Nascent 9,345 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Looking more and more likely all the time, we want him, he wants to come. in terms of the trade,say we lose garlo and free agency comp is pick 19 so 500k per year= pick at the end pf the first round pick 19 & 23 for prestia and a late pick personally id just throw up pick 5 I really hope this eventuates, just hope he doesn't change his mind with the Suns seeming to find a bit of form and Melbourne far from a wise investment regarding likelihood of finals. Edit: Wouldn't mind a deal that included Lynch as well. Edited July 11, 2015 by Nascent Quote
Thehardtackler 785 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Heard from a friend of the Prestia's today that Melbourne have put an offer in front of Prestia and he is giving it serious consideration. Edited July 11, 2015 by Thehardtackler 15 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Whilst I don't wish to 'pick' on him, can some of you watch Garland today and tell me what he's adding to the side today? He's already fluffed kicks. One of which was to a player less than 15 metres away on his own. Do people see how one-dimensional our backline is? Garland has value through FA. We need a different skill set in our side and in our backline. Watch Garland for the rest of the day and you'll see what I mean. He is insignificant. Irrelevant. I tend to agree with you. I don't see in Garland what everyone else appears to see. He is horrendously slow at disposing of the ball, generally makes bad decisions too. I wouldn't say he's a good kick - we have worse, but it's not like he has some silky kicks we can't afford to lose. I don't consider him good one-on-one, again we have worse but we have better. He's not tall or big enough to play as a key defender but we have Jetta to play on smalls. I really don't see it. 2 Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Watched garland closely today. Sad as it is, reluctantly beginning to agree with STMJ and Titan. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,681 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Whilst I don't wish to 'pick' on him, can some of you watch Garland today and tell me what he's adding to the side today? He's already fluffed kicks. One of which was to a player less than 15 metres away on his own. Do people see how one-dimensional our backline is? Garland has value through FA. We need a different skill set in our side and in our backline. Watch Garland for the rest of the day and you'll see what I mean. He is insignificant. Irrelevant. Better in the 2nd half but terrible first half. Agree that we can't have Jetta, Cross and Garland in the same backline. Not the current Garland who can't run the ball out as he did in 2013. Injury and resultant lack of fitness have killed him. Would let him go for a 2nd rd compo pick. Would consider it for a 3rd rounder as well but the draft is shallow. 1 Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Heard from a friend of the Prestia's today that Melbourne have put an offer in front of Prestia and he is giving it serious consideration. Terrible timing Melbourne! 3 Quote
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Heard from a friend of the Prestia's today that Melbourne have put an offer in front of Prestia and he is giving it serious consideration.Whatever the offer is, add %10. Needs to be too good to refuse.Our first pick and Howe... And fingers crossed. Edited July 11, 2015 by TeamPlayedFine39 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 As I've mentioned before, Mark Robinson has alluded to Prestia using the "unsafe workplace" argument if push comes to shove. Not sure I'm a fan, but if we're in the winning side of that argument... True. And we've had it used against us, so as far as I'm concerned, we're owed one. Good point adam. Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I have no idea why people are so harsh on Garland? He performs consistently, he is a good user of the football, he goes hard and gives his all week in week out He has gone through the same hell as a lot of the other players, and has stuck it out. He's had a decent season, and it's beyond me why people would want him gone Howe on the other hand, can take his speccie highlight reel and back the truck out! 11 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,861 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 gotta disagree jaded. garland is and has been a fine servant of the club, and him leaving as a free agent might gift us a second round pick. that's not being harsh, that's being an optimist (he's more likely to get us a third round pick). he performs consistently middlingly, is neither tall nor small (same as lumumba, cross, howe and grimes) and he is a shocking user of the ball - he 'sits' on it rather than distributing quickly and cleanly and he turns it over far too often. he also no longer rebounds from half-back. howe is younger and offers far more flexibility in terms of playing forward and, preferably, back. he also rebounds really well when positioned defensively. we simply cannot go into next season with garland, howe, lumumba, grimes, cross all as 'third / fourth tall' defenders. they don't do enough. 1 Quote
