Jack Watts may never be an inside midfielder but he's a beautiful finisher and in some ways a good competitor. Give him a break.

With the added insight grunt to feed him and better targets to hit, is 2016 going to be the year that Jack's assets really start to shine through?

Jack Watts may never be an inside midfielder but he's a beautiful finisher and in some ways a good competitor. Give him a break.

You know, when anyone ever stands up to me re Watts the only thing they ever say is that "he's a beautiful finisher". And I mean the "only".

Here we are drafting a 196 cm tall to partner Hogan and we drafted one in 2008.

He can't even be our Jack Gunston and kick at least 35 goals. No, this beautiful "finisher" finished with 10.

It's beyond a joke.

You know, when anyone ever stands up to me re Watts the only thing they ever say is that "he's a beautiful finisher". And I mean the "only".

Here we are drafting a 196 cm tall to partner Hogan and we drafted one in 2008.

He can't even be our Jack Gunston and kick at least 35 goals. No, this beautiful "finisher" finished with 10.

It's beyond a joke.

It is. And you've clearly given up on him as have most of the posters I respect around here. And the impression from the Footy Dept, if you believe the rumours of him being shopped around, is that they've basically given up too. Yet people like me still have hope. Do you think he'll even be named in our round 1 team or has a line already been drawn through his name - "only select in case of injury to others"? The hope I guess, is based on the view that he showed signs of working harder without the ball and taking the game on more with his pace for a period of 4 or 5 after he was given a second chance this year. The hope is also based on the belief that the natural improvement we're expecting across the board should benefit a player like Watts who we consider to be more the cream than the substance. With Hogan and another key tall (Pederson, Dawes, Weideman, whoever...) plus Petracca and vandenBerg as well as Garlett, there appears to be a role for someone with his skill set. The question of course is whether we can compromise our team values to include someone who has so routinely failed to compete. My simple thinking is that he has been loyal to us. He signed when he could have gone elsewhere. He's contracted for this year and therefore if he has a good pre-season and plays to the level he did in the middle of this year, he is at least deserving of a chance at the start of season. And for some reason, with very little evidence to date, I feel like he'll take that chance. Can anyone offer anything more substantial and tangible in their defence of Watts?

In regards Weideman, I like the way he moves and I like the way he links up with team mates. And I like key position players who can snap goals on their non-preferred side! Seems to have good vision (like Hogan) when high up the ground but also a strong presence when the target deep. You can easily imagine the two rotating between FF and CHF.

It is. And you've clearly given up on him as have most of the posters I respect around here. And the impression from the Footy Dept, if you believe the rumours of him being shopped around, is that they've basically given up too. Yet people like me still have hope. Do you think he'll even be named in our round 1 team or has a line already been drawn through his name - "only select in case of injury to others"?

Jack Watts

You know, when anyone ever stands up to me re Watts the only thing they ever say is that "he's a beautiful finisher". And I mean the "only".

Here we are drafting a 196 cm tall to partner Hogan and we drafted one in 2008.

He can't even be our Jack Gunston and kick at least 35 goals. No, this beautiful "finisher" finished with 10.

It's beyond a joke.

I'd be happy if he kicked 25 goals, and 20 of them were from joe the goose handballs. Newton kicked 11 goals in 11 games from limited opportunities. Might be a better option in the forward line than Watts.

Even the sole Sam Wiedeman thread, a player we drafted less than 48 hours ago, is hijacked to become another Jack Watts thread.

Thank God we didn't do this with Hogan and Weideman. Felt forced and unnatural.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-26/when-dys-called-darce

Even the sole Sam Wiedeman thread, a player we drafted less than 48 hours ago, is hijacked to become another Jack Watts thread.

I think Pro Dee is trying to clarify his position on Jack which in the past has been a little equivocal. I'm glad because I now think I have a handle on where he stands. Some might have understood it earlier than me for which I congratulate them.

Me, now I'm clear so hopefully we can get back to Sam.

