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Stanrge comment. 24 touches at 75%, 4 clearances, 9 inside 50s, and a flying punch through the goal at the end which helped seal the game in a tight finish - a change of fortunes for Ricky (*cough*queensbirthday*cough*)

Funny to see the numbers, I also didn't think he had a great game while watching, and i've thought the same virtually every time he's played for them. They keep picking him though ..

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Stanrge comment. 24 touches at 75%, 4 clearances, 9 inside 50s, and a flying punch through the goal at the end which helped seal the game in a tight finish - a change of fortunes for Ricky (*cough*queensbirthday*cough*)

without being pedantic, if its the dropped mark you're referring to not QB but round 2 2010 the week after Hawks belted us off the park and we were expecting the mother of all hidings from Collingwood. Would take a similar result this week

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Petterd's so-called dropped mark was not in a Queens Birthday clash. It was earlier in the season. Yes it was against the filth. Also it was a next to impossible grab not an easy dropped mark as many seem to incorrectly recall.

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Sadly it's going to take another few years to get some of these highly paid grand stand sitters off our list.

We need to start drafting well and developing our own.

We were on the right track doing this, we just didn't draft right, then we went away from the idea of developing our own superstars.

Draft go-getters with mature bodies and aggressive attitudes. (ie, Ollie Wines, Jesse Hogan, Matt Crouch type players).

Do not draft project players.

For every Jackson McCrae - there is 10 Jordan Gysberts.

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There are six players on the 2014 list that are IMO are lead in our saddle bags.

The reason is that for a number of seasons now they have given us very few games and are constantly injured.

The prospects for them given much contribution this year and beyond are minimal.

Jamar, since 2010 he has spent more time injured than playing. His contribution has been one good season in 2010.

Gawn, two knee reco's he is into his fifth season and has 17 games to his credit. Now has hamstring tightness and will probably be out another x weeks. If you cannot get on the park you are useless.

Dawes, the master of soft tissue injuries twelve games so far and god knows when he will front in 2014.

Clark do I need to list the saga of problems? No

Strauss into his sixth year for 24 games, broken legs and seemingly a major injury in four of his six years, ordinary player who is barely AFL standard.

Tapscott into his fifth season for 45 games, came to us with a hip injury and has I don't believe had one injury free pre season. Plays the tough guy but does not seem to have the body to go along with it. Injured constantly and again is barely AFL standard.

These players are chronic injury problems IMO will not get any better.

As soon as possible these players should be replaced.

I know it is easier said than done. As soon as contracts expire move them on.

If we can negotiate early termination lets do it.

If you cannot get on the park then all the talent in the world is of no use.

We need players that can be part of playing side, the above are liabilities.

You neglected to mention Sam Blease. Drafted the same year as Strauss [2008], who also incurred a broken leg in his first year and who also has given us only 24 games [yet ironically tentatively selected for this week]!


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without being pedantic, if its the dropped mark you're referring to not QB but round 2 2010 the week after Hawks belted us off the park and we were expecting the mother of all hidings from Collingwood. Would take a similar result this week

Ah right you are.

A 1 point loss? I'd take it. Sadly I don't think it's going to be anything close to that.

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Can't believe Petterd is being pilloried for 1 dropped mark. Overall he showed plenty and had a touch of mongrel - a quality sorely lacking in recent years.

Ease up, no-one's pillorying him. I'm commending him on a(nother) decent game for the Tiges. He was one of my faves and I believe he should still be playing for us. C'est la Neeld.

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I said on here the year Jamar had his best season, that we should clear him. He was in high demand and we could have got a decent player and a good pick or even 2 picks. Many on here laughed at me. Since then he has given us nothing.

I said the same thing on Demonology and was ridiculed out of the building - "oh yeah, we should just get rid of all our good players because they have high trade value!!"

At the time it was a decision between Jamar, Martin & Gawn from memory and I thought we'd get more value from trading Jamar and not much less output from Martin if we kept him. Martin went to Brisbane for not much, Jamar was re-signed for 3 years and can barely jump off the ground at ruck contests, taps it to his feet when he does, gives us nothing around the ground other than a get out kick to the half back flank from kickouts and is back to living up to his "donuts" nickname which is the norm rather than the exception throughout his career.

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Stanrge comment. 24 touches at 75%, 4 clearances, 9 inside 50s, and a flying punch through the goal at the end which helped seal the game in a tight finish - a change of fortunes for Ricky (*cough*queensbirthday*cough*)

Yeah but look at his hair-cut. No way he'd get a game with us looking like that.

Shave those sideburns hippy!

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C'mon you don't seriously think McDonald is going to play on Sunday do you?

