AFL NATIONAL DRAFT - Pick 9

[Young Dee 1,303]

I would say they were good pick ups at 18,19 & 20. Grundy was a steal and Kennedy was also seen as an earlier pick.

I would also say that many thought Tapscott was a steal when we got him (unfortunately hasn't come on) and it had nothing to do with Trengove being his mate that we picked him.

Tapscott a steal - haha what went wrong?

I think Roos needs to come in a give players exact positions/roles so they can focus all their effort toward that role. Tappy, Watts, Jetta, Pedersen are key examples.

Roos needs to just say "look I think your best position would be playing a chappy role - foward flank with stints in the midfield. Now go away and focus on moulding yourself on his game - get your body right, work on your goal kicking, work on your agility etc.).

I think Tappy current body is just not suited for the backline or to be a full time midfielder - lacks pace and agility.

Give him a specific role, tell him what he needs to work on and leave the ball in his court.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Young Dee

[Spin-it-to-Goodwin-it 579]

Bennell and Jetta. Pretty sure they were taken where they were because they were friends. What were they? pk 17& 18? Yikes. WJ, remind me who we missed out on to facilitate this bro-mance lol.

Bennell was 30ish, Jetta 50ish

Edited October 24, 2013 by Roosy's Bruisers

[Go the Biff 3,391]

Bennell and Jetta. Pretty sure they were taken where they were because they were friends. What were they? pk 17& 18? Yikes. WJ, remind me who we missed out on to facilitate this bro-mance lol.

WTF ? This post is all kinds of stupid. Try 35 & 51. And maybe do your own legwork rather than asking others to do it.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Bennell and Jetta. Pretty sure they were taken where they were because they were friends. What were they? pk 17& 18? Yikes. WJ, remind me who we missed out on to facilitate this bro-mance lol.

does this (our recruiting & development & footy think) go to show how innocent we've been off the field as a club in past generations, picking all the nice ones & missing most of the hardened ones. And even sacking plenty of hard rrrssed types along the way who go on to finals.

our off field people have not helped us one bit really, over 20 years something.

our elections have left a lot to be desired, with the way directors have left this club floundering time & again. no wonder we're a laughing stock in AFL, & we have been for a good 10 years.

Edited October 24, 2013 by dee-luded

[beelzebub 23,254]

Bennell and Jetta. Pretty sure they were taken where they were because they were friends. What were they? pk 17& 18? Yikes. WJ, remind me who we missed out on to facilitate this bro-mance lol.

it was pretty light on in the back half of the 08 draft

[rjay 24,688]

Tapscott a steal - haha what went wrong?

I think Roos needs to come in a give players exact positions/roles so they can focus all their effort toward that role. Tappy, Watts, Jetta, Pedersen are key examples.

Roos needs to just say "look I think your best position would be playing a chappy role - foward flank with stints in the midfield. Now go away and focus on moulding yourself on his game - get your body right, work on your goal kicking, work on your agility etc.).

I think Tappy current body is just not suited for the backline or to be a full time midfielder - lacks pace and agility.

Give him a specific role, tell him what he needs to work on and leave the ball in his court.

At the time that's the way it was seen by a lot of people, I doubt him getting drafted was for him to hold Trenners hand.

[Young Dee 1,303]

At the time that's the way it was seen by a lot of people, I doubt him getting drafted was for him to hold Trenners hand.

No - I think your thinking of Blease and Scully.

Oh our drafting strategies are becoming clear now

[dee-luded 2,959]

No - I think your thinking of Blease and Scully.

Oh our drafting strategies are becoming clear now

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_drafts?year=2008&t=N&s=P

may have been strauss & blease he was confusing them with?

[Young Dee 1,303]

I am wondering why we didn't get this guy - him and Watts seem pretty close

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

WTF ? This post is all kinds of stupid. Try 35 & 51. And maybe do your own legwork rather than asking others to do it.

Yes I got their draft position mixed up with Blease and Strauss. Sue me.

[Machsy 2,858]

No - I think your thinking of Blease and Scully.

Oh our drafting strategies are becoming clear now

Nope, rjay is correct.

Many supporters were crowing about getting Tapscott.

Also opposition supporters bemoaning not selecting him.

Personally, I saw a manchild that was hard at the footy and had a good kick.

Couldn't find a lot of the footy, wasn't particularly fast or agile...

Kids can always improve or overcome these limitations, but it's always a big gamble.

[warren dean 193]

At the time that's the way it was seen by a lot of people, I doubt him getting drafted was for him to hold Trenners hand.

19 - RICHMOND - Luke Tapscott

DOB: 28/06/91, Height: 180cm, Weight: 86kg

Recruited from: Orroroo/North Adelaide (SA)

Draft range: 8-24

Meet Luke Tapscott

Richmond won't find many players with better foot skills than Tapscott. The powerfully-built midfielder/forward has been compared to Lion Daniel Rich and is widely acknowledged as the best kick in the draft, capable of thumping the ball more than 60 metres. The Tigers are massive fans of the 2009 All-Australian, but would also consider talls Jake Carlisle and Ben Griffiths, and the pacy Ryan Bastinac. Tapscott has strong hands, ball-winning ability and is fierce at the ball.

The above is from Burgatron's 2009 Phantom draft. We took him at 18. EQ also had him in her top 25 (at 23). He went about where most of the "experts" thought he would.

[Machsy 2,858]

No - I think your thinking of Blease and Scully.

Oh our drafting strategies are becoming clear now

Wait - selecting Blease a year early in the hope we recruit his mate Scully the following year, so Scully has incentive to stay?

Btw, what kind of bloke must Blease be, if Scully is his best mate?