Thank God we didn't do this with Hogan and Weideman. Felt forced and unnatural.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-26/when-dys-called-darce

Nah that wasn't too bad. Better than the St Kilda one I heard last year.

I was surprised at how wide his shoulders were when I saw the pic of him next to Roos.

After seeing the pic of him and Oliver I thought he was thin, but the pic with Roos shows both are wide across the shoulders.

Even the sole Sam Wiedeman thread, a player we drafted less than 48 hours ago, is hijacked to become another Jack Watts thread.

Same are quite obsessed with number 4...

Thank God we didn't do this with Hogan and Weideman. Felt forced and unnatural.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-26/when-dys-called-darce

Nothing wrong with these sensitive new age footballers discussing hair do's and how to maintain their blond tips.

Has won Brownlows for people in the past.

You know, when anyone ever stands up to me re Watts the only thing they ever say is that "he's a beautiful finisher". And I mean the "only".

Here we are drafting a 196 cm tall to partner Hogan and we drafted one in 2008.

He can't even be our Jack Gunston and kick at least 35 goals. No, this beautiful "finisher" finished with 10.

It's beyond a joke.

FMD we all can see that JW is not good enough so be it he tried his best and failed it's not his fault as they say build a bridge and do us all a favour and jump off it, I feel sorry for JW I can't believe a kid that young can cop that kind of critisism and walk out the other side a better person he's worth 1000 of you.

Nothing wrong with these sensitive new age footballers discussing hair do's and how to maintain their blond tips.

Has won Brownlows for people in the past.

nice nick hp3

watched 2 games he played this year, he's no Jesse Hogan, but he's a great contested mark, takes the ball at it's highest point, he's very smart with his leads and no doubt will learn alot from Dawes about this, and he's a lovely set shot at goal, makes the most of his chances

Hogan and Weiderman could be like having Carey and Lloyd in the same forward line

no one is...well almost no one.

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FMD we all can see that JW is not good enough so be it he tried his best and failed it's not his fault as they say build a bridge and do us all a favour and jump off it, I feel sorry for JW I can't believe a kid that young can cop that kind of critisism and walk out the other side a better person he's worth 1000 of you.

FMD, we can all see that JW isn't good enough. So be it. He tried his best and failed. It's not his fault. As they say, build a bridge and do us all a favour and jump off it. I feel sorry for JW. I can't believe a kid that young can cop that kind of criticism and walk out the other side a better person. He's worth 1,000 of you.

Btw, what criticism are you referring to ? Just a couple of quotes will suffice, so I know what not to say next time. I respect the fact you're so invested in my opinion.

With the added insight grunt to feed him and better targets to hit, is 2016 going to be the year that Jack's assets really start to shine through?

NO

no one is...well almost no one.

Would you play this bloke in the goal square or allow him to chase a kick?

Would you play this bloke in the goal square or allow him to chase a kick?

depends if it was wet or dry. Stories be told that he is pretty good on water/in the wet.

depends if it was wet or dry. Stories be told that he is pretty good on water/in the wet.

Yeah heard that too. Reckon you'd be in deep [censored] if you didn't honour his lead.

Yeah heard that too. Reckon you'd be in deep [censored] if you didn't honour his lead.

dunno...am sure he'd forgive you

dunno...am sure he'd forgive you

Probably there would be a penance involved. Jolly good flogging I suppose.

Oddly enough i'm encouraged by Trengoves progress. Whether he makes it back entirely or not they seem to have done some good work on his behalf. Pertracca's rehabilitation seems to be going well. This to me indicates they (club) understands the injuries and recovery chances.

Weideman's prognosis must be quite good to draft him with all this in mind.

Back on topic, it will be nice to finally have talls who fly for the ball with "elite courage"

Makes the mids much more confident to take a bailout long kick, when they have something to kick to.

I hope this guy develops as a top ten pick should.

Back on topic, it will be nice to finally have talls who fly for the ball with "elite courage"

Makes the mids much more confident to take a bailout long kick, when they have something to kick to.

I hope this guy develops as a top ten pick should.

I just hope he develops quickly and we don't have to wait another 2-6 years to c it.