The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Generally a really smart and good field kick for a KP player, is Jesse. Which is a handy attribute for a CHF to have.

As soon as the Weed is ready, I'm sure we'll see the move made.

 

Edited May 23, 2016 by stevethemanjordan

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

The most complete game I have seen him play. Played well to his opponents weaknesses. 

[Lucifers Hero 39,801]

A well deserved rap for Hogan http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jesse-hogan-on-track-to-better-2015-output-after-another-starring-display-for-melbourne/news-story/861c3e28baf69de23a86bf700107eb86

"In 2016, he ranks inside the top six in the entire competition for marks, contested marks, marks inside 50 and goals. They’re statistical indicators for the quintessential key forward, let alone for one that has proved he can also roam higher up the field".

Also 9 games in he has 23 goals; 50% of his 2015 total of 44.  Will easily beat that and on track for a 60 to 70 goal season.  Good enough to win the Coleman in past years.

He has silenced his critics!  Big time!

[Watts the matter 1,235]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

A well deserved rap for Hogan http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jesse-hogan-on-track-to-better-2015-output-after-another-starring-display-for-melbourne/news-story/861c3e28baf69de23a86bf700107eb86

"In 2016, he ranks inside the top six in the entire competition for marks, contested marks, marks inside 50 and goals. They’re statistical indicators for the quintessential key forward, let alone for one that has proved he can also roam higher up the field".

Also 9 games in he has 23 goals; 50% of his 2015 total of 44.  Will easily beat that and on track for a 60 to 70 goal season.  Good enough to win the Coleman in past years.

He has silenced his critics!  Big time!

He had 24 goals after 10 games last season. Keep in mind he only played the 20 games in 2015. He is doing a little bit more so far this season, but his goal kicking is stopping him from showing huge improvement. It would be a great result if he could get 60 goals. From memory I think he would have been 1st or 2nd in the league for contested marks at this point of the season in 2015. 

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

His body language going for marks this season has stepped up in confidence and intensity..

[beelzebub 23,376]

54 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

A well deserved rap for Hogan http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jesse-hogan-on-track-to-better-2015-output-after-another-starring-display-for-melbourne/news-story/861c3e28baf69de23a86bf700107eb86

"In 2016, he ranks inside the top six in the entire competition for marks, contested marks, marks inside 50 and goals. They’re statistical indicators for the quintessential key forward, let alone for one that has proved he can also roam higher up the field".

Also 9 games in he has 23 goals; 50% of his 2015 total of 44.  Will easily beat that and on track for a 60 to 70 goal season.  Good enough to win the Coleman in past years.

He has silenced his critics!  Big time!

he kicked a lot better this week too 

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,294]

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

The most complete game I have seen him play. Played well to his opponents weaknesses. 

Yeah he was very good again today, similar to last week but he kicked straight!

And to think some on here wanted him dropped this week..... 

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

His run up for goal was better.  Lesser stutters and no arc to the right. 

Edited May 23, 2016 by Gorgoroth
Writing in English

[beelzebub 23,376]

9 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Hours rin up for goal was better.  Lesser stutters and no arc to the right. 

strangely I understood that 

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

Edited into English ?

[Adam The God 30,256]

Hogan at CHF and Weideman at FF with Watts as a smart third tall who can kick goals too... that's a scary proposition for opposition defences. Especially, when we'll have the likes of Viney, Oliver, Petracca, Tyson etc winning the ball out of the middle more times than not.

Our list balance is almost becoming a little Hawthornesque. We're building a really strong midfield with depth, a powerful forwardline, but a weaker backline. Hawthorn's structures, team work at the back and good ball users is what enabled them to be so dominant. We don't have that yet, but that's the direction we're going in. Of course, down the track we'll look to add KPDs to our list just as Hawthorn did with Gibson (despite playing undersized), Lake and now Frawley.

Let's keep adding to the midfield, sign a KPD in FA or Hurley  and continue developing our young KPFs in Weideman and Hulett to support Jesse.

I love that we're still flying under the radar and rightfully so, we're still horribly inconsistent, but if we can sign Hogan long term this year, heads might start to turn our way.

 

Edited May 23, 2016 by AdamFarr

[Deestroy All 14,266]

He's been carrying a right calf. Looked like he was over it on Sunday. 

