I'd much rather the league quietly get involved in getting the club a superstar free agency.

The NBA frequently gets involved in blocking trades etc., and essentially forced Chris Paul to the Clippers after blocking a trade that would have send him to the Lakers (who at the time had won 2 championships in a row).

I actually think that if the AFL bosses are serious about equalisation, this may need to happen. As much as I love Nate Jones, I don't believe we have had a star in the midfield since...... well, many, many years. If the AFL got involved in trade discussions and forced Danger, Shiel, Sloane and Leuie to come to the Dees (for a shite load of AFL subsidised cash, I might add), it would instantly improve our midfield from bottom to mid-table. No point giving us better draft picks, we cannot (wait to) develop them and have shown we can't trade high picks for established stars. The AFL have been belatedly great with bringing in PJ and Roosy, but what we need is a bunch of players who can win games. Sure, it's a team game, and no one player will make us suddenly better, but we are going nowhere without a group of A graders in the midfield.

On the other hand, if the AFL is hedging its bets to see which clubs fall off the perch, they needn't do anything, as it may well happen somewhere in the AFL sooner than we think. Tassie Bandicoots anyone?

Edited May 21, 201510 yr by Moonshadow

I actually think that if the AFL bosses are serious about equalisation, this may need to happen. As much as I love Nate Jones, I don't believe we have had a star in the midfield since...... well, many, many years. If the AFL got involved in trade discussions and forced Danger, Shiel, Sloane and Leuie to come to the Dees (for a shite load of AFL subsidised cash, I might add), it would instantly improve our midfield from bottom to mid-table. No point giving us better draft picks, we cannot (wait to) develop them and have shown we can't trade high picks for established stars. The AFL have been belatedly great with bringing in PJ and Roosy, but what we need is a bunch of players who can win games. Sure, it's a team game, and no one player will make us suddenly better, but we are going nowhere without a group of A graders in the midfield.

On the other hand, if the AFL is hedging its bets to see which clubs fall off the perch, they needn't do anything, as it may well happen somewhere in the AFL sooner than we think. Tassie Bandicoots anyone?

If we got all these players, we'd be playing finals next year. No doubt.

Doesn't look like we can win to many more games so I wander if this 'secret formuler' by the AFL will grant us a PP if we win less then 4 games.

Pick 1 and 2,3 or 4 could definitely snag us a star or 2 in trades and set us up

The PP is clearly dead, unless the Hawks have a bad year or two.

If we got all these players, we'd be playing finals next year. No doubt.

We ain't getting those players unless we get a PP to trade.

We ain't getting those players unless we get a PP to trade.

We won't get these players either way. We're not getting another priority pick.

We don't need a PP, we just need to pick the eyes out of the draft.

In all likelihood there will be kids in the 2nd and 3rd round that end up being superstar players.

MFC need to find these players.

Three weeks ago the talk was finals.

Now it's priority picks.

Both are ridiculous.

Edited May 21, 201510 yr by titan_uranus

how can we ever expect Our players to not panic under pressure, to show composure & belief in the job at hand on gameday, when we panic of the breeze changes direction.

we need to develop our composure under the heat, then we can expect the players to follow that model as well.

it always amazed me how some teams supporters when they panicjkeked their teams players aslso started to fumble & make mistakes.

when the Tigers army is Up & about, the Tiges players grow about a foot taller, & start to play like Tiges of old.

when the Saints supporters start to panic & fear, the team crumbles as well. the atmos-fear created by the fans, cannot be kept from their players.

The players feel it, & if they have any doubts in their own minds, the atmosphere spreads thru the team.

.... we have to also add our steel to the aid of our team, & the players onfield, & there is a place for the bronx cheer, & even on occasions for a ragging, if one of our own in 'the demon jumper' short steps it, let them know it isn't how we at melbourne play the game.

we have to be fair & supportive, but we also have to be stern in what we will except in our clubs colours. like disciplining a puppy, or whatever your pet is, discipline spontaneously at the time is best.... & useless after 6 hours later.

Gotta love Hawks supporters bleating on about priority picks. Wasn't Roughead a priority pick?

It proves the system works. We just... [censored] it up. Horribly.

