2015 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[MikeAlphaTango 150]

Couldn't see any mention of him but Kieran Lovell, relative of Andy starred on the weekend for Tasmania racking up 42 disposals.Described as a nuggety inside midfielder who has been likened to Fremantle's Lachie Neale, was Tassie's best. Some footage can be found on the AFL website Eyecatchers where they go on to say that he is a smart footballer, accumulative taking 10 marks, 4 clearances and 19 handball receives.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-06-23/u18s-academy-guns-shine

[Whispering_Jack 28,094]

There was very little change to the top 20 on TAC Cup Future Stars

1. Gold Coast - Joshua Schache

2. Brisbane - Jacob Weitering

3. Carlton - Aaron Francis

4. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

5. Sydney* - Callum Mills

6. Melbourne - Harley Balic

7. St. Kilda - Rhys Mathieson

8. Essendon - Darcy Parish

9. Port Adelaide - Harry McKay

10. North Melbourne - Luke Partington

11. Geelong - Charlie Curnow

12. Western Bulldogs - Sam Weideman

13. Adelaide - Darcy Tucker

14. Richmond - Kieran Collins

15. Collingwood - Josh Dunkley

16. Hawthorn - Riley Bonner

17. West Coast - Callum Ah Chee

18. Fremantle - Jade Gresham

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

* Academy bid

[Machsy 2,858]

He's flown under the radar a bit because of Weitering, but I think Collins is a very bankable prospect.

He is massive for a kid a his age, but it's not why he's good either.

Looks a ready made Truck Rutten to me.

[ChaserJ 4,008]

Keep watching this kid. He is Simon Black & Joel Selwood combined. MFC needs Darcy Tucker

This one's for you Normie:

[KeaneDemon 9]

http://boundforglorynews.com/the-new-bidding-system-implications-for-the-2015-draft/

Hope this linked worked.

Gives a good run down on the new bidding system.

Sorry if someone else has brought it up and this seemed like the right topic to put it in.

[BAMF 3,809]

http://boundforglorynews.com/the-new-bidding-system-implications-for-the-2015-draft/

Hope this linked worked.

Gives a good run down on the new bidding system.

Sorry if someone else has brought it up and this seemed like the right topic to put it in.

A good article. I knew the basics already. But its good to see some real examples.

I really wanted to know about the use of future picks which they didn't go into.

[Machsy 2,858]

I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by Tucker.

Surely for a pick as early as we'll have, in a weak draft no less, you want a pure mid, not a bloke who plays off the HBF.

Sure, he's learning to go into the middle, but why hasn't he been playing as a mid at some level all along?

It worries me, and I don't see any exceptional attributes in the kid - just a solid all-rounder that has limited midfield experience.

Having said that, I'm underwhelmed by Schache too.

Looks a lot like David Hale to me.

Not a great deal of aggression or competitiveness and looks a bit slow tbh.

I'd have Parish, Weidemann or Kieran Collins before both.

[ChaserJ 4,008]

I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by Tucker.

Surely for a pick as early as we'll have, in a weak draft no less, you want a pure mid, not a bloke who plays off the HBF.

Sure, he's learning to go into the middle, but why hasn't he been playing as a mid at some level all along?

It worries me, and I don't see any exceptional attributes in the kid - just a solid all-rounder that has limited midfield experience.

Having said that, I'm underwhelmed by Schache too.

Looks a lot like David Hale to me.

Not a great deal of aggression or competitiveness and looks a bit slow tbh.

I'd have Parish, Weidemann or Kieran Collins before both.

I'd have the same reservations on Tucker.

I'm higher on Schache, I think his tank is very good and he looks like he gets decent separation on his opponent at this level. His set shot kicking is a thing of beauty and he spots up target's well around the ground. There are parts of his group game that remind me of Joe Daniher (not his kicking, not as athletic). The caveat with him is that the best underage key defenders play for Vic Country, so Murray vs Dandenong will probably inform us better on him than Vic Country vs Metro. Fair to say he doesn't have Hogan levels of aggression and competitiveness.

For all that, if I had to choose at pick 1, Weitering would be my choice. He does have the competitive streak and his one on one stuff looks stronger than Schache's.

[Pennant St Dee 11,481]

Don't mind Charlie Curnow who I think will slide so would not be adverse to us trading down our pick to the mid to late teens

[ChaserJ 4,008]

Don't mind Charlie Curnow who I think will slide so would not be adverse to us trading down our pick to the mid to late teens

I'm very keen to see more of Curnow play. The (very) limited footage I've seen has been quite exciting and he's still highly regarded by some clubs despite his injury and lack of exposure this year.

If we were picking at 5 right now (and Parish was off the board), I'd be thinking very hard about selecting Curnow here.

