We are the club taking the least number of rookies tomorrow. We are the only club out after the 2nd round. Just a trivia point.

Running HBF with neat foot skills in their early 20's would be good.

We are the club taking the least number of rookies tomorrow. We are the only club out after the 2nd round. Just a trivia point.

And we got out of the draft by pick 53 which is solid as well. The rookie picks I guess you can argue point to us making good calls on Harmes and King last year and therefore them being around for a second rookie. Of course what we really want is them to step up to the senior list in the next year or two and then more rookies to keep coming through, that's how you develop the depth of your list and do more with less picks.

If Saints pass on him, Saad anyone?

Yes yes and yes.

Yes yes and yes.

No, no and no. He's not better than Garlett and I'd rather get valuable games in to Kent, Salem, Toumpas, JKH, Petracca etc.

No, no and no. He's not better than Garlett and I'd rather get valuable games in to Kent, Salem, Toumpas, JKH, Petracca etc.

I think he would be a really good addition, he was providing a good 3rd fwd presence and "getting games into..." I thought we would have learnt didn't work.

I believe that the clubs that were eligible for a 'pre-selected rookie' won't be revealed until after the PSD, as the 6 or so picks in the PSD can take said players.

So if the Lions did 'pre-select' this Hammelman kid, Carlton (for example) can take him in the PSD before the Lions lay claim to him in the Rookie Draft.

That is my understanding.

Knightmare gives his thoughts on Melbourne's Rookie Draft priorities and options:

Some class and pace is needed now that the midfield has been bulked up.

Fordham, Glenn and N.Newman could be some list fits and some guys who can make the grade.
Fordham as a taller outside mid with some class and pace. Glenn as a classy multi-positional player. Then Newman is a ready to go back flanker who can provide some rebound. All have chances to make it.

I believe that the clubs that were eligible for a 'pre-selected rookie' won't be revealed until after the PSD, as the 6 or so picks in the PSD can take said players.

So if the Lions did 'pre-select' this Hammelman kid, Carlton (for example) can take him in the PSD before the Lions lay claim to him in the Rookie Draft.

That is my understanding.

That is not my understanding. If he is preselected, he can't be taken by anyone else in the PSD, or Rookie Draft.

Not interested in more generic mids with experience, I think we've got enough that are fringe 22: McKenzie, Newton, Michie, Riley, Bail, M.Jones - that's gotta be enough soldiers.

When was the last successful KPF rookied? It just doesn't happen, they come early in the draft or F/S.

We don't need any more KPBs.

First ruck depth is OK with Jamar, Gawn, Spencer - if there is a fwd/ruck prospect like King I'd have some interest.

But I'd be looking for small defender and small attacking forward.

Disagree... if available go with Matt Hammelman as ruck/fwd option

Agree ... small attacking fwd ... Tom Wilkinson.

Glenn sounds good.

That said, I don't even know what he looks like.

His grandfather is the astronaut guy, right?

When was the last successful KPF rookied? It just doesn't happen, they come early in the draft or F/S.

We don't need any more KPBs.

First ruck depth is OK with Jamar, Gawn, Spencer - if there is a fwd/ruck prospect like King I'd have some interest.

But I'd be looking for small defender and small attacking forward.

You're right about the dearth of key forwards taken in previous rookie drafts although I suppose James Podsiadly might be a sort of exception in that he was rookied on three occasions (1999, Essendon @ 58, 2001, Collingwood @ 8 and 2009 Geelong @50) and ended up playing a pivotal role in Geelong's 2011 premiership team.

Even, if you don't count him, the fact is that the recruiting landscape is rapidly changing since the advent of free agency and mature rookies. The Pre Season Draft is virtually defunct these days as a result of delisted FA's and many players are now being re-rookied after being delisted by their own and other clubs while the rookie list is now where most of the players from state leagues come from.

I suppose it's all going to depend on what the recruiting staff think are the club's main needs and on the quality of what's available but in any event, most of us will know in a little over four hours' time.

Getting the feeling we will be missing our second ruckman in a couple of years, via the PSD.

Not interested in more generic mids with experience, I think we've got enough that are fringe 22: McKenzie, Newton, Michie, Riley, Bail, M.Jones - that's gotta be enough soldiers.

When was the last successful KPF rookied? It just doesn't happen, they come early in the draft or F/S.

We don't need any more KPBs.

First ruck depth is OK with Jamar, Gawn, Spencer - if there is a fwd/ruck prospect like King I'd have some interest.

But I'd be looking for small defender and small attacking forward.

Tappy!!!!!!

Who is Aaron Vandenberg?

PICK 2AARON VANDENBERGMELBOURNE

PICK 2AARON VANDENBERGMELBOURNE

A smokey?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ainslies-aaron-vandenberg-has-56-possessions-in-big-neafl-win-over-eastlake-20140607-zs0lb.html

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/aaron-vandenberg-and-kade-klemke-named-in-neafl-representative-team-20140616-zs9tn.html

http://www.ainsliefootball.com/content/aaron-vandenberg-selected-neafl-under-22-rep-team

I named Aaron Vandenberg as someone we will look at pick 53 last week.

He had a meeting at the club prior to the draft.

190cm ball magnet midfielder.

Got 56 disposals in one game this year.

Interesting that Kane Lucas got picked up by WCE.

Pick 20: Mitchell White from dandy stingrays

DOB: 10 Apr 1996
Height: 188cm
Weight: 85kg
Local Club: Seaford/St Peter's College

"An on – field leader with the way he speaks, constructive feedback to teammates on where they should be positioning. A great spoiler, time after time again, he uses his leap to spoil effectively over the boundary. Used the ball really nicely to teammates. Played across the back line and through the midfield. Good as a third man up option. Looked a standard above today."

http://madmondayshow.com/2014/06/02/rd-9-dandenong-stingrays-scouting-notes/

Like the bit as a 'third man up option'!!

Edited December 3, 201410 yr by Lucifer's Hero

I named Aaron Vandenberg as someone we will look at pick 53 last week.

He had a meeting at the club prior to the draft.

190cm ball magnet midfielder.

Got 56 disposals in one game this year.

Any other data on him? Im sure the MFC will put stuff up. Happy to see hes 190cm a good start! is he fast? good kick? etc

No thanks to the AFL for their pathetic coverage of the rookie draft. How hard is it to keep the draft tracker up to date?

Both Capiron and Bampton weren't picked up but were both touted as mid to late draft picks in the National Draft.

I wonder what's going on there?