So what exactly is wrong with Viney?He was listed as concussed wasn't he?

So when will he be right?

Concussion, just needs a bit of a rest i think

No problem RN

Four to six weeks

Got it?

Oh gosh...haha Thx mate

For round 2, Mitch Clark's "TBC" has transmogrified into an "indefinite", Jesse Hogan remains a "TBA" which means he definitely won't be right for round 1, Chris Dawes is treading water and a few blokes listed as "test" are, in all likelihood, being considered for the LTI. Expect a few changes on Thursday night.

Mitch Clark (personal leave) indefinite

Chris Dawes (calf) 2-3 weeks

Jack Fitzpatrick (concussion) test

Colin Garland (ankle) test

Jesse Hogan (back) TBA

Mark Jamar (foot) 1 week

Tom McDonald (corked thigh) test

Jordie McKenzie (foot) test

Aidan Riley (leg) 1 week

F--king DAWES!

That list sucks.

F--king DAWES!

Perhaps it's time to "correct him".

Misson via the MFC twitter just listed T-Mac and Fitzmagic as 50/50. To ever play again.

F--king DAWES!

I must admit, I feel the same as you do C & B. What started as a "tightness" in the calf from a intraclub has turned into a constant 2-3 weeks. I mean what really happened?? Did he rip the muscle off the bone or something? Is it a compound fracture that the med staff didn't notice at first??? I'm thinking 223 is the new 426. I think some of these guys who are on good money should toughen up a bit. Now before everybody jumps down my throat, I ask you this - would the great Jimmy Stynes have been out there playing? We all know the answer.

Jordie McKenzie (foot) test

I thought he played in the Casey praccy match last weekend? Or is this a new injury..?

I must admit, I feel the same as you do C & B. What started as a "tightness" in the calf from a intraclub has turned into a constant 2-3 weeks. I mean what really happened?? Did he rip the muscle off the bone or something? Is it a compound fracture that the med staff didn't notice at first??? I'm thinking 223 is the new 426. I think some of these guys who are on good money should toughen up a bit. Now before everybody jumps down my throat, I ask you this - would the great Jimmy Stynes have been out there playing? We all know the answer.

I swear it has gotten way worse than it used to be - how many dollars are being thrown around in trying to manage these 'elite sportsmen' who seem to be made out of crepe paper, are all these so-called experts in sports science making any difference whatsoever, I would hate to see the state of our list without them, half of demonland would be taking the field. It is the same every single year and I have had enough, honest to God, along with the pathetic rabble that umpiring has become it is turning me away from the sport.

I thought he played in the Casey praccy match last weekend? Or is this a new injury..?

He is no big loss Grapeviney.

Worry about McDonald and Fitzpatrick coming up for this weekend.

Dawes and Hogan are no surprise. I'm pumped to see Garlo almost ready to resume though as he gives our backline some extra experience, or we have the option to use him as a forward target while Dawes and Hogan return. If our backline of Chip, McDonald and Georgiou stays fit then we have a little more flexibility if we need it.

Seems like the medical staff are so cautious these days that, if the guy has a runny nose, he's put on ice as a precautionary measure, and told to rest for "two to three". Have to wonder if they've taken it just a tad too far...

Also bleedin' frustrating the the VFL don't have a game this week. Misso said both Jamar and Garlo would have played with Casey this week, if there was a game. Suppose it would have been the same for Viney.

Just wish the VFL was in complete sync with the AFL season. makes it so hard for guys coming back from injury if there's no VFL game for them to come back in.

I swear it has gotten way worse than it used to be - how many dollars are being thrown around in trying to manage these 'elite sportsmen' who seem to be made out of crepe paper, are all these so-called experts in sports science making any difference whatsoever, I would hate to see the state of our list without them, half of demonland would be taking the field. It is the same every single year and I have had enough, honest to God, along with the pathetic rabble that umpiring has become it is turning me away from the sport.

I don't think it has anything to do with our resources or FD personnel C and B

I believe there are some people that for whatever reason cannot take the punishment that modern AFL demands.

Some rarely have soft tissue injuries and others just seem to move from one bout to the next with long periods out in between.

We seem to have the luck of recruiting more of them than most others.

It also does not help that our list is not as good as most other clubs

i.e our good player stocks are lower to start with and a few injuries to the better players means there are no one to take up the slack.

My father used to say donkeys never get injured the race winners seem to all the time.

Look at the MFC, Pedersen never seems to get a soft tissue injury but Dawes has them constantly.

Luck of the draw i believe.

Just maddening that we always seem to be on the wrong end every year.

Also bleedin' frustrating the the VFL don't have a game this week. Misso said both Jamar and Garlo would have played with Casey this week, if there was a game. Suppose it would have been the same for Viney.

Just wish the VFL was in complete sync with the AFL season. makes it so hard for guys coming back from injury if there's no VFL game for them to come back in.

You believe him?

He can say that Vagg without fear he will be proved wrong.

I must admit, I feel the same as you do C & B. What started as a "tightness" in the calf from a intraclub has turned into a constant 2-3 weeks. I mean what really happened?? Did he rip the muscle off the bone or something? Is it a compound fracture that the med staff didn't notice at first??? I'm thinking 223 is the new 426. I think some of these guys who are on good money should toughen up a bit. Now before everybody jumps down my throat, I ask you this - would the great Jimmy Stynes have been out there playing? We all know the answer.

They need some Nathan Jones blood in them, he goes in harder than anyone and seems invincible. *touch wood*

F--king DAWES!

This is the funniest thing I've seen all day!

Thanks C & B, gave me a chuckle

Pretty keen to see Aiden Riley

You could do worse since Casey dont play this week than play Viney as the sub. Doubt we will do it though.

I swear it has gotten way worse than it used to be - how many dollars are being thrown around in trying to manage these 'elite sportsmen' who seem to be made out of crepe paper, are all these so-called experts in sports science making any difference whatsoever, I would hate to see the state of our list without them, half of demonland would be taking the field. It is the same every single year and I have had enough, honest to God, along with the pathetic rabble that umpiring has become it is turning me away from the sport.

Most accurate post you have ever made

I posted this in another thread. It doesn't make sense that Dawes injury is just a calf- must be linked to his degenerative knee. I wish they would stop telling us porkies.

Misson via the MFC twitter just listed T-Mac and Fitzmagic as 50/50. To ever play again.

That's code for "they won't play".

It agrivates the bejesus out if me.

The irritating thing in all of this is that amid all the talk of ''we don't want to rush them" and "we're being overly conservative" came the admission that Dawes was rushed back too quickly.

I don't expect the docs / fitness guys to get it right 100 per cent of the time, and injuries / recovery can be unpredictable in a sport as intense as AFL, but they obviously got the Dawes call wrong, and may well have done the same with Hogan given that his back was sore prior to the Geelong game, yet still played, and is no closer to resuming despite a spell on the sidelines.

That's code for "they won't play".

It agrivates the bejesus out if me.

So what IS the code for "50/50"?

That's code for "they won't play".

It agrivates the bejesus out if me.

I'm with you... Maybe not on that particular quote but the lack of transparency between the club and it's supporter base is pretty disgusting.

I mean, what the hell is the point of the 'injury update' hosted by Burgen when Misson gives us absolutely nothing. Misson's response, especially when it comes to Dawes' injury is absolutely pathetic. They should either tell us what is really going on, or not give injury updates at all.

Dawes clearly has some ongoing injuries with his 'leg', why do we continue to read 2-3 weeks.. Why is everything kept so quiet.

Shits me to tears and expect more as a paid up MFC member.