Skuit 10,031 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Somewhere back around the late 90's teams started to win premierships off half-back. Our slingshot seems to be jammed. Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 gotta disagree jaded. garland is and has been a fine servant of the club, and him leaving as a free agent might gift us a second round pick. that's not being harsh, that's being an optimist (he's more likely to get us a third round pick). he performs consistently middlingly, is neither tall nor small (same as lumumba, cross, howe and grimes) and he is a shocking user of the ball - he 'sits' on it rather than distributing quickly and cleanly and he turns it over far too often. he also no longer rebounds from half-back. howe is younger and offers far more flexibility in terms of playing forward and, preferably, back. he also rebounds really well when positioned defensively. we simply cannot go into next season with garland, howe, lumumba, grimes, cross all as 'third / fourth tall' defenders. they don't do enough. I have a feeling we'll be looking at some FAs of our own this year, so that 2nd round pick may not be a given. If we were to lose him and pick up another FA, it may well cancel out altogether. Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I have a feeling we'll be looking at some FAs of our own this year We can look at free agents all day long, but they ain't gonna come to our club unless they're DFA. Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 We can look at free agents all day long, but they ain't gonna come to our club unless they're DFA. Fair point, especially after todays crapola Quote
manny100 1,625 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 The usual suspects will be considered for moving on, M Jones, Bail, Terlich. Looks like it may be over for Jamar and we may see Toumpas offered up for trade - unless he turns it around soon. Roos/coaching team will want to see what Stretch, ANB and Harmes have to offer for the future before deciding on which way to go at trading/drafting - how long will it be before they are high production mids?). They will want to assess the chances of Trengove re-establishing his career. Don't forget fit and in form he can play inside and outside to a high standard. Petracca is another player who likely can come in and have an immediate impact in the midfield as well as forward. If all these players can come up then our midfield should be ok. Given the number of young players on our list I would favour either a trade for an established gun high production mid or if we cannot attract one use our pick on a young KPF (risking one is available at our pick). We probably need a young KPF to come through. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Looking more and more likely all the time, we want him, he wants to come. in terms of the trade,say we lose garlo and free agency comp is pick 19 so 500k per year= pick at the end pf the first round pick 19 & 23 for prestia and a late pick personally id just throw up pick 5 It might be pick 2 or even 1. Quote
Adam The God 30,739 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 It might be pick 2 or even 1. Gee, we'd be pretty unlucky to win the spoon with 6-8 wins, because that's what I reckon we'll get. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 True redleg, i guess it depends where we finish Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 2015 Ins: hardness 2015 Outs: anything resembling soft 1 Quote
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Garland will stay. Howe has already packed his bags. Dion is a pipe dream. 2 Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Garland will stay. Howe has already packed his bags. Dion is a pipe dream. 1 Quote
DeeVoted 607 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Heard from a friend of the Prestia's today that Melbourne have put an offer in front of Prestia and he is giving it serious consideration. Interesting ,Prestia is contracted until the END of 2016. Quote
M C 221 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Interesting ,Prestia is contracted until the END of 2016. He can still be traded... 1 Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Watched garland closely today. Sad as it is, reluctantly beginning to agree with STMJ and Titan. What I didn't like was the stopping each time he got the ball, the poor disposal that then followed and the fact that 4 times he failed to retard Hooker, who he had hold of and then let him just run away with the ball and set up a score for the Bombers. 2 Quote
M C 221 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 We can't go into next season with all 4 of Garland, Howe, Cross and Grimes, right? Howe - Likely gone at end of season Cross - May retire this year, will definitely be rested if he plays on next year Grimes - Garland is far better than, otherwise Grimes would be in the side But by all means, get rid of Garland. Quote
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