[dee-luded 2,958]

There was very little change to the top 20 on TAC Cup Future Stars

1. Gold Coast - Joshua Schache

2. Brisbane - Jacob Weitering

3. Carlton - Aaron Francis

4. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

5. Sydney* - Callum Mills

6. Melbourne - Harley Balic

7. St. Kilda - Rhys Mathieson

8. Essendon - Darcy Parish

9. Port Adelaide - Harry McKay

10. North Melbourne - Luke Partington

11. Geelong - Charlie Curnow

12. Western Bulldogs - Sam Weideman

13. Adelaide - Darcy Tucker

14. Richmond - Kieran Collins

15. Collingwood - Josh Dunkley

16. Hawthorn - Riley Bonner

17. West Coast - Callum Ah Chee

18. Fremantle - Jade Gresham

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

* Academy bid

really hope we can somehow snare Weideman in the draft trading machinations, as our 2nd pick, mid 1st Rnd somewhere.

[John Dee 439]

Jade Gresham for mine!

[KingDingAling 3,622]

Young Lovell looks a real player.

He is accumulating a lot of the ball - and hitting targets.

[3Dee 1,153]

https://twitter.com/championdata/status/616148145991323648

you can say that again!

[Return to Glory 7,795]

I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by Tucker.

Surely for a pick as early as we'll have, in a weak draft no less, you want a pure mid, not a bloke who plays off the HBF.

Sure, he's learning to go into the middle, but why hasn't he been playing as a mid at some level all along?

It worries me, and I don't see any exceptional attributes in the kid - just a solid all-rounder that has limited midfield experience.

Having said that, I'm underwhelmed by Schache too.

Looks a lot like David Hale to me.

Not a great deal of aggression or competitiveness and looks a bit slow tbh.

I'd have Parish, Weidemann or Kieran Collins before both.

Have to agree re Tucker. Others appear to be passing him by. Hope/ think that Parish may slide to us.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Is there a Wines, Dustin Martin type in the top ten?

[ChaserJ 4,008]

Is there a Wines, Dustin Martin type in the top ten?

Not quite mate. The best contested players are attached to GWS & Sydney. I don't have Mathieson at Wines' level, and he certainly doesn't have Dusty Martin's explosive traits and kicking ability. Looking very much like a draft for kpp's.

Callum Moore impressed again tonight.

[Demi Dee 578]

https://twitter.com/championdata/status/616148145991323648

you can say that again!

Schwartz on SEN rated him very highly

[SaberFang 7,141]

Not quite mate. The best contested players are attached to GWS & Sydney. I don't have Mathieson at Wines' level, and he certainly doesn't have Dusty Martin's explosive traits and kicking ability. Looking very much like a draft for kpp's.

Oh, in that case, we'll just take Hogan MKII.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Oh, in that case, we'll just take Hogan MKII.

I'm hoping for Clark Keating Mk11

& bit like the older David Schwarz, key position & 2nd ruck. crash bash.

could Weideman grow into a role like this?

[KingDingAling 3,622]

Is there a Wines, Dustin Martin type in the top ten?

Wines, Martin and Brayshaw - all dual sided. That is why they are so damn good.

Because they are effective on both sides of the body, they also spread either side, it really opens the game up for them.

I haven't seen any player this year in that mould.

MFC is well positioned in the draft, we either take the best KP who slips through the net - given that KPs are touted top 3 picks (Schache, Weitering and Francis), or.. We instead decide to take the best mid in the draft - whoever that may be. Personally, I would take the best KP early, then take Lovell - or Gresham if he slipped - with our next pick.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,564]

Wines, Martin and Brayshaw - all dual sided. That is why they are so damn good.

Martin is definitely not dual sided. I was at the game against the Eagles and he had to check-side kicks from 50 because he didn't want to go on his left.

Wines I haven't watched enough of to know but I think Brayshaw would have to be one of the most fluent kicks on either side that I have seen at such a young age.

[dazzledavey36 49,362]

Wines, Martin and Brayshaw - all dual sided. That is why they are so damn good.

Because they are effective on both sides of the body, they also spread either side, it really opens the game up for them.

I haven't seen any player this year in that mould.

MFC is well positioned in the draft, we either take the best KP who slips through the net - given that KPs are touted top 3 picks (Schache, Weitering and Francis), or.. We instead decide to take the best mid in the draft - whoever that may be. Personally, I would take the best KP early, then take Lovell - or Gresham if he slipped - with our next pick.

Wines and Martin are not dual sided. They spread hard because they are smart footballers and work hard.

[KingDingAling 3,622]

Martin is definitely not dual sided. I was at the game against the Eagles and he had to check-side kicks from 50 because he didn't want to go on his left.

Wines I haven't watched enough of to know but I think Brayshaw would have to be one of the most fluent kicks on either side that I have seen at such a young age.

If Martin check sided on his dominate foot, it has more to do with the angle - and less to do with his competency on his opposite foot.

Edited July 2, 2015 by KingDingAling

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,564]

If Martin check sided on his dominate foot, it has more to do with the angle - and less to do with his competency on his opposite foot.

I really doubt this. I'd recommend watching the footage again if you can.

One of them he rolled through for a goal which was fairly lucky. The second one dropped well short straight to an Eagles player.

Without a doubt Brayshaw is much better on his opposite foot (whichever that is), Martin is more explosive though.