Mitch Clark on Paleo Diet

[jazza 1,323]

My guess is the photo is real, just extrememly badly timed with unflattering angle.

Yep,i myself get them all the time.

[nutbean 8,837]

http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202014%20Training%20-%20Geelong%20Cats%20171114&image_id=353794

surely the official AFL photo would not have been shopped by the photographer - that makes no sense. Interestingly, the photo in question is not shown in this collection - so where is it?

Jenny Craig ? ( "before shot")

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Why is this a thread..

Man's an opposition player now.

And one who has to climb Everest before he starts playing to the level he did with us.

Edited December 2, 2014 by stevethemanjordan

[gsmith12 491]

Why is this a thread..

Man's an opposition player now.

And one who has to climb Everest before he starts playing to the level that was with us.

My only interest is in Clark failing at Geelong.

Fraud.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

My only interest is in Clark failing at Geelong.

Fraud.

Very mean spirited, Smithy.

I Love it.

[Demonland 66,510]

here's another photo:

[Ethan Tremblay 28,536]

here's another photo:

He's fat and unfit okay? Just let us have this one dammit!

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

here's another photo:

this photo makes me vomit.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

here's another photo:

Nice try.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Nice try.

I laughed.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Nice try.

Is he having....kittens?

Edited December 3, 2014 by AzzKikA

[Buffalo 203]

It seems Mitch is getting rid of that spare tire pretty rapidly....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-clark-training-the-house-down-after-trade-says-geelong-teammate-mitch-duncan/story-fni5f6yf-1227150325548

[Moonshadow 16,411]

It seems Mitch is getting rid of that spare tire pretty rapidly....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-clark-training-the-house-down-after-trade-says-geelong-teammate-mitch-duncan/story-fni5f6yf-1227150325548

Two photos in the article name him as Mitch Duncan. Great reporting fellas, well researched and accurate. FMD.

[DeeSpencer 23,495]

I think the first 2 comments under the article say it all

If you're reading this Mitch, since you clearly have the cure for depression can you please let the world know what it is? You will win a Nobel peace prize and help a lot of people

Lying sack of [censored]

Can we avoid going down this road again.

If you're attacking him for his mental illness then you aren't any better than him even if he did fabricate the entire story which I sincerely doubt.

We are human, so we can feel bitter if he does well at Geelong and make the fat jokes and what not. But you shouldn't attack his illness. And to those people who have done so under the article then either they are full of it themselves or they not only have depression but they have a shocking lack of empathy.

Replace depression with cancer and replay the story:

- Mitch got cancer at Melbourne

- It forced him to retire

- He started getting healthy again and wished to make a come back

- His doctors felt he was best off away from the place where he got cancer

Do you still feel the same way about him?

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

It seems Mitch is getting rid of that spare tire pretty rapidly....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-clark-training-the-house-down-after-trade-says-geelong-teammate-mitch-duncan/story-fni5f6yf-1227150325548

Not entirely true, my hugely GFC devoted friend has seen him twice the past two days. Said he is still quite large, and looks relatively unfit. Is coming from a long way back as he had time from the game. Recons he won't be ready to at least mid-year.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,536]

I think the first 2 comments under the article say it all

If you're reading this Mitch, since you clearly have the cure for depression can you please let the world know what it is? You will win a Nobel peace prize and help a lot of people

Lying sack of [censored]

I take solace in knowing the truth will come out one day. Edited December 9, 2014 by Ethan Tremblay

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Can we avoid going down this road again.

If you're attacking him for his mental illness then you aren't any better than him even if he did fabricate the entire story which I sincerely doubt.

We are human, so we can feel bitter if he does well at Geelong and make the fat jokes and what not. But you shouldn't attack his illness. And to those people who have done so under the article then either they are full of it themselves or they not only have depression but they have a shocking lack of empathy.

Replace depression with cancer and replay the story:

- Mitch got cancer at Melbourne

- It forced him to retire

- He started getting healthy again and wished to make a come back

- His doctors felt he was best off away from the place where he got cancer

Do you still feel the same way about him?

lol. This is a very long bow. Cancer is something you can actually be scientifically tested for, where with Depression there is no real concrete test, such as a blood test or something of similar ilk to give a certain diagnosis. If a person says they have the symptoms and a doctor/psychologist believes they tick the boxes then you are diagnosed with depression. Hence why the scrutiny and scepticism is able to be laid on people in regards to this. So to use cancer as an interchangeable device to support your argument is ludicrous.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,536]

Can we avoid going down this road again.

