Sir Why You Little, on 24 Apr 2015 - 3:04 PM, said:Sir Why You Little, on 24 Apr 2015 - 3:04 PM, said:

I am in no way comparing.

The only way tonight's game can honour the soldiers of past conflict is to "go" when it is the time to go.

Football is a controlled war..........

GAME

The real thing is pure chaos

Lest we Forget...

It's just a bloody GAME

Sir Why You Little, on 24 Apr 2015 - 3:04 PM, said:

I am in no way comparing.

The only way tonight's game can honour the soldiers of past conflict is to "go" when it is the time to go.

Football is a controlled war..........

GAME

The real thing is pure chaos

Lest we Forget...

This is not a good weekend for you is it Boss...

Ha gold, as an ex loved it, he would have been one of those who shot himself in the foot

Was going to make a Sergeant Klinger joke but don't worry.

No we don't that's the break even figure

No need to be pedantic but I actually think the break even number is a bit higher. Not much mind you and it depends on what levels we open etc etc. There are quite a few variable factors.

Bodies on the line tonight

Friday Night. Heard the late night jocks on SEN last night say "We deserve a better game"

I am sick of these wankerss scorning my club

Make it a classic.

No excuses.

The diggers went when it was their turn....

They might be blaming Richmond. after all we beat them last year.........

I am in no way comparing.

The only way tonight's game can honour the soldiers of past conflict is to "go" when it is the time to go.

Football is a controlled war.

The real thing is pure chaos

Lest we Forget...

wyl, i'd say

war is controlled chaos

football is......well....just a game..... and sometimes chaotic

I am so pumped for the game I haven't been able to do any work this afternoon! Almost there!

Can't even concentrate today. So excited for this I'm leaving work on time for the first time in months to get there with enough time to get a good seat.

Go Dees!

wyl, i'd say

war is controlled chaos

football is......well....just a game..... and sometimes chaotic

Fair enough...I am not comparing them

Bones are broken and blood is spilt on a football field

As the song says "it's more than a game"

Conflict War is another thing altogether....i would never disrespect soldiers both fallen or returned.

wyl, i'd say

war is controlled chaos

football is......well....just a game..... and sometimes chaotic

concur

Footy is a few hours of argy bargy

Its tickle time compared to war.

I also aagree with the good wife who grrr's and rolleyes when the ads for ANZAC footy come on with the suggestion if similar traits and heroism etc.

Its good that a game can draw attention and solicit respect for history etc...but footy is just a game . Everyone goes home after.

Looking forward to tonight though.

Absolutely pumped for this we need to show the same effort and intensity as last week and I'm confident we will. We are still quite big underdogs although the money seems to have come in a little bit for us (backed from about $4 down closer to $3.50) - we're still getting no respect from the average mug punters so hopefully we can get out there and show them what this new Demon side is made of.

From a lot of directions, ANZAC Day is fast closing in on becoming a dress-ups, showbags and chocolates kind of event.

I hope tonight can be something quietly commemorative, and not too much pretension and vainglorious posing.

I hope our club can be one of the influences that help to keep alive the earnest, solemn tradition.

This bothers me every year, the whole ANZAC day thing. With no disrespect for anyone who has put their body or lives on the line for anything, I'm so sick of the glorification of war. Comparing war and football itself is completely ridiculous, but making a big song and dance about the ANZACs obscures the fact that war has always been and continues to be a tool of puppetry, with the fat cats on top pulling the strings and creating a social narrative around it that somehow justifies taking someone else's life. "Lest we forget" has always seemed to me to be the most absurd and offensive thing to repeat ad nauseum, when nobody has ever discussed what it is we are supposed to have learnt in order not to forget. As long as people are still being sent to kill other people, then we haven't learned [censored] all and there's nothing we are in danger of forgetting.

Can't we have a round that celebrates not being a dick head?

Deep apologies if this has offended anyone, but it gets up my goat every year.

