoppages, dishing it off having someone already committed to him (in a tackle). I reckon we'll miss him.

 

 

With no insight whatsoever ( like the disclaimer ?) I would assume his resting is based on more than just Sunday - I would think they watched him closely at training to see how zippy he was etc , when they have reached this decision.

I have a preference for the first two weeks Oliver playing like that for 3 weeks and then missing one than have the Oliver of last week  play like that ongoing. I  am not saying that he played badly last week and he had some crucial touches but he was down on his previous output and if the theory is that resting him a week will mean more games like the first few weeks then I say rest him a week and freshen him up. 

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Round 5 but the sentiment stands. Did you just completely erase the second round from your memory?

Completely subconscious.

I guess I must've. 

 

[Juicebox 628]

4 hours ago, Copuchas said:

Hampson out of the squad and Townsend in.  You watch, they'll play Morris and Townsend and try and go the knuckle on the young Dees.  Hardwick learned it from Sheedy....the apple never falls far from the tree.  I think our boys will acquit themselves well if this transpires...

Ahh yes Townsend and Morris - the 'tough guys'... When push comes to shove, who would you rather in your corner? Nathan jones or Trent Cotchin?

[Deestroy All 14,266]

1 hour ago, nutbean said:

What is that about ?

Mate...you are paid a zillion dollars a year  - can you not afford a mirror that would tell you that a decent hairdresser is required ?

Cotch's wife definitely won't tell him.

[Cards13 9,117]

Final team, Vince and Garlett in. Jones and Oliver out.

[Seraph 1,824]

As expected.

In: Vince, Garlett

Out: M. Jones, Oliver

Emer: Garland, Petracca, ANB

 

Interestingly, Garlett has been named on the bench. 

Edited April 22, 2016 by Seraph

[What 18,810]

 

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[dees189227 12,398]

They should bring Christian in next week against the saints at etihad. It's our home game and may get a few more people through the gate not that's a reason to pick him. Christian will get his turn. It's sort of a good thing he isn't being rushed. 5 years ago he would have been chucked in. But now we are having small successes we don't need to make big changes every week. 

But those 2 ins are very good for us. 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

As I knew. When Trac is ready they will make a big deal about it and he will play. No issues leaving him out. I'm all for making sure he is fit and firing. Pressure on this kid is massive. If he comes in and blows up in the first quarter, imagine the reaction. 

As for resting Oliver, kid came in without the best fitness base having lost weight to get drafted. He did really well to force himself into the side, but he can barely crack 70% TOG. Wouldn't surprise me if he's feeling sore and they're worried about overuse injuries. How furious would we be if they played him and he broke down with a groin injury or a hamstring injury? 

Better to be cautious with these guys. They are the future and precious commodities. No need to rush them. 

[monoccular 17,573]

2 hours ago, H_T said:

Resting a player doesn't wash for mine. I understand the logical hindsight on Brayshaw for 2015 that's all of a sudden come to light as some sort of precedence.

But Oliver's game times haven't been excessive, he's handled himself well. And this is a big game he would excel in with a full 7 day break.

At times he's been critical in getting first to the ball in stoppages, dishing it off having someone already committed to him (in a tackle). I reckon we'll miss him.

If Oliver has "general soreness" yes, don't play him.

I am concerned though - it was he, in his first game, who started out final quarter recovery round 1, and he did some great clearance work v Norf as well.

Then are we going to bring him back next week, as well as debuting CP5 in a game that should be winnable?

[What 18,810]

Trac will play next week for sure. It is a short week as we play Sunday night and then face the Saints at 1pm Saturday on the hard Etihad surface so players will continue to be managed.

Go Dees

[Gator 17,449]

4 hours ago, Bossdog said:

Just wondering if I have missed something.........Has Petracca suddenly played 100 games and is Brownlow favourite whilst I wasn't looking.

I really like the kid but he hasn't played a bloody game yet.   The way some posters around here are pumping up his tyres is just mind boggling.   It reminds me of a certain No1 draft pick we got a few years ago.

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to when he does play but until then he is just another draftee that shows great promise.    

You have many likes, but I must say that I can't say I see the profundity others do.

He is not "just another draftee that shows promise".  

[picket fence 17,500]

So what is the 'Final Team"??

[CHF 2,768]

I could see a number of players at Casey getting a 'light' run this week as we have a short turn around for the Aints game. The selector will use this as a reason to rotate a few players into the team and rotate a few out for a rest. Would expect Patracca and ANB to be good chances to play.