On 08/10/2015 at 03:39, ProDee said:

Don't want Casboult. Not only can't he kick, but a more agile tall like Gunston or Stringer is the go.

Not trying to be a smartarse but are there any like that available?

If so, I agree. If not, I reckon Casboult would offer more than Dawes currently does.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:39, ProDee said:

Don't want Casboult. Not only can't he kick, but a more agile tall like Gunston or Stringer is the go.

Aren't we waiting for Watts to play the Gunston role? Whilst a lead up forward who can mark would be nice, I don't want Hogan being the sole crash and bash player in our forward line. Casboult can do this and relief ruck.

As an aside, I'm not convinced with Frost as a forward. His kicking is on a par with Casboult, and he's not as good a mark.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:45, mo64 said:

Aren't we waiting for Watts to play the Gunston role?

Hell has frozen over.

I know it's not Trade Radio but Josh Mahoney will be on SEN at 4:25pm. He'll probably go over the same stuff without any real updates but would still be worth a listen.

If anyone can listen in and give a quick wrap of what he say for those of us, like myself, who can't listen in then that would be greatly appreciated.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:39, ProDee said:

Don't want Casboult. Not only can't he kick, but a more agile tall like Gunston or Stringer is the go.

This.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:41, Choke said:

Not trying to be a smartarse but are there any like that available?

If so, I agree. If not, I reckon Casboult would offer more than Dawes currently does.

Dunno. Tom Lynch from Adelaide would have been nice.

Petracca will help our forward line next year.

We tried Dunn forward in round 23 against GWS. It will be interesting to see where he trains over summer. He might make a better fist of the forward-line with lots more experience under his belt and a player like Hogan up there. Frost, McDonald boys and Garland can release Dunn forward. I'm not averse to the idea.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:39, ProDee said:

Don't want Casboult. Not only can't he kick, but a more agile tall like Gunston or Stringer is the go.

im no dyed in the wool fan. Rather ambivalent about Levi. But 'can't kick' simply isn't correct . Hes an average to slightly better kicker of the ball. He's a halfway decent mark who's hands make Dawes' look like iron mitts. A criticism of Levi is a bif of a reminiscence of some of our own bygone Demons in so much as can be which Casboult turns up to play. He can vague in and out of games. He seems to have made some ammends to this but im not an avid watcher.

He can present and knows the locale of the 2 big ones. Hes a poor mans KPF.

That might be sufficient as a foil for Jesse.

If they looked at Levi the future of Dawes and Pedo is determined.

Great mark, crap on the ground and a poor set shot. No thanks.

A liability in the forward line with the way footy is now played.

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:02, ProDee said:

Great mark, crap on the ground and a poor set shot. No thanks.

A liability in the forward line with the way footy is now played.

...and that's the point right there.

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:02, ProDee said:

Great mark, crap on the ground and a poor set shot. No thanks.

A liability in the forward line with the way footy is now played.

39 - 23 in last 2 years. Hows that a poor set shot ?

  On 07/10/2015 at 22:48, beelzebub said:

It's all in reality bullshlt though. Bout as real as Essendons coaches interviews

Sure ..... they were determined to get a fully qualified pharmacist this time instead of a fully qualified narcissist

  On 08/10/2015 at 00:56, rjay said:

I would think we need a runner in that CHF slot, someone who can & will cover a lot of ground and have the smarts to leave plenty of space for Hogan to work in.

I'm not so sure about the pressing need for the ruck/forward role as much now with the sub going but less rotations may mean 4 mids on the bench so it could still be a priority. I guess time will tell, it's going to be interesting to see how that one evolves.

Petracca, Trengove and if we go to the draft either Curnow or Balic will provide good marking power forward next year. We need to find that other key forward or forward/ruck...

Does / can / will Casboukt ruck? We know he can mark

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  On 08/10/2015 at 03:37, stevethemanjordan said:

He's had a fairly interrupted start to his career because of injuries and like Salem showed glimpses in his first year when used predominately as a sub.

He's actually had some really solid games in the VFL so I'm not sure why you say that.

I agree that we have a handful of guys who play that half-forward role who we're trying to develop. But given his height, speed and kicking, I think he could also be given a role on a back flank.

Beggars can't be choosers.

We are a club who can't attract stars of the game yet. Lennon is seriously talented and we need talent at our club.

All this "he" can be confusing in a complex thread -- are you referring to Frost?

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:41, Choke said:

Not trying to be a smartarse but are there any like that available?

If so, I agree. If not, I reckon Casboult would offer more than Dawes currently does.

Any like what? Running ruck forwards?

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:37, stevethemanjordan said:

He's had a fairly interrupted start to his career because of injuries and like Salem showed glimpses in his first year when used predominately as a sub.

He's actually had some really solid games in the VFL so I'm not sure why you say that.

