New Major Sponsor: Automotive Holdings Group (AHG)

[The Chazz 4,077]

not sure of other clubs status but for the MFC having an ASX 200 company on our letter head should help create more businesz

If LDC's comments are correct, and that roughly 14 or so clubs don't have an ASX200 company as their major sponsor, I think it's a case of WGAF?! Without confirming the comments, it appears as though the big 4 Vic clubs (Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond) don't care so much - probably gives us an indication as to what the ASX200 title means to most clubs.

I think PJ mentioning it in the presser was probably more for our (supporters) benefit. He did make a comment along the lines of knowing that we will have their income for at least the next 3 years, then used that ASX200 line as assurance. More bells and whistles, with the ultimate goal to sell memberships. It'll work, and in no way am I being critical of it, just that the days of me getting excited about receiving MFC showbags is long past.

Someone mentioned yesterday (Sue I think it was) how the AFL website had minimal coverage/articles about our new sponsor signing. Watching the presser makes it pretty obvious that outside of the MFC circles, no one gives one. When PJ opened up for questions, there was a pause, then they spent the best part of 10 minutes talking about captains, how the players have come back, Jesse Hogan and who the senior assistant will be. PJ & PR tried to bring the new sponsor in to most replies, but the journo's couldn't care less and changed back to the original question quite quickly.

[DemonOX 8,721]

If LDC's comments are correct, and that roughly 14 or so clubs don't have an ASX200 company as their major sponsor, I think it's a case of WGAF?! Without confirming the comments, it appears as though the big 4 Vic clubs (Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond) don't care so much - probably gives us an indication as to what the ASX200 title means to most clubs.

I think PJ mentioning it in the presser was probably more for our (supporters) benefit. He did make a comment along the lines of knowing that we will have their income for at least the next 3 years, then used that ASX200 line as assurance. More bells and whistles, with the ultimate goal to sell memberships. It'll work, and in no way am I being critical of it, just that the days of me getting excited about receiving MFC showbags is long past.

Someone mentioned yesterday (Sue I think it was) how the AFL website had minimal coverage/articles about our new sponsor signing. Watching the presser makes it pretty obvious that outside of the MFC circles, no one gives one. When PJ opened up for questions, there was a pause, then they spent the best part of 10 minutes talking about captains, how the players have come back, Jesse Hogan and who the senior assistant will be. PJ & PR tried to bring the new sponsor in to most replies, but the journo's couldn't care less and changed back to the original question quite quickly.

The AFL have said bugger all about our sponsorship but hey there is an article on how we spent $1.45M

Melbourne 'restructure' cost $1.45 million

Nothing like concentrating on the positives!!!!

Let's face it until we starting winning we are sitting ducks.

[Canberra Demon 159]

Let's not forget that our two major sponsors from 2013 haven't "stuck around" under the new management. Sure, Opel weren't finanically in a situation to go again, but I've not heard why Webjet opted out (can't imagine it's financial issues). It's also interesting that Webjet are in fact a publicly listed company - something PJ was very quick to promote about AHG.

I don't disagree about the breath of fresh air, and I'm as excited as anyone about the new regime, but I am also not getting caught up in all the bells and whistles.

I cant remember where i heard it or if i read it on here,

I heard that webjet were interested in jumping on board with the cats. Something about someone senior in webjet being involved/supporting Geeling and the fact the Ford ceasing production in Australia they might be scaling down their sponsorship of the cats. Not 100% where i got this from tho.

[Chook in Perth 2,109]

As a matter of interest, which other clubs have an ASX 200 company as a sponsor. I think Fremantle has (or had in 2013) Woodside. Does Sydney still have QBE?

Hawthorn are sponsored by an ASX 200 company. I can say, as an employee of said company, that's not a wow factor for footy clubs.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Chook in Perth

[rpfc 28,070]

Hawthorn are sponsored by an ASX 200 company. I can say, as an employee of said company, that's not a wow factor for footy clubs.

What about if your club had a sponsor that dissolved after one Facebook scandal, another that has pulled out of the country entirely, and one that has lost nearly half it's value on the ASX in the past four months?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Presntation is always important.

Creates more interest.

Having an ASX 200 Sponsor puts us in a whole different network.