I wouldn't put a high probability on it. But there were 2 players mentioned in the doomsayers litany. Currently looks like out of the 50/50 we may get 50%. So I'll play the same game: Do you seriously think there is no chance that Fitz will play?

Clearly we are going through a very rough injury patch at just the worst time for our club in our position. Maybe even worse in some ways than a team going into its first grand final which loses all its tall players the week before. But we have enough doom and gloom without some posters looking to squeeze out every possible negative. Surely this is the time to squeeze out positives if anything.

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Max Gawn's latest Instagram post. Wouldn't be surprised if it's worse than soreness

There's no such diagnosis as 'soreness'. In the biz, we say there is 'no such thing as a 2 week hamstring'. It's a tear, and will be minimum 3 weeks. They all are. So round 5 at earliest for Big Maxy.

There's a lot of grand statements on here about cutting injury prone players from the list. This is short term impatience borne of desperation to get a successful start to the season. We all feel it, but this kind of absolutist CUT THEM ALL!!! talk is rubbish. Almost all players go through repeat injury phases, and a very select few have very few injuries (Nathan Jones). There is as much chance that the players being talked about here get into an injury free phase that sees them string 50 games together with little interruption. NONE of their injuries are career threatening. It's bad luck, it's bad timing for the club, and it's coincidental that they're all talls.

See it for what it is, and suck it up Demonlanders.

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There's no such diagnosis as 'soreness'. In the biz, we say there is 'no such thing as a 2 week hamstring'. It's a tear, and will be minimum 3 weeks. They all are. So round 5 at earliest for Big Maxy.

There's a lot of grand statements on here about cutting injury prone players from the list. This is short term impatience borne of desperation to get a successful start to the season. We all feel it, but this kind of absolutist CUT THEM ALL!!! talk is rubbish. Almost all players go through repeat injury phases, and a very select few have very few injuries (Nathan Jones). There is as much chance that the players being talked about here get into an injury free phase that sees them string 50 games together with little interruption. NONE of their injuries are career threatening. It's bad luck, it's bad timing for the club, and it's coincidental that they're all talls.

See it for what it is, and suck it up Demonlanders.

Go away and find somewhere else to post your logical comments, full of sensibility. It isn't wanted around here.


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There's no such diagnosis as 'soreness'. In the biz, we say there is 'no such thing as a 2 week hamstring'. It's a tear, and will be minimum 3 weeks. They all are. So round 5 at earliest for Big Maxy.

There's a lot of grand statements on here about cutting injury prone players from the list. This is short term impatience borne of desperation to get a successful start to the season. We all feel it, but this kind of absolutist CUT THEM ALL!!! talk is rubbish. Almost all players go through repeat injury phases, and a very select few have very few injuries (Nathan Jones). There is as much chance that the players being talked about here get into an injury free phase that sees them string 50 games together with little interruption. NONE of their injuries are career threatening. It's bad luck, it's bad timing for the club, and it's coincidental that they're all talls.

See it for what it is, and suck it up Demonlanders.

Having done my fair share I know you are right here, for me it was always 4. Every time I would tempt the one week early....bang, gone again.

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I think this clip sums up my feelings about the injury list, and the MFC in general.

The club is the little red car..and Basil is me.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usmKc2JQzIM

Thank you P-man, that is the lift I needed on this cold and wet Friday morning thinking about what is shaping as yet another hard weekend for us Dee supporters. What ever happened to great shows like Fawlty Towers?

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It's funny Petterd is mentioned when others are discussing injury prone players that should be waived at the end of the year.

Petterd, himself, said that the club just couldn't wait any more to get him on the park.

Now he is right and he is playing a role down at Punt Rd.

You have to make a judgement call on each of these players - you can't make sweeping calls over all the players that have struggled to get on the park - you won't build a decent list that way.

Throw out those extra talented, but injured, players and replace them with low-end talent at the end of the draft and you are not helping the situation - you are probably making it worse.

Number 2 for Carlton last night was Menzel - his family has a history of knee issues but loads of talent - sometimes that loyalty pays you back.

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Would be good if we hadn't gone out our way to sign up expensive injury known ( there were histories for all to know ) players .

Better a more generic goer with some ability than a "brilliant" gun who never plays.

Sometimes the paddock bomb is more useful than the ferrari in the workshop.

What some here need to suck up , if thats the going meme, is we went about it wrong and are paying dearly.

We went for profile franchise like players as our 'saviours' and f'd up.

Season hasnt really started and we're back to catch up footy..again.

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You neglected to mention Sam Blease. Drafted the same year as Strauss [2008], who also incurred a broken leg in his first year and who also has given us only 24 games [yet ironically tentatively selected for this week]!

I still harbour a small hope he might be useful in 2015

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