Brayshaw will play more afl games this year than chip, what a trade!

NAB cup game.

Meh. 1 game. Hawks were almost playing there box hill team.

I think Chip will be in for a good year.

I hope he knows their names, he will by the end of the year on last nights effort.

Edited February 27, 201510 yr by ManDee

My hawks mate was already calling him Failey.

Frawley is a good player.

That said, I don't miss him.

Did you notice the standard hand punching every time he stuffed up?

I dont begrudge chip for leaving. He hung around for 7 years during a crap time and has now gone to a club where he will play finals and possibly a premiership which I believe is what players play football for. Yes I was disappointed that he chose not to hang around but at least he wasnt a scully and ditch us after 2 seasons. But it will be interesting to see how he goes r1 against geelong where hawkins has given him trouble. Also he may find things a bit tougher he is part of a standout team that rarely lose. The pressure will be greater.

Bulldogs fans were annoyed when Lake left but do you tink he cares. He now has 2 flags. Yep look what happened to the dogs over that 2 year period. They lost there coach, had 2 disappointing seasons and lost there captain and a brownlow medalist. Im just saying I understand why players leave.

Scully overrated - 2 x compensation picks

Sylvia overrated - Bernie Vince

Frawley overrated - pick 3 (Brayshaw)

Excuse me while I crack a stubbie.

Just one more to come to complete the picture!

Watts overrated - ???? Anyone

I dont begrudge chip for leaving. He hung around for 7 years during a crap time and has now gone to a club where he will play finals and possibly a premiership which I believe is what players play football for. Yes I was disappointed that he chose not to hang around but at least he wasnt a scully and ditch us after 2 seasons. But it will be interesting to see how he goes r1 against geelong where hawkins has given him trouble. Also he may find things a bit tougher he is part of a standout team that rarely lose. The pressure will be greater.

Bulldogs fans were annoyed when Lake left but do you tink he cares. He now has 2 flags. Yep look what happened to the dogs over that 2 year period. They lost there coach, had 2 disappointing seasons and lost there captain and a brownlow medalist. Im just saying I understand why players leave.

at least we can thank Frawley's manager for somehow negotiating with the Hawks to line up a contract that pushed us into top-tier compensation status. I'd like to shake that guy's hand.

Does he know how to get to Box Hill?

Just catch the Orient Express.

I don't think Brian Lake's first game at Hawthorn set the world on fire but he now has 2 premiership medals.....

I don't think Buddy's first game with the swans was world beating either....And there has been many others who haven't stared in their first games.

I don't get the glee of some posters have because Chip played badly in his first game with the Hawks.

I don't think Brian Lake's first game at Hawthorn set the world on fire but he now has 2 premiership medals.....

I don't think Buddy's first game with the swans was world beating either....And there has been many others who haven't stared in their first games.

I don't get the glee of some posters have because Chip played badly in his first game with the Hawks.

Yeah but Gysberts first game for us was a belter.

Frawley should provide adequate cover for the loss of Cheney.

In all seriousness, he did look fairly rubbish but still very early days.

I'm not particularly interested in reveling in somebody's failures after committing so much of their time to a club which gave very little in return.

I hope he does well.

Chip was a good player for us, especially early on, but seemed to lose interest in the last few years, where his form really tapered off. There were games where he annoyed the hell out of me.

To me his big flaw was disposal and decision making.

I don't think he will improve on disposal, but he may on decision making. If he doesn't, he won't play a lot of senior footy with the Hawks.

Last night was only a NAB Cup game but he was very poor. He will improve, hopefully not enough for us to regret his leaving.

Me, I am looking forward to seeing Brayshaw play.

Me, I am looking forward to seeing Brayshaw play.

I'm hoping to see Brayshaw play at Casey every week and dominating but can't break into the side because Melbourne are doing so well.

I'm hoping to see Brayshaw play at Casey every week and dominating but can't break into the side because Melbourne are doing so well.

That's exactly what I want to see

Hasn't been the case for any of the 5 x top-5 draft picks we have had since Cale Morton, 2008

To me his big flaw was disposal and decision making.

Yep. He is still a very good defender with his strength and closing speed and will still shut out some very good forwards. On that note he will be pretty handy for the Hawks.

But with the emphasis on possession retention in the modern game and building from the back, especially so in the case of the Hawks' precision game style, it will be interesting to see how Frawley fits in in this respect.

If he racks up Josh Gibson level statistics then there are going to be a fair few errors in the back half for the Hawks.

Just one more to come to complete the picture!

Watts overrated - ???? Anyone

It's bad enough that we have to have a thread once again dedicated to putting the boot into a player who is no longer a part of our club... but then to have it somehow morph into yet another put the boot into Watts thread? Spare me.

Edited February 27, 201510 yr by hardtack

He wont be missed one little bit.

Our backlkine didn't miss a beat without him last season. Hell it probably functioned even better.

And I still haven't forgiven him for the pathetic effort at the end of the Bulldogs game last season where he had two easy chances to kill the ball and failed, leaving Bontempelli to kick the winning goal.

Sam Frost will have a better season.

I lost faith after 186. His body language was the worst of anyone else on the field that day.

Edited February 27, 201510 yr by praha

I thought the NAB was a place to put your credentials on show and at a base level, play your role and perform with the hope of getting a spot in the 22 come round 1.

Frawley clearly didn't achieve that last night.

His best football is past him and to be perfectly frank, he occasionally looked good in a very shitty team and don't get me started about All Australian selection because that's debatable for almost the entire team. He had a good year, no doubt but his performances last year were pitiful for an experienced defender.

I don't think he'll have a good year at the Hawks and will crumble under the pressure of being the 'big-name' free agent.

No, it's shot because you judge his season by one nab cup match.

haha, you wood duck, I said "if tonight is anything to go by", just after I stated I think he will do well at Hawthorn, so not sure where I judged his season. I hate lowering myself to argue with dills like yourself, so you win.

Hopin one of his dinky "Chip" passes costs them big time in a tight final.

Frawley has closing speed ??????????????? Did you see him run down last night by the so-so/nondescript Hawks fwd players. He fumbled consistently, he lost touch/feel with his opponent and his delivery ????? He has done a pre season like the other Hawks and his skills are embarrassingly non existent. No excuse for a performance like that. He will be well paid for his "efforts".

As for that traitor that went to the Cats...........................IDGAF !

Edited February 27, 201510 yr by Still Waiting

I knew this thread would be humming today!!