[dee-luded 2,959]

I am wondering why we didn't get this guy - him and Watts seem pretty close

is that vickery out of picture?

[dee-luded 2,959]

19 - RICHMOND - Luke Tapscott

DOB: 28/06/91, Height: 180cm, Weight: 86kg

Recruited from: Orroroo/North Adelaide (SA)

Draft range: 8-24

Meet Luke Tapscott

Richmond won't find many players with better foot skills than Tapscott. The powerfully-built midfielder/forward has been compared to Lion Daniel Rich and is widely acknowledged as the best kick in the draft, capable of thumping the ball more than 60 metres. The Tigers are massive fans of the 2009 All-Australian, but would also consider talls Jake Carlisle and Ben Griffiths, and the pacy Ryan Bastinac. Tapscott has strong hands, ball-winning ability and is fierce at the ball.

The above is from Burgatron's 2009 Phantom draft. We took him at 18. EQ also had him in her top 25 (at 23). He went about where most of the "experts" thought he would.

we've seen flashes of tappy's play, but not much of it.

is this because of tappy,,, or is it more about our culture, that so many over 25+ years have found it hard to 'grow' within???

only a few have got the most from themselves, & I would say that green & bruce, robbo, etc, did not reach they're potentials with us.

[dee-luded 2,959]

from the little bit i watched, I wasn't all that excited with sheed. maybe I need to watch again, as others have salivated. I may have not payed attention.

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I will preface this by saying that I haven't seen much of any junior players this year.

Sheed will need to become an inside clearance player at AFL level to be really good. I'm just not sure he has the quickness or innate ability to make space for himself in close to become a top level clearance mid. At AFL level you don't have the space and time that you get at under 18 level, so you need a few tricks to be effective. These might be in terms of size, ability to feed the ball quickly, agility, ability to buy yourself time with the footy or speed.

I just see an honest footballer who does a lot of good, boring things to a decent level. Many compare him to Priddis, but I don't think he has his tricks. Priddis has very quick hands, which makes him effecting as a stoppage mid, which I didn't see in Sheed. He's very meat and potatoes, but does appear to have a high level of maturity (physically and mentally in his understanding of the game). But I don't think that this production will translate as well at AFL level.

I think it would be spending pick 9 on Brad Sewell. I wouldn't do it.

I just found this post, it reflects what I saw on first glance, re sheed? I'll go back & have another look for the video.

[dazzledavey36 53,389]

I am wondering why we didn't get this guy - him and Watts seem pretty close

Seriously Watts..

[dee-luded 2,959]

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dee-luded, on 24 Oct 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

from the little bit i watched, I wasn't all that excited with sheed. maybe I need to watch again, as others have salivated. I may have not payed attention.

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Axis of Bob, on 22 Oct 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

I will preface this by saying that I haven't seen much of any junior players this year.

Sheed will need to become an inside clearance player at AFL level to be really good. I'm just not sure he has the quickness or innate ability to make space for himself in close to become a top level clearance mid. At AFL level you don't have the space and time that you get at under 18 level, so you need a few tricks to be effective. These might be in terms of size, ability to feed the ball quickly, agility, ability to buy yourself time with the footy or speed.

I just see an honest footballer who does a lot of good, boring things to a decent level. Many compare him to Priddis, but I don't think he has his tricks. Priddis has very quick hands, which makes him effecting as a stoppage mid, which I didn't see in Sheed. He's very meat and potatoes, but does appear to have a high level of maturity (physically and mentally in his understanding of the game). But I don't think that this production will translate as well at AFL level.

I think it would be spending pick 9 on Brad Sewell. I wouldn't do it.

I just found this ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ post, it reflects what I saw on first glance, re sheed? I'll go back & have another look for the video.

I've watched sheed again, Not my cup of 'T'.

a big pass from Moi.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,559]

I would be happy with Billings , watched him two years ago in U/18 champs as an under age player and stood out with his class ,goal kicking, and marking. Just the polish we will need to go with our grunt (jones , Viney, trengrove, tyson .)

we have grunt to compliment? Maybe now with Cross and Vince?? Otherwise Jones was our entire grunt with Viney to come on.

[deanox 9,791]

Are any of these players actually mates of Hogan or just mates he played footy with? Knowing someone reasonably well and for a length of time might help you settle in but doesn't necessarily make them the type of mates you'd make life decisions on.

Edited October 24, 2013 by deanox

[Nasher 33,607]

We took Tapscott because we thought he'd be a good player, I was never under the impression that it was to please Trengove. Those draft blurbs are interesting reading, Tapscott may well be the best kick of the draft, but like Strauss we'd never know because he never has the damn ball.

The only notable case I know of where a club took a player to complete the set was Carlton taking Jeff Garlett in the rookie draft to help settle prized pick Chris Yarran. Little did they know they were actually taking the better player of the two. There was also talk that GWS favoured Victorians Ploughman and O'Rourke over South Australian Toumpas for mateship reasons, but I can't remember whether there was any actual evidence of that or if it was just MFC fans making stuff up to justify the slide.

[Demoneyes 562]

Freeman, KK, Lennon and that's all folks!

[rjay 24,688]

Are any of these players actually mates of Hogan or just mates he played footy with? Knowing someone reasonably well and for a length of time might help you settle in but doesn't necessarily make them the type of mates you'd make life decisions on.

Just like all the SA kids are Jimmy T's best mates.

[whatwhat say what 22,325]

100% true that gws selected players based on being teammates at junior level and friends.

Source: recruiter at another club.

[Machsy 2,858]

I've heard the same.

Still don't think it's a valid drafting strategy.