Unless we brought in Rance, Hurley or some other established FB, IMO we just can't afford to lose TMac at this stage of our development.

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Unless we brought in Rance, Hurley or some other established FB, IMO we just can't afford to lose TMac at this stage of our development.

Very much agreed. Would be devastating to our team structure if we lost him.

We have as much chance of getting Rance or Hurley as the Aussies cricketers do this afternoon.

 

We already have an all Australian defender on our list, let's sign him

Just now, Josh said:

We have as much chance of getting Rance or Hurley as the Aussies cricketers do this afternoon.

 

We already have an all Australian defender on our list, let's sign him

I don't think that Hurley or Rance would be of any help to the Aussies this arvo.  

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

We have as much chance of getting Rance or Hurley as the Aussies cricketers do this afternoon.

 

We already have an all Australian defender on our list, let's sign him

But Harry's hardly on the park !! 

If T Mac goes we don't play finals next year. full stop.

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If T Mac goes we don't play finals next year. full stop.

If Tmac is as good as we get, then we'll never play a final, thats true.

22 hours ago, america de cali said:

I have been paying particular attention to Frawley now that he is at Hawthorn. Last season he was wobbly until he shook off the bad habits he had whilst he was here. This season he has made few errors and is now the cornerstone of their defence. The sum total is that we had lost our best key defender and experience we sorely lack because he just was not interested in playing for us.  Losing TMac will be the same loss doubled up. Sure  he makes errors but by appearances it has not stopped elite clubs from having an interest in him because they know his value.  He will be very hard to replace.

No. He wanted to play in a flag. Big difference

On 8/4/2016 at 10:51 PM, Ron Burgundy said:

Okay - happy for you to keep boxing at every rumour-shadow that some 16 year old comes up with on FB each morning. 

 

You must be confusing me with someone else

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

No. He wanted to play in a flag. Big difference

We were not worthy as demonstrated by his half arsed self preservation efforts in his last season with us. He was not interested in us because he wanted to play for a flag chance club.

It's interesting that in discussing key defenders in the competition no one has really mentioned Frawley.

We got a sweet deal for him. Pick 2 or 3 (whichever it was) was a pretty good result for us.

 

56 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

It's interesting that in discussing key defenders in the competition no one has really mentioned Frawley.

We got a sweet deal for him. Pick 2 or 3 (whichever it was) was a pretty good result for us.

 

If he had 'bought in' to our club we would have been better off.

13 minutes ago, america de cali said:

If he had 'bought in' to our club we would have better off.

Don't blame anyone for leaving when Frawley left, we had been a mess for so long.

Now we have built a club that is desirable to be at, we have strong development and improved our on field leadership.. It is not our job to try and convince Tom to stay, we have created a strong club culture and from what I understand have made him an offer which is inline with what the club can afford based on other talent we have.. It is up to Tom what he wants to do. If he goes, then we will bring someone else. It is about structure more than individual talent.

"pass the pen"

If today doesn't prove that McDonald's signature is as important as Hogan's, I don't know what does.

Sign McDonald x 2 and move on. FFS we are [censored] if we lose him!

From what I have heard there have been 6 clubs hotly pursuing Tom this year. In saying that,should be hearing some good news on that front in the coming weeks. As well as Oscy

23 minutes ago, Jaded said:

If today doesn't prove that McDonald's signature is as important as Hogan's, I don't know what does.

Sign McDonald x 2 and move on. FFS we are [censored] if we lose him!

This. He was incredible today - Frost and Oscar coming along really nicely as well.

5 hours ago, america de cali said:

If he had 'bought in' to our club we would have been better off.

Disagree. We could well have taken Brayshaw and left Petracca on the table. Even if we swapped Brayshaw for Frawley, I'd take it every day of the week. We'll be fine.

4 hours ago, SPC said:

Don't blame anyone for leaving when Frawley left, we had been a mess for so long.

Now we have built a club that is desirable to be at, we have strong development and improved our on field leadership.. It is not our job to try and convince Tom to stay, we have created a strong club culture and from what I understand have made him an offer which is inline with what the club can afford based on other talent we have.. It is up to Tom what he wants to do. If he goes, then we will bring someone else. It is about structure more than individual talent.

I actually laugh when I think of Frawley - yeah, sure, he won a cheap flag last year, but they are definitely on the slide.

They'll make the mistake of letting all their aging stars go around next year, will have a pretty average time of it, and will chop them all at the end of next year.

You saw today that Cyril is the only important player they have under 30. Gunston and the rest will be much less effective once they're not getting delivery from Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Gibson and Burgoyne.

They're done, and Frawley will be playing with a rubbish team again. Good luck to him.

7 hours ago, beelzebub said:

If Tmac is as good as we get, then we'll never play a final, thats true.

Usually you are reasonably measured BB, but that is garbage.

Tmac is a very good footballer on the cusp of being an excellent one.

Some clear targets at half back and a bit more maturity, he will be considered elite.

24 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

I actually laugh when I think of Frawley - yeah, sure, he won a cheap flag last year, but they are definitely on the slide.

They'll make the mistake of letting all their aging stars go around next year, will have a pretty average time of it, and will chop them all at the end of next year.

You saw today that Cyril is the only important player they have under 30. Gunston and the rest will be much less effective once they're not getting delivery from Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Gibson and Burgoyne.

They're done, and Frawley will be playing with a rubbish team again. Good luck to him.

Hmm you're making it sound like they are completely cooked. They are still premiership favourites and were a couple clear on top of the ladder after winning a few straight.

They are still a hugely popular destination club and once Hodge/Mitchell/Burgoyne I guarantee they will jag the best available free agents and continue topping up.

No way will they be a "rubbish team" for a fair while to come.... Unfortunately 

If Tom doesn't sign after todays game he never will...

Mitchell hand bagged Watts.

2 weeks but he might get off with a wristy.

49 minutes ago, deeko said:

Hmm you're making it sound like they are completely cooked. They are still premiership favourites and were a couple clear on top of the ladder after winning a few straight.

They are still a hugely popular destination club and once Hodge/Mitchell/Burgoyne I guarantee they will jag the best available free agents and continue topping up.

No way will they be a "rubbish team" for a fair while to come.... Unfortunately 

It will be really interesting, I think.

Often age catches up with players really quickly, and it seems that most of their older brigade are fairly marginal for next year (thinking in particular of Hodge and Burgoyne). Mitchell, Lewis and Gibson only have a year or two left I would think, after those two.

If their old players all crash at the same time, it leaves a big hole. They have a profile like St Kilda and North, in that the older players hold the team together. That's hugely different to teams like GWS, the Dogs and us, where the younger players are the ones pushing through and driving performance.

Anyway, Tom McDonald. Just can't imagine him not signing up to be part of this, and it will be a huge loss if he doesn't.

41 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If Tom doesn't sign after todays game he never will...

Fwiw I thought he played a decent game today. Played to his strengths. Linked quite well. 

Agree SWYL ....either pen to paper orstop the ruse.