Doesn't look like we can win to many more games so I wander if this 'secret formuler' by the AFL will grant us a PP if we win less then 4 games.

Pick 1 and 2,3 or 4 could definitely snag us a star or 2 in trades and set us up

Isn't this just the whole problem that we always want to get a handout.....We are @ round 8 & we're talking priority picks!

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Gotta love Hawks supporters bleating on about priority picks. Wasn't Roughead a priority pick?

It proves the system works. We just... [censored] it up. Horribly.

that's right, it wasn't the picks that were our undoing. It was the management of the list, & especially letting the hard workers & club men go, & kept the flashier stars who would not work so hard, or go in for the hot footy head down. no 2 way runners in the list of old stars.

.... this is when 'our soft cushy culture', became bruise free

& this then led to the mortons bennels cooks etc's

Edited May 21, 201510 yr by dee-luded

This thread needs a priority pick.

This thread needs a priority pick.

Now hang on, this thread will get Mitch Clark back next year and Jesse Hogan debuting...

I know threads need midfields to be good but Trengove and Toumpas will get better and...I can't finish this...

Now hang on, this thread will get Mitch Clark back next year and Jesse Hogan debuting...

I know threads need midfields to be good but Trengove and Toumpas will get better and...I can't finish this...

we could always start a new thread on the away jumper

Valid thread, if you think the question won't br raised your in denial.

8 years at the bottom, put in applications for a PP last couple of years and still losing games by over 100 points with excuses that our boys are tired 7 rounds in.

Edited May 22, 201510 yr by olisik

we could always start a new thread on the away jumper

Golden

Edited May 22, 201510 yr by old dee

It's only round 7!?

don't want it. Topping up draft handouts has gotten us nowhere except to contribute to a soft culture that may be permanently ingrained,

Wow, I cant believe I actually agree with you on this one!?

Valid thread, if you think the question won't br raised your in denial.

8 years at the bottom, put in applications for a PP last couple of years and still losing games by over 100 points with excuses that our boys are tired 7 rounds in.

Valid thread?

It's the ramblings of an imbecile / shite stirrer and the collective groanings of everyone else.

Valid thread, if you think the question won't br raised your in denial.

8 years at the bottom, put in applications for a PP last couple of years and still losing games by over 100 points with excuses that our boys are tired 7 rounds in.

Valid Thread?

This one is up there as one of the worst i have seen.

Three weeks ago the talk was finals.

Now it's priority picks.

Both are ridiculous.

Perhaps we could discuss trying to get to 15th on the ladder.

For lowly clubs to have a chance of moving up the ladder fairly quickly I would give the bottom four teams the first 8 picks in the draft.

18th get picks 1&5

17th get 2&6

16th get 3&7

15th get 4&8

For equalization to have any chance of success teams like MFC cannot be at the bottom of the ladder for long periods. It can be seen with us being down for so long how demoralizing it can be with little hope of success in the short to medium term. The last 15 years years and particularly the last 7 have been horrendous. It particularly effects our supporter base as kids don't want to follow a team that does not win games.

For lowly clubs to have a chance of moving up the ladder fairly quickly I would give the bottom four teams the first 8 picks in the draft.

18th get picks 1&5

17th get 2&6

16th get 3&7

15th get 4&8

For equalization to have any chance of success teams like MFC cannot be at the bottom of the ladder for long periods. It can be seen with us being down for so long how demoralizing it can be with little hope of success in the short to medium term. The last 15 years years and particularly the last 7 have been horrendous. It particularly effects our supporter base as kids don't want to follow a team that does not win games.

i quite like this. Its simple. Also means you can either load up and spend big by trading both. You can use both or keep either. Some useful flexibility.

Is hard now for those in the lowest 4 to get any momentum to get up . This would most definitely help.

Naaah...too easy..never fly

Forget the PP.

The bottom four clubs need a salary cap increase x 10% so they have the cash to buy players.

And \ or reduce the bottom 4's maximum total payments to 80% (v current 95%) of total cap so that lowly clubs don't have to overpay mediocre performers and so have more cash available to chase bona fide A grade talent without blowing out the overall budget.

Edited May 23, 201510 yr by I Give a Gawnski