If you're attacking him for his mental illness then you aren't any better than him even if he did fabricate the entire story which I sincerely doubt.

We are human, so we can feel bitter if he does well at Geelong and make the fat jokes and what not. But you shouldn't attack his illness. And to those people who have done so under the article then either they are full of it themselves or they not only have depression but they have a shocking lack of empathy.

Replace depression with cancer and replay the story:

- Mitch got cancer at Melbourne

- It forced him to retire

- He started getting healthy again and wished to make a come back

- His doctors felt he was best off away from the place where he got cancer

Do you still feel the same way about him?

Are you seriously that naive that you believe that rubbish?

Your hypothetical is ridiculous. Apart from being offensive to cancer sufferers, it's just plain pointless. You can't ask a hypothetical in an attempt to prove your point.

Edited December 9, 2014 by Ethan Tremblay

[DeeSpencer 23,495]

lol. This is a very long bow. Cancer is something you can actually be scientifically tested for, where with Depression there is no real concrete test, such as a blood test or something of similar ilk to give a certain diagnosis. If a person says they have the symptoms and a doctor/psychologist believes they tick the boxes then you are diagnosed with depression. Hence why the scrutiny and scepticism is able to be laid on people in regards to this. So to use cancer as an interchangeable device to support your argument is ludicrous.

So you think a psychiatrist, if not the experienced doctors or psychologists who Mitch saw were just duped? There's no blood test, but there are very scientific tests for depression. You might be able to lie and make up answers to tests such as the K-10 test, but experienced mental health practitioners also not things like speech, behaviour, affect etc. Last time I checked Mitch Clark isn't a well trained actor.

There is also no definitive diagnostic test for Parkinson's disease, ALS or many other neurological conditions, does that make them fake as well?

And you think he's tricked good friends like Chris Dawes, Nathan Jones and the rest of the players as well? All for what exactly? Did he want to be sitting at home last year putting on weight? Tearing up 2 years at 750k for a settlement which was surely much less. Did he also guarantee a contract from Geelong ahead of time? Where is the net gain here? If he really wanted out he could've simply gone through the motions recovering from an array of soft tissue injuries then reached an agreement with the club for a trade. He didn't need a mental health excuse, he was a repeatedly broken down player on a huge salary who didn't want to be at the club.

If he invented a depression purely to get out of the MFC with no other obvious benefit then he has some other form of mental illness, in which case the comparison still exists.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

So you think a psychiatrist, if not the experienced doctors or psychologists who Mitch saw were just duped? There's no blood test, but there are very scientific tests for depression. You might be able to lie and make up answers to tests such as the K-10 test, but experienced mental health practitioners also not things like speech, behaviour, affect etc. Last time I checked Mitch Clark isn't a well trained actor.

There is also no definitive diagnostic test for Parkinson's disease, ALS or many other neurological conditions, does that make them fake as well?

And you think he's tricked good friends like Chris Dawes, Nathan Jones and the rest of the players as well? All for what exactly? Did he want to be sitting at home last year putting on weight? Tearing up 2 years at 750k for a settlement which was surely much less. Did he also guarantee a contract from Geelong ahead of time? Where is the net gain here? If he really wanted out he could've simply gone through the motions recovering from an array of soft tissue injuries then reached an agreement with the club for a trade. He didn't need a mental health excuse, he was a repeatedly broken down player on a huge salary who didn't want to be at the club.

If he invented a depression purely to get out of the MFC with no other obvious benefit then he has some other form of mental illness, in which case the comparison still exists.

i'm not saying any of those things actually, it is a real shame that you didn't read my response to you properly as it would have saved you typing and wasting the 251 words you just wrote to respond to me about something that i don't actually even believe. Was just saying that your Cancer argument wasn't sound due to the nature of the two conditions and their diagnosis; Depression and Cancer. General commentary, not a display of allegiance to any conspiracy theories. But thank-you for your time.

[DeeSpencer 23,495]

Are you seriously that naive that you believe that rubbish?

