We had a lot of list turnover in recent years but all indications are it's likely to continue. 2016 is a big year for ..

Jack Watts: OOC Free Agent, likely to be UFA?

Chris Dawes: Last year of an expensive contract?

Heritier Lumumba: Didn't deliver value, contract may provide protection

Jack Trengove: It will be some sort of miracle if he gets back

Ben Newton: There's a lot of competition for spots now

Cam Pedersen: A one year contract

Viv Michie: See Ben Newton

Jay Kennedy-Harris: See Ben Newton

Jayden Hunt: This year it's time to show something

Jack Grimes: See Jack watts

Jake Spencer: Back up ruckman is a precarious role

James Harmes: See Cam Pedersen

Matt Jones: See Ben Newton

Dean Terlich: Only saved this year by his contract

Max King: Must continue to improve

That's 15 players realistically in the gun.

There's been a lot of talk on here recently about how close we're coming to having a great list, but based on those names you provided, there is still a fair bit of deadwood remaining.

While there is obviously still a lot of footy to be played, I think that M. Jones and Terlich are all but guaranteed to be gone.

Spencer/King's statuses will rely on both their own performances as well as the performances of the new big men that we've brought in.

Same goes for Dawes/Pedersen.

I'll avoid commenting on Watts at the risk of turning this into yet another thread about him.

Trengove's future is fully dependent on his foot. I really hope he can make it as he deserves a shot.

At this stage I think that Newton/Harmes have shown enough to make me confident in keeping them on as depth players for the foreseeable future.

Hunt is another who will need an injury-free run at things.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Grimes leave as an RFA for more opportunities if he struggles to establish himself as a member of our best 22.

JKH/Lumumba are safe due to their contracts. I also think that JKH is better than a lot of people give him credit for.

I won't comment on Watts in the hopes that this thread won't turn into another thread about him.

Jack Watts: OOC Free Agent, likely to be UFA? - I've always had the faith with Watts, here's hoping (again) that he can have that "break out" year. But overall wouldn't break my heart if he ventured elsewhere.

Chris Dawes: Last year of an expensive contract? - Thank goodness, free up the money for Hogan.

Heritier Lumumba: Didn't deliver value, contract may provide protection - Contracted to 2017.

Jack Trengove: It will be some sort of miracle if he gets back - Here's hoping he can come back and be the AFL player we once hoped.

Ben Newton: There's a lot of competition for spots now - He needs to step it up or his head will be on the chopping block.

Cam Pedersen: A one year contract - Pedersen vs. Dawes.

Viv Michie: See Ben Newton

Jay Kennedy-Harris: See Ben Newton - Was the flavour of the month at one point, I'm still and fan and would love to see more.

Jayden Hunt: This year it's time to show something - He can only play at the VFL level for so long, needs to show something or he'll be cut. Hopefully he can have an injury free run.

Jack Grimes: See Jack watts - I've been patient with Grimes so far, it will be his do or die year.

Jake Spencer: Back up ruckman is a precarious role - At this stage he's required on the basis if anything was to happen to Gawn. But he does need to improve his game considerably.

James Harmes: See Cam Pedersen - The glimpses shown by Harmes this year were impressive, I hope we see more.

Matt Jones: See Ben Newton - Youngsters looking to overtake, I doubt he'll make the cut.

Dean Terlich: Only saved this year by his contract - I doubt he'll make the cut.

Max King: Must continue to improve - He can only play at the VFL level for so long, needs to show something or he'll be cut.

Signing Jessie Hogan long-term, based on our improved ladder position.

Dawes.

I can't see him getting a decent new contract. Pedo offered more than him last year both in rucking and scoring before doing his wrist.

With Weideman now on the list, who I think will get half a season worth of games in preparation for 2017, Dawes might be offered a one year deal for a bit of depth.

Dawes gone.

Grimes gone.

I think it is a big year for our development coaches McCartney and Goodwin. They have got a large pool of talent at their disposal. We need a whole bunch of players go up a level to show they can be a part of the Clubs future e.g Hunt, Max King, Newton, Michie, Kent, Harmes, Watts

Jack Watts: OOC Free Agent, likely to be UFA? - I've always had the faith with Watts, here's hoping (again) that he can have that "break out" year. But overall wouldn't break my heart if he ventured elsewhere.

Chris Dawes: Last year of an expensive contract? - Thank goodness, free up the money for Hogan.

Heritier Lumumba: Didn't deliver value, contract may provide protection - Contracted to 2017.

Jack Trengove: It will be some sort of miracle if he gets back - Here's hoping he can come back and be the AFL player we once hoped.

Ben Newton: There's a lot of competition for spots now - He needs to step it up or his head will be on the chopping block.

Cam Pedersen: A one year contract - Pedersen vs. Dawes.

Viv Michie: See Ben Newton

Jay Kennedy-Harris: See Ben Newton - Was the flavour of the month at one point, I'm still and fan and would love to see more.

Jayden Hunt: This year it's time to show something - He can only play at the VFL level for so long, needs to show something or he'll be cut. Hopefully he can have an injury free run.

Jack Grimes: See Jack watts - I've been patient with Grimes so far, it will be his do or die year.

Jake Spencer: Back up ruckman is a precarious role - At this stage he's required on the basis if anything was to happen to Gawn. But he does need to improve his game considerably.

James Harmes: See Cam Pedersen - The glimpses shown by Harmes this year were impressive, I hope we see more.

Matt Jones: See Ben Newton - Youngsters looking to overtake, I doubt he'll make the cut.

Dean Terlich: Only saved this year by his contract - I doubt he'll make the cut.

