Terlich has been good defensively one on one and we will need a player who can do similiar . Physical able to win a contest and break away to intercept . When Roos says Terlichs been great this year he is not joking . He was on saturday , won some great battles out on the wing half back flank . Ocassional turnover but its decision making more than skill error. Clisby may come in id like to see Jetta .

Blease in for Terlich if he is injured

Wouldnt consider any other changes. Let the winning team roll on and only make changes when necessary

It isnt necessary .

Was VERY impressed by Kent's game, thought he was one of the only shining lights in the first quarter!

My problem at the moment is that, unless Toumpas or Trengove find some speed or Blease finds a tank, no-one can come in for Bail, that's what I meant by "I just have to suck it in until we see some depth in this shallow list of ours."

Though if I have to give a name to satisfy your answer I'll say Hogan, just because I can't wait to see him play!

Bail had a great game why do you want to drop him?

Bail is a really intelligent runner, as well as being a good runner in the athletic sense of combining pace and endurance. He ran to exactly the right place with exactly the right timing and at top speed past Dawes, and just trusted that Dawes would somehow get it to him. It was a quality running goal which was so well done (by al concerned) that it was made to look easy. If Bail hadn't run the right place, Dawes would have looked stupid for not trying to grab it.

Bail also found a lot of space inside 50 for his other goal. But he should have had 4 this week, and should have had 4 against the Saints.

He is really talented in term of getting himself into such good places. He just really needs to work on his disposal though; otherwise he's just another runner.

He also produced 10 tackles and pressured his opponent all day

B - Cam Pedersen - Tom McDonald - Jeremy Howe

HB - Jack Grimes - Alexis Georgiou - Daniel Cross

C - Jack Watts - Dom Tyson - Bernie Vince

HF - Dean Kent - James Frawley - Rohan Bail

F - JKH - Chris Dawes - Lynden Dunn

R - Jake Spencer - Nathan Jones - Jack Viney

I/C - Jordie McKenzie - Matt Jones - Michael Evans

Sub - Mitch Clisby

Bring on the Suns

No changes except for injury. Roos has to stick to his guns on earning a place and using Casey to develop players.

Both Toump and Trenners need to spend more time working on their game away from the spotlight.

We wont see Salem until well into the second half of the season.

Anyone know how Garland went?

For any poster who wants Blease in, read Brad Miller's assessment from last week, yes he is an excitement machine, but until he runs both ways, we won't see him

Terlich's errors gave Carlton 2 goals in the first quarter. First one, turnover by kicking directly to a Carlton player and second, falling over at the crucial moment to give his opponent an easy goal.

No one dispute's Terlich's attack on the footy but he needs to stop making dumb decisions and errors.

Gold Coast are a lot faster than us. I don't think we can bring in Toumpas or Trengove at this time.

the master - I think Trengove is at Casey to try and undo some of Neeld's handy work. Ie. his efforts to make him more defensive have turned him into a reactor (and a slow one at that) rather than an initiator. I think we should we should set up a fund to offer a reward to anyone that can find Trengove's speed.

Clisby in for mine and either Evans or Blease as sub.

Garland and Jamar straight in.

This game is a must win. When was the last back to back we had??

Garland and Jamar straight in.

This game is a must win. When was the last back to back we had??

I don't see any great advantage in Jamar atm. He will slow the side down and I do not consider him a good tap ruckman because he consistently directs the ball to his feet.

Garland is likely still underdone but I agree he will bolster (and general) our defence.

B - Cam Pedersen - Tom McDonald - Jeremy Howe

HB - Jack Grimes - Alexis Georgiou - Daniel Cross

C - Jack Watts - Dom Tyson - Bernie Vince

HF - Dean Kent - James Frawley - Rohan Bail

F - JKH - Chris Dawes - Lynden Dunn

R - Jake Spencer - Nathan Jones - Jack Viney

I/C - Jordie McKenzie - Matt Jones - Michael Evans

Sub - Mitch Clisby

Bring on the Suns

I think thats not too far off my future best 22 - I might move Dunn back and replace Pedersen with Hogan, replace Georgiou with Garland, replace Spencer with a fit and firing/developing Gawn and replace Bail with an improved Trengove/Michie.

B - Lynden Dunn - Tom McDonald - Jeremy Howe

HB - Jack Grimes - Colin Garland - Daniel Cross

C - Jack Watts - Dom Tyson - Bernie Vince

HF - Dean Kent - James Frawley - Trengove/Michie

F - JKH - Chris Dawes - Jesse Hogan

R - Max Gawn - Nathan Jones - Jack Viney

I/C - Jordie McKenzie - Matt Jones - Mitch Clisby/Strauss

Sub - Blease

As kids develop you could add the likes of Toumpas, Salem etc.

Howe and Frawley have the ability to switch around and annoy the opposition. This could be a key to our future - flexibility just keep bothering the opposition (Watts is another who can go forward or back/Gawn ruck and forward etc.)

