hmm, right now as i'm writing this I am playing guitar, do you think I make mistakes of course I do.. but is that going to stop me from improving and becoming awsome.. NO WAY JACK!!!

have faith he will continue to grow like a seed in the ground to a blosoming flower..

Regards

Donny xo

How do you type and play the guitar simultaneously Donny?

He is just a bit rushed in everything he does. Has missed a lot of football and had no preaseason.

If the Footy Gods are kind and he has a full preaseason, I suspect his disposal will improve significantly. He used the ball quite well until injured last year.

Preseason - No

Established AFL player with 50-70 games - No

Continuity in the team - No

Playing in a competitive team - Mostly No

Until at least some of those things are turned to yes it's a bit hard to judge. If he had clean skills he wouldn't have been available for us to poach from Adelaide. He wont ever take a backwards step on the field. That's a start.

Advice for anyone with criticism of Riley.

Go home, snap your leg in half, and see how [censored] well you can kick a football in 8 or so months.

If that option doesn't sound appealing, shut the [censored] up!

A player's skill is not measured by kicking skills alone, or even disposal kills in total, including handballs. If he were to meet the expectations of D'Landers, Riley would need to be a whole lot better in disposals, and would have eyes in the back of his head.

On the other hand, several posters have said that we shouldn't judge Riley until he has had a clear and uninterrupted pre-season, I don't know if a clear pre-season will make much of a difference, because I don't think that "skills" in the traditional sense of the word are his core contribution to the team.

To me, Riley is reminiscent of a young Nathan Jones. He gets in and under, often pulls out the ball from a pack, has some great evasive skills (far under rated until you see them in action), and dishes the ball off to nearby team mates.

Huge heart, reminds me of Simon Godfrey.

Harsh. Too harsh.

Not a troll at all. You really think missing a target and coughing up a goal in the manner he did is acceptable AFL standard skill level? Truly? I said that I like his attack, but I don't know why we rushed to sign him.

Wasn't he only on a one year contract? Give him a fair go. He's no Gillies.

I really like him and the way he goes about his footy.

He attempts to break tackles and burst through packs, yet lacks polish. He may or may not get to the point where he can successfully do this. If he does, he could be an unbelievable player.

Can polish be taught or practiced?

Bit rich coming from Shaw, a guy who couldn't kick over a jam tin.

Agree and not only that he was as slow as a wet week in Nebraska!

PIG DOG already my favourite player as many know just lurve the in and unders !

Advice for anyone with criticism of Riley.

Go home, snap your leg in half, and see how [censored] well you can kick a football in 8 or so months.

If that option doesn't sound appealing, shut the [censored] up!

ok I've done it. Have you got any plaster of Paris?

Nothing wrong with a Pig Dog.

Tough never gives up until he wins.

Just the attitude about 20 other players need.

The kicking will come.

Getting the ball is the main objective . He has that in spades.

Riley has shown enough

YTo me, Riley is reminiscent of a young Nathan Jones. He gets in and under, often pulls out the ball from a pack, has some great evasive skills (far under rated until you see them in action), and dishes the ball off to nearby team mates.

At the beginning of his career, Jones was constantly criticised for his disposal skills. He could certainly get the ball but often coughed it up with an errant kick or handball, such skill errors have largely been eradicated from his game.

Riley is being given time by the club to find his feet at this level and (we hope) contribute to to the future of the club.

Jones said that it took him till he reached 100 games for everything to "click" into place, Riley certainly has less time than that, but given his apparent desperate attitude he certainty gives one the strong impression that he wants to succeed.

The club chased him so obviously they saw potential.

Another 15 to 20 games played after a full pre-season should tell!

Not a troll at all.

I agree. More of an upper deck sniper.

A good idea watch the last turnover kick across goal. A disgrace

By the way Leoncelli the poster with a fat belly..

DIdn't a North player do the same thing to give Kent a shot at goal.. I am suprised no one has mentioned that!! mistakes happen.. just like your fat belly ..

It's all extremes at the moment.

He's not as good as some think he is, but he's not as bad as some of the posts suggest.

Definitely deserving of another year and there is something to work with, but if he can't improve his skill level he will not make it, full stop.

Are you 10 years old ?

By the way Leoncelli the poster with a fat belly..

DIdn't a North player do the same thing to give Kent a shot at goal.. I am suprised no one has mentioned that!! mistakes happen.. just like your fat belly ..

Personally I don't see too much difference between himself and McKenzie. Riley seems to be able to extract the ball more effectively whereas Jordie plays a more negating tagged role.

They just seem to have a very similar bag of tricks combined with ordinary skills. I hope Riley's disposal improves concurrent with his fitness. I do like his attack though.

This is a discussion forum for supporters not professionals. Also I think homophobia is now officially illegal. Not that I am one but your insults may breach laws in this state. I'm just as entitled to an opinion as you are you unpleasant person.

haha, homophobia is illegal?

homophobia is a state of mind, last time i looked there were no thought laws in this country

i think you meant homosexual discrimination which is quite different to homophobia

haha, homophobia is illegal?

homophobia is a state of mind, last time i looked there were no thought laws in this country

i think you meant homosexual discrimination which is quite different to homophobia

Is discriminating on the basis of hair colour illegal dc?

this is almost as bad as DazzleDaveys Salem thread

Yep, a rubbish thread yet it goes on.

haha, homophobia is illegal?

homophobia is a state of mind, last time i looked there were no thought laws in this country

i think you meant homosexual discrimination which is quite different to homophobia

exactly. The word nancy is exactly that.

Is discriminating on the basis of hair colour illegal dc?

apparently nobody wants sperm donors with red hair.

But it's not illegal to have red hair (yet)

Natural ball winner in close, good overhead, tackles hard and can drift into some good attacking positions.

Some of his kicking last night was poor but generally his kicking is of a reasonable standard.

Came to the club as a 22 year old veteran of 11 games coming back from a broken leg.

Has demonstrated enough to suggest that with a full pre season he should fitter than this year and have improved in the areas he needs to work on.