This bothers me every year, the whole ANZAC day thing. With no disrespect for anyone who has put their body or lives on the line for anything, I'm so sick of the glorification of war. Comparing war and football itself is completely ridiculous, but making a big song and dance about the ANZACs obscures the fact that war has always been and continues to be a tool of puppetry, with the fat cats on top pulling the strings and creating a social narrative around it that somehow justifies taking someone else's life. "Lest we forget" has always seemed to me to be the most absurd and offensive thing to repeat ad nauseum, when nobody has ever discussed what it is we are supposed to have learnt in order not to forget. As long as people are still being sent to kill other people, then we haven't learned [censored] all and there's nothing we are in danger of forgetting.

Can't we have a round that celebrates not being a [censored] head?

Deep apologies if this has offended anyone, but it gets up my goat every year.

ANZAC day to me isn't about the "glorification of war"

It is about the men and women who gave their lives for right or wrong because they felt a sense of duty to their country. To me "lest we forget" is about remembering the dead for the lives they sacrificied, not the reason for which they sacrificed them. To others like yourself it's about remembering the futility of the whole thing and not forgetting so we don't make the mistake of sacrificing the lives of so many Australians again.

On my way down from the country....many Dees supporters on the country train....1st game for the year can't wait...

ANZAC day to me isn't about the "glorification of war"

It is about the men and women who gave their lives for right or wrong because they felt a sense of duty to their country. To me "lest we forget" is about remembering the dead for the lives they sacrificied, not the reason for which they sacrificed them. To others like yourself it's about remembering the futility of the whole thing and not forgetting so we don't make the mistake of sacrificing the lives of so many Australians again.

Mr Poos, it's a fair point and I understand that. I just have always felt like the biggest dishonour you can give anyone who has died (pointlessly or otherwise) in war is to create an illusion that it was something honourable for which they died. No ANZACs died to protect Australia. They died, like millions of others, because the modern age met the pre-modern age in an almighty cluster [censored] of dirt, bullets and an rapidly decreased sense that war was a noble thing to engage in. And because the British wanted a distraction against the Turks.

I'd be all for remembering fallen soldiers, if it was also agreed that there should never be any more to fall, and that we as a species had moved past emotional tendencies towards violence. We haven't, so I see it as self-perpetuating. Respect fallen soldier = glorification of war = justification for war.

I've loaded up on us to win at $3.65.

Specked us to win by over 40 points - at $21.

And had a decent crack at the $2.50 on offer about us being the first team to 25 points.

Mr Poos, it's a fair point and I understand that. I just have always felt like the biggest dishonour you can give anyone who has died (pointlessly or otherwise) in war is to create an illusion that it was something honourable for which they died. No ANZACs died to protect Australia. They died, like millions of others, because the modern age met the pre-modern age in an almighty cluster [censored] of dirt, bullets and an rapidly decreased sense that war was a noble thing to engage in. And because the British wanted a distraction against the Turks.

This is just outright wrong.

World War I, many will concede was a waste of Australian lives, which were used as a distraction for the British.

WW2 however, is a different story. The intelligence suggested that the Japanese were trying to take the whole pacific, and some research will show the British were happy to let them do so and deal with it after Europe was won. Many Australians that died did so to prevent the war ever reaching our shores. There were Japanese subs in our harbors, to say there was no threat to Australian territory is ignorant and shows how little you know about which you speak.

Despite you're obvious distaste for the reason these soldiers were asked to enlist, surely you can respect that they did it because they thought it was their duty to their country.

Attitudes like yours to ANZAC day are typical of a younger generation from a peaceful time who has never really seen their home threatened

Aaaand back to the footy

Aaaand back to the footy

My bad, go dees

Michie sub

Yea nah my bad. Sorry for derailing. Go you mighty demons!

...but just to more explain where I'm coming from, I grew up largely in Europe. My point of view derives from a society that knows full well the consequences of war and what should be learned from it. I will say no more on the matter. How's them Dees? Hope we can grab a win!

Holy moly didn't anyones hairs on the back stand up during the ceremony?

I could get use to that every year!

Go dees!!!

Great opening ceremony.

Really well done, loved it.

Go dees

The combined banner capped off an amazing ceremony. Like dazz, I got goosebumps. Proud of both clubs for the amazing display.

Now make with the winning!