Edited April 13, 201411 yr by Young Dee

Interesting the number of posters who see Garland coming in for Georgiou. I see that as unlikely. If Garland were to come back next week, I would have thought he'd take Howe's place in the backline with Howe moving to the wing and Evans being the unlucky midfielder who makes way.

However, I don't expect Garland to play and would expect a half back VFL defender to take Terlich's place. Whether that should be Clisby, Toumpas, Nicholson or Blease I don't know. I'll read Brad Miller's VFL reviews with interest. Two of the only three players he commented on last week without any negative critiquing regarding fitness, disposal or touch made it into the squad (McKenzie and Nicholson).

Interesting the number of posters who see Garland coming in for Georgiou. I see that as unlikely. If Garland were to come back next week, I would have thought he'd take Howe's place in the backline with Howe moving to the wing and Evans being the unlucky midfielder who makes way.

However, I don't expect Garland to play and would expect a half back VFL defender to take Terlich's place. Whether that should be Clisby, Toumpas, Nicholson or Blease I don't know. I'll read Brad Miller's VFL reviews with interest. Two of the only three players he commented on last week without any negative critiquing regarding fitness, disposal or touch made it into the squad (McKenzie and Nicholson).

Yes I also doubt he will come straight in - should have at least 1 game at Casey (maybe 60-70% game time)

Bail had a great game why do you want to drop him?

I didn't say we should drop him, just that I'm not sold on him yet. He's been there for five years and aside from the match versus Carlton has frustrated me through every single one of his appearances.

Like I said there is no one to come in and replace him right now but if we ever had a full list he would not be in my best 22.

Like for like, it just must be Clisby. He was good last year, and is in Casey's best 2 weeks running. Otherwise, there won't be any changes, as the only other who must come in is Garland, and he'll play a full game at Casey this week. And for those who think Georgiou will go out for Garland, unless he has a stinker against GCS, he's gonna stay, and should. Pederson will go.

B - Cam Pedersen - Tom McDonald - Jeremy Howe

HB - Jack Grimes - Alexis Georgiou - Daniel Cross

C - Jack Watts - Dom Tyson - Bernie Vince

HF - Dean Kent - James Frawley - Rohan Bail

F - JKH - Chris Dawes - Lynden Dunn

R - Jake Spencer - Nathan Jones - Jack Viney

I/C - Jordie McKenzie - Matt Jones - Michael Evans

Sub - Mitch Clisby

Bring on the Suns

You banged on in the McKenzie thread about how he smashed Ablett, how underrated he is.....yet in your team he starts on the bench. Is Ablett starting on the bench?

Just because we won, it doesn't mean all 22 players played well. There is nothing wrong with upgrading and improving the team after a win.

I don't see any great advantage in Jamar atm. He will slow the side down and I do not consider him a good tap ruckman because he consistently directs the ball to his feet.

That's also all Spencer does at the moment.

Jamar is a no for me, he needs to put his abilities on show in the vfl first. Who knows where he's at, when did he last play? lol
I like spencer as the main man and then pederson helping out. Pedo is not that tall but geez he puts up a good contest even against guys that are significantly taller.

Having said that if Gawn were ready and had a run in vfl already, we could play two ruckmen. Problem being neither of them can rest forward yet - i don think anyway.

And i guess thats where jamar can provide a contest - in the forward line. Which might be necessary given suns tall fwds, frawley may have to go down back on s.day or one of the others.

Sorry post is al over the shop.

Jamar gives us nothing around the ground even at VFL level. Would rather Spencer at the moment.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-13/coaches-back-lethal-comments

I disagree, Spencer does heaps more.

If there was leadership shown then Jake Spencer showed much of it, getting in and fighting for the ball and clearing pathways for midfielders.

For a rover(excuse my last century terms) to see your ruckman get down and dirty, is very inspirational.

Please explain how was he "great"?

Yes he will be a footballer but looked very lost out there today, no fault of his own.

JKH's run down tackle in the first Q was the game changer. That's when the Demon woke up.

That's also all Spencer does at the moment.

But Spencer offered us something around the ground on Saturday. I can't remember the last time Jamar did that.

I'd like to see Garland come in, even if underdone a bit. If Terlich is unable to play, it's a straight swap. If not, Evans is the unlucky one.

I didn't say we should drop him, just that I'm not sold on him yet. He's been there for five years and aside from the match versus Carlton has frustrated me through every single one of his appearances.

Like I said there is no one to come in and replace him right now but if we ever had a full list he would not be in my best 22.

Bail is in mine until JKH, Kent, Evans, Blease or Toumpas go past him. We simply don't have anyone else at half forward who runs out a full game, always leads to the right spots, lays defensive tackles and regularly has shots on goal (even if Bail misses a lot).

I'm hoping by next year JKH and Kent are clearly above Bail but it will probably take them at least another preseason as well as however many games they can play this year.

My thinking on Bail is that his bad attributes (mainly kicking) might well cost him being a regular player (or even on the list) of a top 4 club, but his good attributes in his run, pace, hardness, tackling would probably have him able to slide in to a top 4 team and contribute a lot. There's very little gap between Bail and guys like Puopolo or Matt De Boer who played in the grand final last year.