10 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

 the players no longer cuts any ice. 

They were using ice as well? And not pure ice at that?

12 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

some reporting saying hird will be interviewed by tracy holmes on abc on sunday night?

Lovely timing DA. 

He gave a non committal statement. 

He left it open for a more complete interview at the end of the week.

How much is this Pr&&OK going to get for this interview.

enough to cover the legal expenses. Or the new book.  Or both, and a Mini Tv  series

I am sure D'Landers can think of some great names. Power and the glory is taken.

14 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Not to mention, "the players were duped" no longer cuts any ice. The players aided and abetted the duping!

I believed Scully and up until reading how the players blatantly lied to asada about not taking taking supplements had sympathy for the players.

Edited January 12, 20169 yr by nutbean

12 minutes ago, ding said:

Reading one of the BF threads and it is absolutely GLORIOUS seeing LanceUppercut flailing around trying to defend his Drug cheating scum of a team.

Arrogance, mixed with denial, topped with desperation. (Oh and its all someone elses fault)

Just glorious .................

Today is a very very good day. 

didn't lance come on here and say if they were found guilty he would (grudgingly) accept it and move on?

24 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Understand where you're coming from, R&B. They have been suspended from playing in games that they have already played.

But the real penalty is not so much the number of months. It is that they have been found guilty at all. They are now officially drug cheats and that will not change. Jobe & his Brownlow. Player lawsuits. Hird's reputation permanently tarnished a la Lance Armstrong. Those things can't be undone, even if it was a 2 week suspension.

Thanks, TF. I see your point. However, Saad and Lees would still feel aggrieved. 

will chip be writing a new book?

11 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:

Lovely timing DA. 

He gave a non committal statement. 

He left it open for a more complete interview at the end of the week.

How much is this Pr&&OK going to get for this interview.

enough to cover the legal expenses. Or the new book.  Or both, and a Mini Tv  series

I am sure D'Landers can think of some great names. Power and the glory is taken.

The Hardy book (and TV series) was Power Without Glory.  Perhaps more appropriate, but title already taken.

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

I completely disagree in relation to "topping up". Essendon should be forced to play the season with a reduced list of 32 rather than have them raid other (VFL) Clubs of their best players. Essendon have not done too bad out of this as:

1) they have off-loaded 22 players so have a far less impact;

2) they have been let off 12 months of their two year ban (due to their farcical 4.5 month voluntary off-season suspension when they continued to train;

3) they have effectively improved their list by trading five players for first and second round draft picks (and transferred the penalty to other Clubs)!

As regards the collateral damage to other Clubs, (Dee's, PA, Saints and Dogs), that is a calculated risk that we each took in relation to our list needs and it will not be the end of the earth if we promote White early than planned. 

Why should Essendon (as a Club) emerge from this with even further reduced penalties? NO WAY Jose!

 

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

will chip be writing a new book?

The Straight Dope - is that an autobiography?

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

didn't lance come on here and say if they were found guilty he would (grudgingly) accept it and move on?

And Lance was such a reasonable fellow. He told us so himself.

2 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The Straight Dope - is that an autobiography?

I thought it was 'The Dope Who Couldn't See Straight' 

9 minutes ago, sue said:

The Hardy book (and TV series) was Power Without Glory.  Perhaps more appropriate, but title already taken.

The Power of Me Myself and I would suit and match the ego.

11 minutes ago, sue said:

The Hardy book (and TV series) was Power Without Glory.  Perhaps more appropriate, but title already taken.

"the power of 1" title has already been taken too, so james will need another for his autobiography

 

1 hour ago, Kumamoto_Ken said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned but there's a special edition of AFL360 on Fox Footy at 7:30 tonight.

Robbo will be even less coherent than usual.

And despite the fact that the first proposition is entirely predictable (as probably is the second), congratulations to Elwood 3184 who told us about it first on Saturday afternoon.

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

Could've been A LOT worse. Essendon have planned a long way out for this. They have been offloading their players for a few years. Opposition teams have been silly enough to pay top value for these players, and Essendon have netted themselves some handy pick ups in the meantime. Well played by the Bombers. Worsfold doesn't have that bad a gig, there is ZERO pressure on him this year, and next year he'll get top picks (assuming there isn't further draft bans) and his original players will return. Probably the easiest of the coaching gigs in 2016 and he'd be getting paid a stack. If that is karma, yes please.

Nothing changes the permanent loss of reputation, moral fibre and integrity.

I truly hope anyone who has doubts about the result of this case read the full findings here:

http://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbitral_Award_WADA_ESSENDON.pdf

They are damning to say the least. 

16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

will chip be writing a new book?

Gotta love Jab's quote!!

will there be new editions written with a new hastily scribed Post Chapter??

never understood why he published when he did. That book is dead now...

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed....

For those so desperate for the club to state the bleeding obvious:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-01-12/club-statement-on-jake-melksham

Been reading some bigfooty. Interesting that some die hard EFC supporters have had an epiphany and are realising that this is real, the players really did take something, the something was a banned substance, and that Hird was at the top of it all.

Anyone else get the feeling this might become a much bigger issue in 10 years time when the players start showing some serious side effects of the experimental drugs and drug combinations.

 

I mean dank thought they were race horses.

On a day when supplements are the main story, this:

Herald Sun ‏@theheraldsun  18m18 minutes ago

Freeze-dried supplements containing human poo are being tested for weight loss http://trib.al/bKGbHh6 

 

 

Just occurred to me.

The scribe ( I cannot remember his name) who was giving the reports with cricket scores.

Seems like his score is bowled first ball.

What a dope!

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Just occurred to me.

The scribe ( I cannot remember his name) who was giving the reports with cricket scores.

Seems like his score is bowled first ball.

What a dope!

Warner.Clean bowled

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Just occurred to me.

The scribe ( I cannot remember his name) who was giving the reports with cricket scores.

Seems like his score is bowled first ball.

What a dope!

Mick Warner, Herald Sun