jacey 333 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 And didn't Watts start his career at 75-80kg? Jack Watts 2008 draft. Height:196cm Weight: 85kg Position: Key Forward Team: Sandringham Dragons Jack got up to 91kgs a few years ago but stripped off some weight to play mid/wing. SAm looks to attack at the ball in the air or looks in control in marking contests. Time will tell if he is better then Ben Griffiths. 1 Quote
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 To my way of thinking I reckon Weideman going to D's could have been a prearranged strategy in that this bloke has in one stroke alleviated a ton of pressure from himself, his family and the football public. The pressure on this bloke to perform would have been, behind the scenes, extraordinary, and I extend to everyone connected with this decision in football's extended family that he's probably now got a good chance of being a quite successful player in the AFL and with Melbourne. Collingwood's first pick was #32! No chance they were ever getting anywhere near the Weed 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 "Pre arranged strategy" could have been the wrong terminology perhaps "divine intervention" more appropriate Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Collingwood's first pick was #32! No chance they were ever getting anywhere near the Weed Especially after trading their pick 7 to GWS... Quote
ILLDieADemon 804 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) He needs a year at Casey to significantly build his size? Ok, as it currently stands... Hogan: 195cm 97kg Weideman: 196cm 94kg Watts: 196cm 88kg And I agree he needs to work on his motor but on that note it'd be interesting to find out what 2015 Dawes can do in a beep test. Anyone know? He's actually a pretty big boy. I was looking through all the sizes of the guys on the MFC app and Sam is 2cm taller and 1kg bigger then Sam Frost and He's a man mountain. Give him a pre season on an AFL program and he should put on another couple more KGs, CP5 weighs the same but is 10cm shorter then him, what a tank!! Edited November 26, 2015 by ILLDieADemon Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 His actually a pretty big boy. I was look through all the sizes of the guys on the MFC app and Sam is 2cm taller and 1kg bigger then Sam Frost and His a man mountain. Give him a pre season on an AFL program and he should put on another couple more KGs, CP5 weighs the same but is 10cm shorter then him, what a tank!! It's "he's". 10 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 It's "he's". This his biz is slipping in all over the place now 'Clint', not really that fond of the idea. 4 Quote
hells bells 2,023 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Spoke to a colleague at work who is good mates with a guy within the coaching/management team at Eastern Ranges and his mate had seen Tom Boyd and Jon Patton come through and thought that Sam Weideman was easily the best talent of the 3 and that once over the injuries would be an absolute gun. 11 Quote
Good Times Grimes 2,396 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Spoke to a colleague at work who is good mates with a guy within the coaching/management team at Eastern Ranges and his mate had seen Tom Boyd and Jon Patton come through and thought that Sam Weideman was easily the best talent of the 3 and that once over the injuries would be an absolute gun. That's the only concern for me, really. 1 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Spoke to a colleague at work who is good mates with a guy within the coaching/management team at Eastern Ranges and his mate had seen Tom Boyd and Jon Patton come through and thought that Sam Weideman was easily the best talent of the 3 and that once over the injuries would be an absolute gun. Seems the biggest query is on his tank which would make sense considering his ankle issues. Get the ankles right then work on his stamina over the next 12-18 months and I've got a good feeling about this kid. The other thing to keep in mind is that he won't be the number one option in our forward line as long as Hogan's around which will give him greater capacity to exploit defenses once he gets his aerobic capacity up and gets more strength and muscle definition. Quote
ILLDieADemon 804 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) It's a recent phenomenon.Not only can I discuss topics of interest with other MFC fans but I also learn how to use English grammar the right way.Thanks Demonlanders Edited November 25, 2015 by ILLDieADemon 2 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 That's the only concern for me, really.not alone Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Not only can I discuss topics of interest with other MFC fans but I also learn how to use English grammar the right way. Thanks Demonlanders I don't wish to seem unkind, but some of us are truly (truely is another one) staggered that so many younger people use "his" instead of "he's". It's embarrassing. 3 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Good article here http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-melbourne-building-potent-attack-with-addition-of-sam-weideman/news-story/238e4cf7eab74c57ef7452aeb1d4743e 1 Quote
