On 10/02/2014 at 05:27, Machsy said:

Oh, I see.

Thomas just has Roos' best interests at heart, and is trying to help him...

You can't really believe that, can you?!

can you believe anything else?

I've not known grant to be truly vindictive, so he's either just stating thoughts, or he's sending a hint.

don't let your anger effect your perspective.

  On 10/02/2014 at 04:38, dee-luded said:

Yep its perspective, but I think GT is concerned Roos may cop some fallout fairly soon, if he continues it. I don't think Roosy is thinking about what he said from the negative perspective.

Good he's honest, but not IMO a bighead. just confident in what he's doing. a fineline to tread for the faint of heart.

Yes it is about perspective.

During the tanking saga I was completely pessed-off that Roos' instruction to his forward, during a NAB Cup game, not to kick a goal never received the serious attention it deserved. How much more evidence of not trying to win do you need than a coach telling a player not to kick goals? Now I just take those comments as the joke they were obviously intended as.

  On 10/02/2014 at 06:49, fndee said:

Yes it is about perspective.

During the tanking saga I was completely pessed-off that Roos' instruction to his forward, during a NAB Cup game, not to kick a goal never received the serious attention it deserved. How much more evidence of not trying to win do you need than a coach telling a player not to kick goals? Now I just take those comments as the joke they were obviously intended as.

many games aren't truly tried to be won, when it suits the sides best interests. especially Pre season games.

even a home & away game recently in Perth, I think it was? HiHo

IMO, Grant would love to see the Dees climb up the ladder, especially over the Saints atm for a number of reasons.

Paul Roos is a premiership coach and one of the most respected figures in the game.

He knows how good he is, and he is confident in everything he does.

and the best part?

HE IS OURS

And Grant Thomas knows that we are about to turn the corner, hes a smart guy. Wish he was still on Footy Classified instead of Lloyd.

Roos can say and do whatever the hell he wants if it means making us a competitive force again. For the record though, I haven't noticed a huge amount of smugness. He's never bothered me in the same way as your typical arrogant coaches (Malthouse, B Scott, Lyon etc), in fact I've always quite liked him on a personal level.

  On 10/02/2014 at 06:32, dee-luded said:

can you believe anything else?

I've not known grant to be truly vindictive, so he's either just stating thoughts, or he's sending a hint.

don't let your anger effect your perspective.

Not angry in the slightest.

Just incredulous.

I don't think GT is necessarily vindictive either, but his image of Roos is clearly tainted and I think he does like to be seen as controversial.

He takes pleasure in voicing opinions that others may think then dismiss unspoken.

Usually for a good reason.

  On 10/02/2014 at 07:34, Machsy said:

Not angry in the slightest.

Just incredulous.

I don't think GT is necessarily vindictive either, but his image of Roos is clearly tainted and I think he does like to be seen as controversial.

He takes pleasure in voicing opinions that others may think then dismiss unspoken.

Usually for a good reason.

Quite correct and if he gets it right he comes out looking like a genius, if he gets it wrong no one remembers or cares.

He's a bit like some posters who resurrect their "winning posts" but you never see them bump a thread where they got it wrong.

btw I reckon he had a very good team when he was coach of St Kilda and should have won a flag, if he was a good coach he would have.

  On 10/02/2014 at 07:41, RobbieF said:

He's a bit like some posters who resurrect their "winning posts" but you never see them bump a thread where they got it wrong.

Associating Melbourne supporters with that flogg? Not as many Chinamen in China compared to how many times you slag of posters you don't agree with.

  On 09/02/2014 at 23:59, rjay said:

"Make no mistake he is the right appointment after previous 2 debacles and will be super for their future"

nothing

else

matters

  On 10/02/2014 at 07:34, Machsy said:

Not angry in the slightest.

Just incredulous.

I don't think GT is necessarily vindictive either, but his image of Roos is clearly tainted and I think he does like to be seen as controversial.

He takes pleasure in voicing opinions that others may think then dismiss unspoken.

Usually for a good reason.

Roos words have a higher purpose than self adulation.