Max King: Must continue to improve - He can only play at the VFL level for so long, needs to show something or he'll be cut.

this ^^^^

Paul Roos.

We have to show more for him to hang his hat on something.

Paul Roos.

We have to show more for him to hang his hat on something.

The true worth of what Roos has done for this club probably won't be seen until after he is gone.

Hoping I'm wrong.

We had a lot of list turnover in recent years but all indications are it's likely to continue. 2016 is a big year for ..

Jack Watts: OOC Free Agent, likely to be UFA?

Didn't Watts sign a 3 year deal at the start of 2015?

Josh Mahoney.

- Managed the trade period exceptionally well, but the final judgment of it will be made based on the success of our top 10 picks and our win loss record when it comes to next year's draft

- Has a few big contract issues to sort out. Watts, Dawes & Hogan lead that category

- Will be the consistent figure as the club handles the Roos/Goodwin transition

- Is the key figure in our attempts to finally lure a "big fish" next year (Prestia or O'Meara would be the most obvious targets)

- Will possibly be leading a review of Misson and his crew

Jack Grimes: See Jack watts - I've been patient with Grimes so far, it will be his do or die year.

Not sure why they don't use Grimes in a lock down role and free up Bernie. Grimes is super fit and can defend. Could be a Crowley...

Love his commitment, its just his disposal tthat has to be fixed..

Jack Trengove, massive year for him if you ask me. Fingers are crossed he can make it back but I'm fairly realistic with this one.

Grimes won't be done as an AFL player post-2016. The question will be whether or not he plays for the MFC, should he find himself falling down the pecking order.

He's frustrated over the years but I hope he sticks around. There's something to be said for players who absolutely bleed red and blue, and he's a credit to himself and the club in everything he does.

He showed some positive signs last season. Just needs to build on that and take his opportunities.

Trengove. 100% his make or break season

Didn't Watts sign a 3 year deal at the start of 2015?

I thought he signed a 3 year deal when Roos was first appointed

Not sure why they don't use Grimes in a lock down role and free up Bernie. Grimes is super fit and can defend. Could be a Crowley...

Love his commitment, its just his disposal tthat has to be fixed..

You just answered your own question.

Freo worked out that there better off without a Crowley.

The whole club.

If we have a poor year, the veil of negativity will be upon us in a horribly big way.

Not sure why they don't use Grimes in a lock down role and free up Bernie. Grimes is super fit and can defend. Could be a Crowley...

Love his commitment, its just his disposal tthat has to be fixed..

Grimes won't be done as an AFL player post-2016. The question will be whether or not he plays for the MFC, should he find himself falling down the pecking order.

He's frustrated over the years but I hope he sticks around. There's something to be said for players who absolutely bleed red and blue, and he's a credit to himself and the club in everything he does.

He showed some positive signs last season. Just needs to build on that and take his opportunities.

Good call on Grimes playing that role.

I feel he makes too many mistakes from a skill perspective that seem to always result in turnovers but he's such a great reader of the play from that half back line.

Not sure why they don't use Grimes in a lock down role and free up Bernie. Grimes is super fit and can defend. Could be a Crowley...

Love his commitment, its just his disposal tthat has to be fixed..

I don't reckon he has the agro to be a lock down player, and (as evidenced by Crowley) the era of the pure tagger is seemingly over.

2016 is a big year for me. I have to make one thoughtful, considered, relevant, meaningful contribution to one forum. One, at least one, then I will feel I'm pulling my weight.

I'm not Robinson Crusoe on that score though!!!!

There's been a lot of talk on here recently about how close we're coming to having a great list, but based on those names you provided, there is still a fair bit of deadwood remaining.

While there is obviously still a lot of footy to be played, I think that M. Jones and Terlich are all but guaranteed to be gone.

Spencer/King's statuses will rely on both their own performances as well as the performances of the new big men that we've brought in.

Same goes for Dawes/Pedersen.

I'll avoid commenting on Watts at the risk of turning this into yet another thread about him.

Trengove's future is fully dependent on his foot. I really hope he can make it as he deserves a shot.

At this stage I think that Newton/Harmes have shown enough to make me confident in keeping them on as depth players for the foreseeable future.

Hunt is another who will need an injury-free run at things.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Grimes leave as an RFA for more opportunities if he struggles to establish himself as a member of our best 22.

JKH/Lumumba are safe due to their contracts. I also think that JKH is better than a lot of people give him credit for.

I won't comment on Watts in the hopes that this thread won't turn into another thread about him.

names don't make great footy lists GTG. great footballers make those lists great

currently we have a list full of names of potential. the big p

these boys have to learn, & then show they can cut it; then they have to show how far they can go in their games.

the list doesn't maketh the man.

Edited November 29, 20159 yr by dee-luded

I don't reckon he has the agro to be a lock down player, and (as evidenced by Crowley) the era of the pure tagger is seemingly over.

Yes, Grimes has courage but little physical presence in the way that Salem, Jetta or Milkshake have. He needs to be able to rebound more effectively, particularly with decision making and delivery. His speed is not great either.

Not sure why they don't use Grimes in a lock down role and free up Bernie. Grimes is super fit and can defend. Could be a Crowley...

Love his commitment, its just his disposal tthat has to be fixed..

He doesn't read the play or move well enough in close to be a midfield tagger. His best attributes are his work rate and run and so it's either half back or wing for him.

Besides not being a great kick his biggest issue has been that he's just too slow of mind to work his way out of trouble and doesn't have physical gifts to break tackles or evade them.

He looks stronger and fitter this year, but if he can't get back to the tempo of AFL footy then I think his career will be over. Not many clubs will want him if we discard him.