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So you agree its nature is speculative..

Who wouldn't ?

Or did you think your draft pick came with a gift wrapped rolled gold guarantee ?

 

So you agree its nature is speculative..

Id put it that taking two mids wouldnt be. And recruiters are paid to recruit...not gamble

but the point is that recruiting IS a gamble, albeit an educated one.

So you agree its nature is speculative..

Id put it that taking two mids wouldnt be. And recruiters are paid to recruit...not gamble

Picking a teenager in a draft is always going to be somewhat speculative 'bb' regardless of the position they play.

The 2 we pick could be the next Silvia and Tambling...

 

Picking a teenager in a draft is always going to be somewhat speculative 'bb' regardless of the position they play.

The 2 we pick could be the next Silvia and Tambling...

Ah sheeeeit.. I was thinking positively, till you brought this up!!

Picking a teenager in a draft is always going to be somewhat speculative 'bb' regardless of the position they play.

The 2 we pick could be the next Silvia and Tambling...

yes...indeed but where my train of thought goes is as part of any risk minimising youd steer towards factors/elements/ 'knowns" that will hopefully provide a decent footballer. Whre , iimho you DONT go with early picks is to players where things are 'suss" .

A classic recent case in point.. dare I say it Toumpas.. He had ability but big clouds re body being A1.. Why go there with early pick....its a crap shoot for sure then. Especially when better credentialed I.e able to walk run chew and kick footies all at same time were available.

Here we have 'Weed" he might be a gem... he might be nobbled. Do you really play a trump against a low hand ? ( might need understanding of 500 or whist there lol )

3 and 7 arent for dallying with


He wasn't training at Tullamarine, so I guess he probably tested negative. :-)

Back to topic, I doubt if the new MFC will leak anything about his physical - we will know when we hear a name called out at our pick, and not before.

Well, Corowa, I think it is widely known that he barracked for Ninthmond, though if he is ok and if we pick him and if he p reforms I will not hold that against him...much.

Hey? The results were released on the AFL website.

Hey? The results were released on the AFL website.

think he might mean the physical checkup by doctor (medical)

Picking a teenager in a draft is always going to be somewhat speculative 'bb' regardless of the position they play.

The 2 we pick could be the next Silvia and Tambling...

This is where behaviour, character and attitude take precedence over pure talent at this early point of the draft.

 

yes...indeed but where my train of thought goes is as part of any risk minimising youd steer towards factors/elements/ 'knowns" that will hopefully provide a decent footballer. Whre , iimho you DONT go with early picks is to players where things are 'suss" .

A classic recent case in point.. dare I say it Toumpas.. He had ability but big clouds re body being A1.. Why go there with early pick....its a crap shoot for sure then. Especially when better credentialed I.e able to walk run chew and kick footies all at same time were available.

Here we have 'Weed" he might be a gem... he might be nobbled. Do you really play a trump against a low hand ? ( might need understanding of 500 or whist there lol )

3 and 7 arent for dallying with

...but then you might risk missing a Judd or a Selwood.

I don't think we should take unnecessary risks, it's why I thought we should have stayed clear of Bennell but if they are the cream of the crop and the medical checks out then let's take them.

...but then you might risk missing a Judd or a Selwood.

iys just a question . I wonder though how often you would as compared buy a lemon ?

Possibly could slide now due to his poor performance. Really hope we overlook him, does not interest me at all and the fact he has had two bouts of ankle surgery is a big No No for me.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-fitness-concern-on-sam-weideman-remains/news-story/8bf0ac4385adb23659b60ed19e94f427

if weideman's medical check showed no problems i'd expect it would have been publicised

i wonder if the lack of news is indicative of anything?

just thinking aloud

I still have him up there in our options. I worry less about the draft tests than some I think. I'm more interested in getting footballers than athletes.

Possibly could slide now due to his poor performance. Really hope we overlook him, does not interest me at all and the fact he has had two bouts of ankle surgery is a big No No for me.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-fitness-concern-on-sam-weideman-remains/news-story/8bf0ac4385adb23659b60ed19e94f427

It has to be a concern, I'm sure we will do our homework...


if weideman's medical check showed no problems i'd expect it would have been publicised

i wonder if the lack of news is indicative of anything?

just thinking aloud

Apparently some (not all) clubs still have concerns.

The interesting thing to me is that the club doctors and physio's would each have their own opinions but really the only people fully qualified to account for the risk would be specialist ankle surgeons.

You'd think the one who did Weideman's surgery would issue a favourable prognosis, but I wonder how the 18 clubs assess it. Do they each hire their preferred surgeon? Do a group of them share the same advice from one surgeon whilst others use another?

Or do they almost all end up with the same level of risk and then make a decision based on that.

I'm thinking our history with Trengove would probably have us on the conservative side with Wedieman, especially for pick 3.

There's no way Weideman should come in to pick 3 calculations. Not with what's likely to be available at that pick. Pick 7, whilst only 4 picks later (not including academy bids), is a slightly different matter.

There was a HS article today saying that many clubs have turned off Weideman due to his poor tests, but the dees are still interested. Could he slip to 7?

I think it's likely that Parish and Weideman were our original reasons for trading up to picks 3 & 7 respectively.

And that JT and his team have had a really close look at all the other options, but come back to their original preferences.


Maybe rephrasing an earlier question, but

- what and when was Weiideman's operation?

- was the recent "testing" an assessment undertaken by an independent specialist arranged by MFC?

If, as I understand the answer to the second question is 'yes' then no surprises that out new club has not leaked.

We will know on draft day - if the assessment is one with a good prognosis I suspect that he will be selected with our second pick; if not so good then he won't, and I suspect that he could slip a long way.

 

So you agree its nature is speculative..

Id put it that taking two mids wouldnt be. And recruiters are paid to recruit...not gamble

Sylvia, McLean, Scully, Trengove, Gusberts, Toumpas and Morton were all recruited as mids.

Edited by Radar Detector

I have a feeling he won't last to 7. Just a gut feel

Last week there was no chance but his average test results have changed some opinions


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