I agree that we have a handful of guys who play that half-forward role who we're trying to develop. But given his height, speed and kicking, I think he could also be given a role on a back flank.

Beggars can't be choosers.

We are a club who can't attract stars of the game yet. Lennon is seriously talented and we need talent at our club.

Yeah he had a couple of VFL games where he hit the scoreboard, but he just flashes in and out of games. He will have a moment of brilliance and than go missing for a whole quarter, like Howe. I have gotten to the stage where I want players who will themselves to contest after contest. Players always make their presence felt even if they are having an off day. I don't see that desperation to be involved in Lennon

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:28, monoccular said:

Sure ..... they were determined to get a fully qualified pharmacist this time instead of a fully qualified narcissist

Nice work.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:08, Pennant St Dee said:

Disagree was finally looking like he belonged in the lead up to the finals and IMO cemented his place in their best 22. Certainly put together a good run of games let alone 4 good quarters, Dimmer dropping him for the final certainly backfired

Begs the question then why does a second year player crack the shizens at being dropped for a final.

Fair front on Lennon's behalf.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:51, ProDee said:

Dunno. Tom Lynch from Adelaide would have been nice.

Petracca will help our forward line next year.

We tried Dunn forward in round 23 against GWS. It will be interesting to see where he trains over summer. He might make a better fist of the forward-line with lots more experience under his belt and a player like Hogan up there. Frost, McDonald boys and Garland can release Dunn forward. I'm not averse to the idea.

Alternatively, Tom Mac. Has the pace and durability to run any defender off their feet and can take a grab. The biggest question mark is ball use, though given the way that defenders are required to attack now, I can't see that being any more of an issue than it is as defender.

Casboult's kicking from set shots did seem to improve towards the end of the year. Introduced a more consistent routine with a lower ball drop.

Still pretty ordinary though, especially once the ball hits the ground, and at 26 next year he's older than I thought.

  On 07/10/2015 at 22:36, beelzebub said:

i think you're a tad late for dinner.

anything out of the mouth's of E'd or carltank, is fowlish, blzb.

now how can we carve a slice of [4 'n' 20] ; or of the bluebaguels ?

or will the hawks swoop in & carve the blues a new one, before us?

  On 07/10/2015 at 22:30, Mickey said:

Revealed yesterday.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-07/revealed-what-it-takes-to-earn-firstround-free-agency-compensation-

The AFL are a corrupt joke of an organisation. Seriously when will clubs say enough is enough and start holding them to account? I know the media would never do it as they would be ostracised and have their credentials/access revoked.

  On 08/10/2015 at 03:45, mo64 said:

Aren't we waiting for Watts to play the Gunston role? Whilst a lead up forward who can mark would be nice, I don't want Hogan being the sole crash and bash player in our forward line. Casboult can do this and relief ruck.

As an aside, I'm not convinced with Frost as a forward. His kicking is on a par with Casboult, and he's not as good a mark.

This

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:18, beelzebub said:

39 - 23 in last 2 years. Hows that a poor set shot ?

That doesn't include shots that end up out on the full...

Not a joke, I think there would be plenty.

  On 08/10/2015 at 02:15, Norm Smith said:

For what its worth i have reasonable mail that he may be open to a move.

I can't see how he could play with Dawes but to be honest I would rather we had Levi. He is a brilliant mark and perhaps limited in other ways but he and hogan would be an intimidating double act that would really stretch most defenses. Does he ever ruck?

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:59, binman said:

I can't see how he could play with Dawes but to be honest I would rather we had Levi. He is a brilliant mark and perhaps limited in other ways but he and hogan would be an intimidating double act that would really stretch most defenses. Does he ever ruck?

he started off as a ruck when younger. He could possibly be brought up to speed somewhat to pinch hit.

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:46, P-man said:

Casboult's kicking from set shots did seem to improve towards the end of the year. Introduced a more consistent routine with a lower ball drop.

Still pretty ordinary though, especially once the ball hits the ground, and at 26 next year he's older than I thought.

and he averages <10 disposals with 5+ marks, which means apart from the big grabs he doesn't do much else for the rest of the game

i do like his marking though and his goalkick in 2015 was running at 67% (24:12)

  On 08/10/2015 at 05:12, daisycutter said:

and he averages <10 disposals with 5+ marks, which means apart from the big grabs he doesn't do much else for the rest of the game

i do like his marking though and his goalkick in 2015 was running at 67% (24:12)

That would be my concern is exactly how he and Hogan would compliment one another.

Re his accuracy, as Monde mentioned that doesn't include out on the fulls. He'd have quite a few of them.

  On 08/10/2015 at 04:02, ProDee said:

Great mark, crap on the ground and a poor set shot. No thanks.

A liability in the forward line with the way footy is now played.

A forward that can mark but cant kick a set shot a liability? Well I guess we already have one of those but id prefer that to a forward who not only cannot mark but rarely creates a contest that goes to our advantage.