Now it is up to the players hold up their end of the bargain.

Bartlett & PJ have been busy.

That has nothing to do with the quality of the press conference.

[Sir Why You Little 36,725]

That has nothing to do with the quality of the press conference.

depends on what catches your attention CB

[daisycutter 29,427]

asx200 is down .4% again today

just saying.....hope it wasn't related to mfc's announcement

[The Chazz 4,077]

What about if your club had a sponsor that dissolved after one Facebook scandal, another that has pulled out of the country entirely, and one that has lost nearly half it's value on the ASX in the past four months?

It's quite clear RP, that this was a sales push from PJ to potential members, and reassurance to other members.

I'm amazed you don't see that, but you did admit to liking bells and/or whistles.

I also find it interesting that you failed to mention that the AHG shareprice dropped over 30% in Q2 2013.

[Sir Why You Little 36,725]

Hawthorn are sponsored by an ASX 200 company. I can say, as an employee of said company, that's not a wow factor for footy clubs.

But it is if you have been down to the Earth's core for the last 7 years as we have.

We can now plan to stand up against the big clubs going forward...

That does mean something. Winning is even more critical.

Help drive the sponsor, not be a burden.

[jazza 1,323]

asx200 is down .4% again today

just saying.....hope it wasn't related to mfc's announcement

everybody has been worried about our percentage of recent times

hopefully r'oos can make a change

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

asx200 is down .4% again today

just saying.....hope it wasn't related to mfc's announcement

Directly attributable to the overall downturn in the motor vehicle industry.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

I want Samsung as a sponsor.

They have too much of my money and I want a discount on my next purchase!

[The Chazz 4,077]

I want Samsung as a sponsor.

They have too much of my money and I want a discount on my next purchase!

They aren't an ASX200 company Froggy, so we won't want to talk to them.

[rpfc 28,070]

It's quite clear RP, that this was a sales push from PJ to potential members, and reassurance to other members.

I'm amazed you don't see that, but you did admit to liking bells and/or whistles.

I also find it interesting that you failed to mention that the AHG shareprice dropped over 30% in Q2 2013.

http://hfgapps.hubb.com/asxtools/Charts.aspx?asxCode=AHE&compare=comp_index&indicies=0&pma1=0&pma2=0&volumeInd=9&vma=0&TimeFrame=M3

http://hfgapps.hubb.com/asxtools/Charts.aspx?asxCode=WEB&compare=comp_index&indicies=0&pma1=0&pma2=0&volumeInd=9&vma=0&TimeFrame=M3

3 year trends.

Do you want to be on the one going up or the one going down?

And leave the patronisation to those who can pull it off...

[old dee 23,508]

I want Samsung as a sponsor.

They have too much of my money and I want a discount on my next purchase!

They only go with winners!

[DemonFrog 1,347]

They only go with winners!

But we can talk well!

[The Chazz 4,077]

http://hfgapps.hubb.com/asxtools/Charts.aspx?asxCode=AHE&compare=comp_index&indicies=0&pma1=0&pma2=0&volumeInd=9&vma=0&TimeFrame=M3

http://hfgapps.hubb.com/asxtools/Charts.aspx?asxCode=WEB&compare=comp_index&indicies=0&pma1=0&pma2=0&volumeInd=9&vma=0&TimeFrame=M3

3 year trends.

Do you want to be on the one going up or the one going down?

And leave the patronisation to those who can pull it off...

Oh dear. I guess, like stats on a footy field, market trends over "x" amount of time can be used to suit any argument. The fact that the Webjet shareprice hasn't performed as well as a totally unrelated company over the past 3 years is an amateur argument from your side.

You're getting way off the point anyway. You were frothing about getting an ASX200 company on board, I couldn't give a toss about it, it was proved that a majority of other clubs don't give a toss about it, so then, in true RP fashion, you went for anything to prove you know more (hence bringing up about the shareprice performance of AHG and Webjet - something that has nothing to do with the original points being raised). Your posts are really boring when you get off topic.

[rpfc 28,070]

Oh dear. I guess, like stats on a footy field, market trends over "x" amount of time can be used to suit any argument. The fact that the Webjet shareprice hasn't performed as well as a totally unrelated company over the past 3 years is an amateur argument from your side.

