Nic Nat criticisms starting to build

[jnrmac 20,186]

From the Barrett article:

The outcome was as predictable as a promise made by an opposition leader being broken when sitting in the prime minister’s chair.

Interesting seeing as his brother is Press Secretary for one T Abbott......

[Sir Why You Little 37,128]

From the Barrett article:

The outcome was as predictable as a promise made by an opposition leader being broken when sitting in the prime ministers chair.

Interesting seeing as his brother is Press Secretary for one T Abbott......

Is that so!!

[TheoX 1,222]

Thing about Scally what happens when he's contacted up there isno way the gws will want to pay him a million plus or even half a million he will need to take a huge pay cut.

Scully will have no qualms about walking out of there for a team willing to pay more.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Scully will have no qualms about walking out of there for a team willing to pay more.

Yeh but who and why would any other club pay more, u don't pay good coin for your taggers.

[old dee 23,872]

Scully will have no qualms about walking out of there for a team willing to pay more.

Anything

[Bingo 305]

I just wanted to post something because i have a new avatar...

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

And I still can't work out why GWS payed such massive overs for such an underwhelming player as Scully.

I think you'll find this has been discussed at depth in various other Demonland threads with the majority view being that Tom was the set of steak knives thrown in at the last minute to get the Phil Scully deal over the line.

[Akum 2,660]

One thing about both Watts & Scully is that neither of them have physically developed much from the day they were drafted, compared to their peers. That's nobody's fault, they just don't have that sort of body. It's something that couldn't have been foreseen at the time.

And with the "rolling maul" style of 2014 footy, there has never been more emphasis on physical strength than there is now.

[Chook 15,022]

One thing about both Watts & Scully is that neither of them have physically developed much from the day they were drafted, compared to their peers. That's nobody's fault, they just don't have that sort of body. It's something that couldn't have been foreseen at the time.

And with the "rolling maul" style of 2014 footy, there has never been more emphasis on physical strength than there is now.

The year they were going to be drafted, Tom Scully and Jack Trengove were wheeled out on the Footy Show besides Jonathan Brown and Barry Hall. Sam Newman compared the bodies of Scully and Trengove with those of Hall and Brown and just said: "You think you're gonna be able to match it with these guys?"

Evidently he was right to ask that.

[daisycutter 29,738]

From the Barrett article:

The outcome was as predictable as a promise made by an opposition leader being broken when sitting in the prime minister’s chair.

Interesting seeing as his brother is Press Secretary for one T Abbott......

doesn't take much brain power to make that statement regardless of who your brother is

still, probably took barrett a few hours to think that one up

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

By far his most impressive highlights weren't the goals he kicked.

He was actually using a bit of pace.

[Sir Why You Little 37,128]

One thing about both Watts & Scully is that neither of them have physically developed much from the day they were drafted, compared to their peers. That's nobody's fault, they just don't have that sort of body. It's something that couldn't have been foreseen at the time.

And with the "rolling maul" style of 2014 footy, there has never been more emphasis on physical strength than there is now.

What it does prove beyond doubt is that "Tanking" on any level to increase the value of draft pick nominations is just not worth even considering...

The Gamble is way to high. And not smart at all...

[Adam The God 30,411]

And I still can't work out why GWS payed such massive overs for such an underwhelming player as Scully.

I can. I reckon his signing was a symbol, more than anything. It showed that GWS could get anyone they wanted, even if he was a highly valued number one draft pick. You've got to remember that the truth was rather different - no one wanted to go to GWS.

And that first video above, the one against Freo. Wow. We moved the ball beautifully from half back. I wish we'd simply readjusted our defensive structures under a new coach, rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water and removed the attacking flair. Ah well.

[Adam The God 30,411]

By far his most impressive highlights weren't the goals he kicked.

He was actually using a bit of pace.

Spot on, CB. You can just see his confidence there. I can't remember him having that, but it shows he had it once upon a time. The handball one-twos, really great stuff. I reckon it'd be worth showing Jack some of that.

[Whispering_Jack 30,664]

The debate continues to rage but irrespective of how poor Naitanui's form has been recently, he does have that ability to quickly turn a game that I haven't seen yet from Jack Watts. Otherwise, both would be regarded as disappointing under-achievers given their high draft positions and that will remain the case as long as we have drafts. Just look at Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman and Toumpas from a couple of years ago - although we should still be prepared to give them some time.

Scully is the one who really has managed to escape scrutiny. Given his pay packet, I find it extraordinary that anyone can talk up his performance against Gold Coast. Firstly, you don't pay a million bucks plus a year for a tagger, let alone one whose opponent kicks two goals, gets 30 disposals and lays eleven tackles in a 40 point win while getting only 6 kicks and 10 handballs himself. I put that down as a massive fail when compared to Ablett's 19 disposals against Jordie McKenzie (with some help) up on the Coast last year.

The million dollar man should be under the microscope because every week there are teammates out there who are paid far less but contributing far more to their team's effort than Scully and how he's managed two top 5 b & f's in his two years at that club is quite frankly , a complete joke.

[pantaloons 2,019]

What it does prove beyond doubt is that "Tanking" on any level to increase the value of draft pick nominations is just not worth even considering...

The Gamble is way to high. And not smart at all...

Except if you're Hawthorn in 2004. Or Collingwoood the following year. Or West Coast in 2007. The list goes on and on. Sorry, but we are more an exception than the rule. Any semi-competently run sporting club around the world would have at the very least been playing finals after all these picks. We've just been scarred by complete drafting and development failure.

[Guest]

From the Barrett article:

The outcome was as predictable as a promise made by an opposition leader being broken when sitting in the prime minister’s chair.

Interesting seeing as his brother is Press Secretary for one T Abbott......

Why doesn't that surprise me?

[Sir Why You Little 37,128]

Except if you're Hawthorn in 2004. Or Collingwoood the following year. Or West Coast in 2007. The list goes on and on. Sorry, but we are more an exception than the rule. Any semi-competently run sporting club around the world would have at the very least been playing finals after all these picks. We've just been scarred by complete drafting and development failure.

Fair points but i disagree.

Whorethorn were the exception.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

By far his most impressive highlights weren't the goals he kicked.

He was actually using a bit of pace.

Saw Bleasy a couple of times too.

[whatwhat say what 22,946]

The richest player in our game is having a Barry Crocker against the Power.

[dees189227 12,398]

yep just saw the stats for port v gws. Half way through the 3rd quarter Scully 5 possessions.

[whatwhat say what 22,946]

had a purple patch and doubled that to 10, with a goal to boot.

[KingDingAling 3,758]

The richest player in our game is having a Barry Crocker against the Power.

Kelly is already better than Scully.

Big difference in those two.

[jnrmac 20,186]

yep just saw the stats for port v gws. Half way through the 3rd quarter Scully 5 possessions.

The ultimate indignation for Sheedy who thought he was shafting us. Did us the greatest favour ever!!!

[Adam The God 30,411]

That [censored] Dwayne Russell just said that there will again be speculation that NN is carrying an injury this week, after another lean second half. I know DR hates MFC, but his views are endemic of the footy media. If NN struggles, it's because of injury. If Watts is struggling, he should be dropped.

Edited May 4, 2014 by AdamFarr