Matt Demon 1,597 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Good article here http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-melbourne-building-potent-attack-with-addition-of-sam-weideman/news-story/238e4cf7eab74c57ef7452aeb1d4743e I don't have a HS subscription Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Seems the biggest query is on his tank which would make sense considering his ankle issues. Get the ankles right then work on his stamina over the next 12-18 months and I've got a good feeling about this kid. The other thing to keep in mind is that he won't be the number one option in our forward line as long as Hogan's around which will give him greater capacity to exploit defenses once he gets his aerobic capacity up and gets more strength and muscle definition. Pippen and Jordan like. Quote
Mt. Dee-Maaan 608 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) If your contributions are illiterate then they have less value. If your aim is to communicate use the language correctly, if not put up with being corrected. Use English or suffer the consequences. Just sayin! *just sayin'! i didn't join demonland to get spelling and grammar lessons from people that make mistakes in their own posts.. it's a freaking footy forum, relax guys! let's get back to talking weideman! Edited November 25, 2015 by Rocky 2 Quote
ManDee 7,395 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 *just sayin'! i didn't join demonland to get spelling and grammar lessons from people that make mistakes in their own posts.. it's a freaking footy forum, relax guys! That was put there just for you. Irony is lost on some. Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I don't have a HS subscription Right clink on the link and select copy. Then google the link in a new tab. Click first drop down suggestion and the article should open. It has for me. 3 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 This comment from Roos sums up the NEW Melbourne being built : “There are some non-negotiables now for kids coming in. You give yourself a better chance if you are a competitor,’’ he said. A team full of competitors WILL compete.. How did we not see this over the years 3 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 This comment from Roos sums up the NEW Melbourne being built : “There are some non-negotiables now for kids coming in. You give yourself a better chance if you are a competitor,’’ he said. A team full of competitors WILL compete.. How did we not see this over the years Every person in the club from the President to the water boy knows Watts isn't a competitor. The fact that Roos keeps using the term just reinforces why Tiptoes will hardly get a game next year. 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Having heard this week that Grandpa Weideman and our Barassi are great mates reminds me of the 50 year GF celebration the players had at the Bentleigh Club last year. When the GF players were on the stage reminiscing I recall one (Brian Dixon, maybe) saying the GF he remembers the most was the one we lost in 1958!! The players are still livid about that. So I would love to be a fly on the wall when Grandpa Weideman and Barassi get together for a few beers! Quote
Axis of Bob 11,945 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 If you get a chance, do yourself a favour and watch the first quarter of the AFL Academy vs Northern Blues match from the beginning of the year. Wiedeman plays at CHF and is the dominant big man of the ground, taking 5 marks and kicking 2 goals. He could probably have grabbed another one or two with better delivery. What stands out is that he marks the ball in a range of ways; he's not just a lead and mark player or a body on body player. Instead, he took marks leading straight up at the kicker, marks bending his lead to space, jumping over the top of players, in a one-on-one push and shove, and pushing back hard into an opponent to mark in front. It makes it much more difficult to defend because you can't just play him one way, but you have to protect a range of options. He'll need to build up his running significantly, but he was supposedly in the top couple of runners at Eastern a few years ago, so I suspect he has at least some natural endurance to him. But if he can get his running up then he could be very dangerous with Hogan, because they are both players who can beat you in a number of different ways. Both players will need a multi-talented key defender to look after them. 5 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 If you get a chance, do yourself a favour and watch the first quarter of the AFL Academy vs Northern Blues match from the beginning of the year. Wiedeman plays at CHF and is the dominant big man of the ground, taking 5 marks and kicking 2 goals. He could probably have grabbed another one or two with better delivery. What stands out is that he marks the ball in a range of ways; he's not just a lead and mark player or a body on body player. Instead, he took marks leading straight up at the kicker, marks bending his lead to space, jumping over the top of players, in a one-on-one push and shove, and pushing back hard into an opponent to mark in front. It makes it much more difficult to defend because you can't just play him one way, but you have to protect a range of options. He'll need to build up his running significantly, but he was supposedly in the top couple of runners at Eastern a few years ago, so I suspect he has at least some natural endurance to him. But if he can get his running up then he could be very dangerous with Hogan, because they are both players who can beat you in a number of different ways. Both players will need a multi-talented key defender to look after them. thanks A of B , a good watch hell he's got a longer run in that Lillee !! Quote
Deefender 254 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Jack Watts may never be an inside midfielder but he's a beautiful finisher and in some ways a good competitor. Give him a break. 5 Quote
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