He is rebuilding the confidence of a broken club. He is trying to sell hope to members, administration and players.

As a coach his first job is to get the club to believe him. If he can't achieve that then we are roo ted.

  On 10/02/2014 at 08:25, america de cali said:

Associating Melbourne supporters with that flogg? Not as many Chinamen in China compared to how many times you slag of posters you don't agree with.

So it's Chinamen is it; what about the Chinawomen, or don't they count in your World?

There are about a eight posters on here I don't like; you just happen to be one of them, never mind.

Was it Demetriou who ran him out of business for his constant criticism of the AFL or am I mistaken?

honestly...who cares...all part of the schtick !!

  On 10/02/2014 at 10:41, Rolling Stone said:

Was it Demetriou who ran him out of business for his constant criticism of the AFL or am I mistaken?

vlad also criticised Roosey...funny...bloke won a cup...Vlad just pizzes in one

  On 10/02/2014 at 08:47, jabberwocky said:

Roos words have a higher purpose than self adulation.

He is rebuilding the confidence of a broken club. He is trying to sell hope to members, administration and players.

As a coach his first job is to get the club to believe him. If he can't achieve that then we are roo ted.

Exactly how I see it.

Roos is telling it like it is, but also selling the supporters hope, without spin.

Roos is confident of his ability.

Good.

  On 10/02/2014 at 07:34, Machsy said:

Not angry in the slightest.

Just incredulous.

I don't think GT is necessarily vindictive either, but his image of Roos is clearly tainted and I think he does like to be seen as controversial.

He takes pleasure in voicing opinions that others may think then dismiss unspoken.

Usually for a good reason.

so what are you basing his derogatory ? comments of Roos on? where is he being derogatory?

  On 10/02/2014 at 08:48, RobbieF said:

So it's Chinamen is it; what about the Chinawomen, or don't they count in your World?

There are about a eight posters on here I don't like; you just happen to be one of them, never mind.

you have to be a politician or retired poli. a twist of lemon, or is it a spin of rind?

do you own a blue tie?

If the best Thomas has is a slurring, strawman personal attack in an attempt to stay relevant, then good luck to him. He's a pig of a person, and if he wants to roll around in the mud then we should let him and think no more about it.

Love listening to GT as he never seems to tow the party line. I'm sure it's why Vlad hounded him out of football media - too much of a loose cannon and not controllable. He also constantly called city hall on their BS.

His coaching style was almost the polar opposite of Roos - attack, attack, attack.

Great to watch.

In a lot of ways it's a shame he never threw his hat in the ring for another gig once the Saints flicked him - he was clearly great with building belief in youngsters.

A "twitter attack"?!

Now that's sure to excite the keyboard warriors.

But isn't he just making observations/comments by way of a social media platform?

Thomas just calling out Roos high levels of self love, nothing we didn't know about Roos.

I didn't like Roos before he jumped aboard, but I don't think anyone can doubt that he isn't a great coach - he has always been a great coach.

Roos knowledge of the game is second to none, I don't care if he is a complete narc, he gets results. We need results.

Thomas is good value, but unfortunately he has the same problem as a lot of us on here, he doesn't know when to shut up, and it has cost him.

do you own a blue tie?....gee it used to be moccasins or trakky dacks, now it's neckwear, times have changed

  On 10/02/2014 at 00:00, Satyriconhome said:

here's a few bits...seems to not like Paul Roos

They were sooo bad they needed me. It shocked me into coaching them. We r so fortunate 2 have a humble man Roosy take job for $1.5M a yr

I'm a former teammate and coaching adversary so I get your drift. Roosy adores Roosy & generally Roosy comes 1,2 &3.

He is absolute right choice but.....that bloke in the mirror needs to have a word 2 him rather than telling him he's awesome

Roosy beautifully playing media on break. It's an orchestra. Detailing the depths of depravity and sick state Demons were in. Our Saviour

I'd adore me for as well for $1.5m - what's not to like?

Thomas straddles the line between forthright and provocation I think. I like that he has strong opinions and isn't afraid about being blunt about it, but sometimes I'm sure he voices them in a manner designed purely to get a reaction.