King has his faults but he at least puts some sort of thought into his analysis. What the hell Maclure brings to the table, I don't know.

A third round pick for Toumpas ffs.

Proposals like that would make MFC the most likely club to give up a "Dom Tyson-like steal" trade this coming trade period.

would be disappointed if we traded Toumpas or Trengove

How about we give them a chance to get some continuity under Roos and Stone?

What we got back in a trade wouldn't be worth it, their trade value is way too low right now

I haven't seen much over the last 6 years to warrant Watts being currently traded for a first or second round pick.

Third if you're lucky and there would only be a couple of clubs who would contemplate that.

Put it this way, last year if you were a club who would you have chosen: Watts or Vince?

I wouldn be against trading Grimes though

David King cops a lot of criticism when hes usually right

Remember he was calling for Neelds head just 10 games into his coaching career, and he was spot in that it was a disaster to hire him in the first place

meanwhile MFC supporters called King a moron

The same David King that wrote off Geelong with about 8 games to go in 2011?

I'm not against trading Trengove and Toumpas and in return picking up some quicker players.

They only exampled players.But as usual DL has taken it verbatim

Most dee supporters are hoping the fairies at the bottom of the garden will do the job.

That's okay.

The family are probably a pack of liars....

I've got no doubt that players understand or are taught how the rumours/speculation/friend of the family stuff works. I've got no doubt either that a player is capable of saying to his sister: 'if anyone asks, tell them that ...' He's not lying to her, he's just giving her a script, and she's not lying to anyone else since she's just passing on the script. It's not a lie but it may not be the truth either.

Of course if it was pillow talk maybe that might change the credibility ratio a bit ...

They only exampled players.But as usual DL has taken it verbatim

Most dee supporters are hoping the fairies at the bottom of the garden will do the job.

Yeah I tried to point this out twice, but the rage and hate blinds most.

I only wish we could trade some of those footy commentators.

Yeah I tried to point this out twice, but the rage and hate blinds most.

Its not rage and hate.

Its the inability to understand the game.

Hope i catch some fish with that one.And the english language.

Weve got enough teachers as members.

Edited August 13, 201411 yr by jazza

"It's" in this context young Jazza and always upper case "I" for the personal pronoun.

Oh dear, four pages of the same old same old because two talking heads decided to regurgitate the same old rubbish that's been floating around for the last six months, I'll tell you what I will ask Roos how much notice he takes of the media and their input/output/[censored]

I've just posted what I heard.

Believe it or not....your choice.

I couldn't care less.

"It's" in this context young Jazza and always upper case "I" for the personal pronoun.

Pedant.

I haven't seen much over the last 6 years to warrant Watts being currently traded for a first or second round pick.

Third if you're lucky and there would only be a couple of clubs who would contemplate that.

Put it this way, last year if you were a club who would you have chosen: Watts or Vince?

But this begs the question ( in my minds view) What if a club expresses interest in Watts and IS prepared to offer something . That might be straight pick, trade , trade and pick, trade pick upgrades etc etc.

I would think the club would listen to a serious offer, its just not advertising a fire sale and why would you.

Pedant.

What, he taught at a seminary school?

Theoretical upside?? they either have upside or they dont! What the hell can be theoretical about it?

Basically, because they are such high picks they should be capable of significant improvement, that doesn't always mean they are, this theoretical.

There value would be based on what they could be in theory not what they are, or have shown

Its not rage and hate.

Its the inability to understand the game.

Hope i catch some fish with that one.And the english language.

Weve got enough teachers as members.

I'll bite, I find the views expressed in some of your posts both 'enlightening and educational', whether they teach me anything is a matter of conjecture

They only exampled players.But as usual DL has taken it verbatim

Most dee supporters are hoping the fairies at the bottom of the garden will do the job.

..... was that a Dawkins reference?

I'm not a member of any other footy forums but I'd wager not a lot of them have Dawkins references in one thread and Shakespeare quotes in another.

This forum is so awesome :D

I've just posted what I heard.

Believe it or not....your choice.

I couldn't care less.

Same here.

What you've been told may be right or what I've been told may be right.

No ones calling anyone a liar although you seem to have issue with it.

Was the pact a Pinky Promise or the verve of youth ?

Things change !!

Yeah I tried to point this out twice, but the rage and hate blinds most.

Except that there was more credit being given to the proposal than you have stated, or perceived.

King said repeatedly that this was a vital trade and draft period for Roos. Whateley sad it might seem bold but now was the time to make such decisions, to which King agreed. Now or never was a theme of the discussion. The point remains that if any of Watts, Grimes, Trengove or Toumpas stagnate further next season, their trade value will plummet.

So the proposal was put on the table and the merits of it are being discussed here. If you don't wish to do that, that's fine.

Edited August 14, 201411 yr by P-man

Except that there was more credit being given to the proposal than you have stated, or perceived.

King said repeatedly that this was a vital trade and draft period for Roos. Whateley sad it might seem bold but now was the time to make such decisions, to which King agreed. Now or never was a theme of the discussion. The point remains that if any of Watts, Grimes, Trengove or Toumpas stagnate further next season, their trade value will plummet.

So the proposal was put on the table and the merits of it are being discussed here. If you don't wish to do that, that's fine.

...have they stagnated this season?....Trengove and Toumpas have spent most of it injured and all the hyperbole about the other two is just that

David King cops a lot of criticism when hes usually right

Remember he was calling for Neelds head just 10 games into his coaching career, and he was spot in that it was a disaster to hire him in the first place

meanwhile MFC supporters called King a moron

He was also the first to say Scully was definately going to GWS and had agreed to the deal.

The MFC called a press conference at which Scully said " I have made no decision".

Hmm turns out he was spot with that one.

The GWS boys have made a pact to stay together.

You can forget about Shiel, Boyd, Patton, Cameron, Tomlinson etc etc.

pact my arse. throw enough money at them and the pact will soon be forgotten!