You're getting way off the point anyway. You were frothing about getting an ASX200 company on board, I couldn't give a toss about it, it was proved that a majority of other clubs don't give a toss about it, so then, in true RP fashion, you went for anything to prove you know more (hence bringing up about the shareprice performance of AHG and Webjet - something that has nothing to do with the original points being raised). Your posts are really boring when you get off topic.

You admonished me for not providing the numbers for both companies.

I provide the numbers for both companies, go back 3 years for both, and you are having a go at me for providing the numbers.

And how is this frothing:

Jackson mentioned the ASX200 - a group which Webjet is certainly not a member of.

That's one whistle or bell that impressed me...

You must see me as a passionless automaton if that is frothing.

The point is they are on a sounder financial footing than any major sponsor we have had for a while and that is why Jackson mentioned the point of fact that they are in the ASX200. And why I am more comfortable with them than with EnergyWatch, Opel, and Webjet.

According to their respective annual reports - AHG made a net profit after tax 10 times that of Webjet.

How is that not comforting to you?

And how can you sit there and judge our relief so sardonically?

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Jeez I'm glad they are a sponsor of ours it gives us 3 years to show them we are worth the money and if we perform well enough and if they perform well enough we might get a long term sponsor at last.

Hope they never read land, they may terminate immediately.

[rjay 24,677]

Oh dear. I guess, like stats on a footy field, market trends over "x" amount of time can be used to suit any argument. The fact that the Webjet shareprice hasn't performed as well as a totally unrelated company over the past 3 years is an amateur argument from your side.

You're getting way off the point anyway. You were frothing about getting an ASX200 company on board, I couldn't give a toss about it, it was proved that a majority of other clubs don't give a toss about it, so then, in true RP fashion, you went for anything to prove you know more (hence bringing up about the shareprice performance of AHG and Webjet - something that has nothing to do with the original points being raised). Your posts are really boring when you get off topic.

I do. We've had sponsors in the past whose stability to say the least left a lot to be desired, then we had some jump in to pick up cheap publicity as the white knights and now we have a sponsor who is stable and wanting to be with us for at least the next 3 years.

It gives us stability at the start of the pre season, something we haven't had for a while and it matters to our football club, I don't care what other clubs give a toss about. They haven't had our level of poor administration and off field disasters leading to a total on field melt down.

Good work Jackson and Bartlett.

Apart from anything else it means one less forum topic for the next 3 years.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

asx200 is down .4% again today

just saying.....hope it wasn't related to mfc's announcement

Thats good news as gold should have gone up then.

[Sir Why You Little 36,725]

Billy why do you not give a toss?

I don't give a toss what other clubs do.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

They aren't an ASX200 company Froggy, so we won't want to talk to them.

The biggest tech company in the world is not good enough LOL

[The Chazz 4,077]

You admonished me for not providing the numbers for both companies.

I provide the numbers for both companies, go back 3 years for both, and you are having a go at me for providing the numbers.

And how is this frothing:

You must see me as a passionless automaton if that is frothing.

The point is they are on a sounder financial footing than any major sponsor we have had for a while and that is why Jackson mentioned the point of fact that they are in the ASX200. And why I am more comfortable with them than with EnergyWatch, Opel, and Webjet.

According to their respective annual reports - AHG made a net profit after tax 10 times that of Webjet.

How is that not comforting to you?

And how can you sit there and judge our relief so sardonically?

Hey RP, I'm quite sure when Webjet first signed up you didn't rush to check their shareprice. From memory you were right up them, and even signed off your posts for a period of time with their name. You were happy to hold out your hand and accept their money then, even though you had access to 3 year charts, etc.

And I just love how you're an expert in hindsight. At the time we didn't see the Energy Watch debacle, again, we were too busy jizzing thinking about the mount they gave us, and then again when Opel came on board.

An ASX200 company does offer that comfort of knowing they are financially stable (to some degree, obviously that can change). I think that was my point all along about the presser and PJ's words? That said, it doesn't mean they are bullet proof, and given the state of the world economy, anything can change overnight.

For my benefit, given your knowledge of the AHG (AHE) shareprice, can you tell me why back in 2007/2008 their sharprice went from $4.43 to $0.42?