Then my sphincter nearly exploded when he landed on his back. 

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

They should sit Hogan down and watch On the Couch's analysis of the Freo list and where it may be in two years time. It is fairly unimpressive. Can't see them enticing too many players their way 

(Im ignoring the fact that Gerard said Cam McCarthy was a potential A grader and thus devaluing their argument)

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Love him having a stint in the midfield.....better than Wattsy in the ruck!

[Sideshow Bob 2,386]

2 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

Hogan at CHF and Weideman at FF with Watts as a smart third tall who can kick goals too... that's a scary proposition for opposition defences. Especially, when we'll have the likes of Viney, Oliver, Petracca, Tyson etc winning the ball out of the middle more times than not.

Our list balance is almost becoming a little Hawthornesque. We're building a really strong midfield with depth, a powerful forwardline, but a weaker backline. Hawthorn's structures, team work at the back and good ball users is what enabled them to be so dominant. We don't have that yet, but that's the direction we're going in. Of course, down the track we'll look to add KPDs to our list just as Hawthorn did with Gibson (despite playing undersized), Lake and now Frawley.

Let's keep adding to the midfield, sign a KPD in FA or Hurley  and continue developing our young KPFs in Weideman and Hulett to support Jesse.

I love that we're still flying under the radar and rightfully so, we're still horribly inconsistent, but if we can sign Hogan long term this year, heads might start to turn our way.

 

Need a Gibson and a Hodge for the backline - Hurley would be that guy.... dreams... 

Could Melksham become a Hodge, I doubt it -  But Trengove could! Trengove marshalling the back 6 in Hodge style quarterback role. Yep that'll work. 

Still need a Hurley though. Might get one might not. The big frame of Hulett -any Casey watchers think he could be a CHB type instead of a raw KPF?

Edited May 23, 2016 by jako13
trengove apparently is Re-engineer on auto correct.... strangely seems apt

[Adam The God 30,256]

23 minutes ago, jako13 said:

Need a Gibson and a Hodge for the backline - Hurley would be that guy.... dreams... 

Could Melksham become a Hodge, I doubt it -  But Trengove could! Trengove marshalling the back 6 in Hodge style quarterback role. Yep that'll work. 

Still need a Hurley though. Might get one might not. The big frame of Hulett -any Casey watchers think he could be a CHB type instead of a raw KPF?

I think what Hawthorn did though was bring in the Gibson's and the Lake's once they'd built a bit of momentum in the competition. Let's see who we can attract at the end of 2016 and at the end of 2017. I think you'll find (if we continue our upward trajectory as a club) that we'll be able to entice some A graders for the first time in years. And these won't be A graders on the back of merely money. These will be A graders that want to jump on board, because they see what we're building. Make finals or go close this year and follow it up again next year with a finals campaign and this will be a reality.

I keep saying it, but we are building a scary midfield. Midfields win premierships.

[Members' Wing 1,106]

A forward line of:

HF: Watts Hogan Petracca

F: Garlett Weideman Kent

Looks ridiculously good considering their average age is 21.

Edited May 23, 2016 by Members' Wing

[Adam The God 30,256]

11 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

A forward line of:

HF: Watts Hogan Petracca

F: Garlett Weideman Kent

Looks ridiculously good considering their average age is 21.

Get them all coming through at the same time. It's the Geelong model.

[whatwhat say what 22,755]

Pretty exciting.

 

Don't discount both Kennedy and Harmes.

 

Both are very important and the latter has been seriously impressive.

[beelzebub 23,376]

6 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Edited into English ?

its fine I m fluent in gibberish

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

6 hours ago, beelzebub said:

its fine I m fluent in gibberish

I also.speak a lot of whosiewhatits witha liberal dose of thingamajigs.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jesse-hogan-on-track-to-better-2015-output-after-another-starring-display-for-melbourne/news-story/861c3e28baf69de23a86bf700107eb86

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

He's been better this year than people give him credit for, especially since being allowed to roam up the ground and use his strengths instead of plonking him in the goalsquare and trying to turn him into Plugger 2.0

[What 18,810]

Full Forward in Team of the Week  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-24/team-of-the-week-round-nine

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

10 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

Get them all coming through at the same time. It's the Geelong model.

...... or alternately, the GWS model without having it gifted to us by the AFL