I find it amazing posters who demand, and expect, loyalty from players - yet turn on them at the drop of a rumour, viciously so in many cases.

Truly amazing, to the extent of it being bizarre.

We're so accustomed to being royally shafted that this seems destined to end in one way, and this would top the lot for me. The accusations surrounding his condition are juvenile at best and despicable at worst, but I understand the anger behind them.

I'll say on the record that I won't judge the guy until a decision is made. He deserves benefit of the doubt. I'm just in a state of disbelief that he could even contemplate trying to walk out on this club to play elsewhere.

I really hope he thinks this through extensively, without his manager always chirping in his ear. There is a thing to be said for plainly right and wrong.

Fremantle parted with Pick 55 to get Gumbleton. Even with history of mental illness you can't tell me clubs won't pay more for Clark.

Er...that's exactly what I was telling you brfe.

If we get a pick better than 40 for him I'd be massively surprised.

Edited September 9, 201411 yr by Moonshadow

Managers are the used car salesmen of the afl.

Perhaps the financial planners ...

Off to the Pies according to 3aw. So maybe a straight trade for Lumumba. Then we get an off field issue and a bloke who can play 22 games off half back as a replacement for an off field great bloke who has massive on field issues, I.e. Getting on the field without breaking down.

Of course I still dream of Mitch playing next to hogan and dominating for 3-4 years but recent history suggests that won't happen.

So part of Dawes reasoning in joining Melbourne was to play next to Clark. They never play together, and the minute it looks like Clark is right to play again, he buggers off to Dawes' old club?

#fistedforever

A smart arse comment by Ross Lyon on Nine News, saying "Mitch who, what is his name". Then the reporter said "Clark" and he said "oh, he had a chance to come to us and didn't want to".

Pretty ordinary and the guy is suffering from a mental illness, by the way.

He then went on to say a number of times he still has issues. Lyon comes across as a very ordinary bloke, a money grubbing dilly.

Even if Clark has overcome his mental illness there is no guarantee that his foot injury won't re occur.

A big risk for anyone who takes him on IMO.

So Collingwood wins out of the deal. Great.

Fremantle i could handle but having to watch him playing for Colllingwood would make me physically ill

So Collingwood wins out of the deal. Great.

I can just picture the graffiti on the club room posters.

lol @ Coin Youngs reply to Ross Lyon

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-09/freo-no-to-whats-his-name-

He sounds lie a 10 year old kid.

Lol if he thinks playing under abuckley will help his sickness. The guy cant even handle Lamumba...

Your joking right?

Do you honestly think Richmond will give up a up and coming star who dominated in his first year who just a new two year deal for an injury prone forward who has played 15 games for 3 years?

Far out people common sense please!

Terry Wallet ain't making calls there any more

Hes given Freo a fair whack in that article

lol @ Coin Youngs reply to Ross Lyon

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-09/freo-no-to-whats-his-name-

He sounds lie a 10 year old kid.

Off to the Pies according to 3aw.

That makes sense?????

A bloke that had multiple soft tissue injuries, goes to a club that couldn't find answers to why multiple players weren't recovering from their soft-tissue injuries this year.

Clark for Lamumba will be a good deal for us. I think HL will do well playing under Roos. And his wackiness does not seem to affect his football.

agree with Robbo on 360, that's a first

What'd Slobbo say?

lol @ Coin Youngs reply to Ross Lyon

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-09/freo-no-to-whats-his-name-

He sounds lie a 10 year old kid.

Even worse, Young focuses entirely on the history of the failed move to Freo and castigates Lyon for not focussing in the next finals game. He said little about how absolutely inappropriate it was for Lyon to say MC was not a well young man. What a snake.

Edited September 9, 201411 yr by sue

The trade period kicks off immediately after father-son bidding, which will clear up whether we have to use a second or third rounder on Stretch Jr. A trade involving Clark for Lumumba would cancel out the difficulty in working out a pick to trade for Lumumba in the event the appropriate selection has already been allocated to Stretch. I want Clark at Melbourne next year, but if we get something good for someone I figured was never coming back from the scrapheap, I won't complain.

Here is what I don't get.

No club will give him a big contract, so why make the move, betray the club that helped you and put unnecessary pressure on yourself?

Pretty much going on about how Mitch owes Melbourne

"Mitch Clark said yesterday he loves Melbourne, i dont think that's entirely true, i dont think Mitch Clark wants to go to Melbourne, i think Mitch Clark should be honest with Melbourne and tell them he does not want to play at Melbourne. Then everyone can move on"

What'd Slobbo say?

lol @ Coin Youngs reply to Ross Lyon

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-09/freo-no-to-whats-his-name-

He sounds lie a 10 year old kid.

LOL, Youngs quote "The trade was a no-brainer and Fremantle messed up what really was impossible to do. Ross should check with his CEO and find out what really transpired that week. I’m still shocked that no one has been made accountable for the trade of a lifetime gone wrong.

The deal of a lifetime that freo missed out on is presumably the deal of a lifetime that melbourne got instead!

I can see two ways that we can benefit from this.

1. Clark goes to Collingwood in exchange for Lumumba. That's a good trade for us. Have no idea why people would think otherwise. Lumumba is a known quantity and a good footballer. Clark is (was) a good footballer but is a massive risk for them in many ways.

2. Clark sounds out other clubs, gets no bites and comes crawling back to the club Dustin Martin-style. We offer him a spot on the rookie list, he comes back in Round 1 and dominates in tandem with Hogan and Dawes. He bowes out in 2017 with Melbourne having just won the flag.

OK, I got carried away on the second point there but both possibilities are realistic.

Probably the only time Dawes & Clark were on the field at the same time