Your hypothetical is ridiculous. Apart from being offensive to cancer sufferers, it's just plain pointless. You can't ask a hypothetical in an attempt to prove your point.

I believe there could be more to the story. It wouldn't surprise me if Mitch had lost faith in the Melbourne fitness and medical staff to recuperate him. Or wasn't a fan of Roos or vice versa.

But I do believe he had depression. I also can very well understand that he had advice that said a fresh start would be good for him.

Why is it offensive to cancer sufferers? It's a perfectly plausible scenario. I'm sure there are many people who have had cancer and took time off work before re-entering the work place in a new environment.

It's not pointless at all. The entire point is that so many people still don't grasp that depression is a real and serious illness. If Mitch had cancer we would all be sympathetic to his cause. But guess what, as a young male he's actually more likely to commit suicide due to depression that he is die of cancer. Maybe let that set in for a while.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,536]

I believe there could be more to the story. It wouldn't surprise me if Mitch had lost faith in the Melbourne fitness and medical staff to recuperate him. Or wasn't a fan of Roos or vice versa.

But I do believe he had depression. I also can very well understand that he had advice that said a fresh start would be good for him.

Why is it offensive to cancer sufferers? It's a perfectly plausible scenario. I'm sure there are many people who have had cancer and took time off work before re-entering the work place in a new environment.

It's not pointless at all. The entire point is that so many people still don't grasp that depression is a real and serious illness. If Mitch had cancer we would all be sympathetic to his cause. But guess what, as a young male he's actually more likely to commit suicide due to depression that he is die of cancer. Maybe let that set in for a while.

But he didn't have cancer, sorry but I simply don't get the use of a hypothetical in an argument.

Now you're going into suicide? I really don't get where you're going with this.

I don't know why I have to think about your statistic, it has nothing to do with the argument.

Do you know more people die each year from falling coconuts than shark attacks, think about that...

Edited December 9, 2014 by Ethan Tremblay

[DeeSpencer 23,495]

But he didn't have cancer, sorry but I simply don't get the use of a hypothetical in an argument.

Now you're going into suicide? I really don't get where you're going with this.

People doubt Mitch's motives because he had a mental illness. They wouldn't doubt Mitch if he had a physical illness would they? So I simply used cancer to replace depression in the story. Which bit of that is hard to understand? We aren't talking string theory here.

The point about suicide is also very simple. Suicide is the worst outcome of depression. Just like death is the worst outcome of cancer. If you don't believe depression can be a serious illness requiring someone to take time off work and change jobs then I don't understand how you reconcile the fact that so many are dying from suicide.

If your beliefs about mental illness are stuck in the 1970's then good luck to you. All I will say is that 1 in 6 people get depression. So if it's not you it's likely to be someone close to you. If or really when that happens I hope you are more sympathetic than you seem to be with Mitch.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,536]

People doubt Mitch's motives because he had a mental illness. They wouldn't doubt Mitch if he had a physical illness would they? So I simply used cancer to replace depression in the story. Which bit of that is hard to understand? We aren't talking string theory here.

The point about suicide is also very simple. Suicide is the worst outcome of depression. Just like death is the worst outcome of cancer. If you don't believe depression can be a serious illness requiring someone to take time off work and change jobs then I don't understand how you reconcile the fact that so many are dying from suicide.

If your beliefs about mental illness are stuck in the 1970's then good luck to you. All I will say is that 1 in 6 people get depression. So if it's not you it's likely to be someone close to you. If or really when that happens I hope you are more sympathetic than you seem to be with Mitch.

Can you please direct me to my post where I said I don't believe in depression or mental illness?

I'm simply just saying I'm not as naive as some with respect to Clark.

Edited December 9, 2014 by Ethan Tremblay

[DeeSpencer 23,495]

Can you please direct me to my post where I said I don't believe in depression?

You either don't believe in depression or you don't believe Mitch Clark had depression and somehow (I'd like to know how) you think you are right and Mitch's doctors were all duped by him. Or it was all some big conspiracy. Please clarify.

If you believe in depression as a serious illness, then I'm not sure how you'd turn a reasonable comment about the death rate from suicide in to a joke about coconuts.

I'd also think we wouldn't be arguing and instead you'd understand the basic point I was making that people are attacking Mitch for his trade based on a mental illness when they wouldn't dare do the same if he had requested a trade due to physical illness.