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Why rush? Means Roos will stay at least year 3. I suspect the article is calling the Swans bluff by signalling that he is leaving in a year and we can wait. By saying there will be no assistant app

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If we do have to wait for Dew an extra 12 months would that then translate as Roos staying on as coach for a third year? Either way I would be happy.

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This is the sort of "A Grade" play our club has been sadly missing for a long time. This is playing the Swans at their own game. We can't lose from this. There is a high likelihood that this will flu

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Maybe Dew could talk to Pedo about the importance of preparing your body to be an elite footballer.

You know...id still pick Dew ( today ) ahead of Pedo !!

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The official site posted the following article on their site today: Dew still in senior assistant coach mix

I think he will be a Demon very soon. The official site does not post articles like this unless it is a done deal. They never post rumours. Expect an announcement soon.

I remember they put the Dustin Martin article on the MFC site.. doesn't mean anything

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I remember they put the Dustin Martin article on the MFC site.. doesn't mean anything

The Dustin Martin article was us announcing the fact that we have contacted Martin's management (http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-09-16/dees-wait-on-martin-management). We were telling our supporters that we were keen if he was keen.

I think the Dew article is telling us is that Dew is the one that we want. I will admit that that does not mean he will necessarily come due to his contract with Sydney but I believe that the Dees are saying that he is definitely the one we want for the position.

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You know...id still pick Dew ( today ) ahead of Pedo !!

I wanted us to recruit Dew as a player just before he retired prematurely.

then a couple of years later argued the toss with a Hawks mate, about his hawks team recruiting Dew... he wouldn't hear it & tried to tell me Clarko was useless... I told him he has rocks in his head.

later that year they won the flag - 2008. Dew a catalyst. as was clarko of course.

needless to say my hawk mate is a bit happier these days about clarko & dew.

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Im not so sure they are so brilliantly run anymore. Time will tell but I think some wheels re wobbling.

this IMO, is why Roos got out.

I wonder if he sees his great work being unwound. his baby being 'interfered with'.

none are so blind, than those who just won't see.

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The official site posted the following article on their site today: Dew still in senior assistant coach mix

I think he will be a Demon very soon. The official site does not post articles like this unless it is a done deal. They never post rumours. Expect an announcement soon.

I don't think you understand how the AFL and clubs' websites work...

This means nothing.

*FYI, Larkin or Burgan would get an email from the journalist that wrote the article, advising them of its existence on the AFL website so they can link it to the club website. Often they will anyway, but it gets lost amongst all the club-specific articles.

At this time of year with precious little content that is club specific, it sticks out like dogs balls, and the club would immediately upload it, since it keeps their "brand" in the minds of its "customers", when the opportunities for that are thin.

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this IMO, is why Roos got out.

I wonder if he sees his great work being unwound. his baby being 'interfered with'.

none are so blind, than those who just won't see.

Maybe not the why of his getting out but possibly oiled the way sts.

He may see us as an opportunity to create ROOS-world ver 2.0 ( improved )

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Maybe not the why of his getting out but possibly oiled the way sts.

He may see us as an opportunity to create ROOS-world ver 2.0 ( improved )

yep, also his kids are growing, Uni, & Sydney has its dangers as well.

Melbourne has its attractions as does the AFL. PR is doing a similar trail to Barass.

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The official site posted the following article on their site today: Dew still in senior assistant coach mix

I think he will be a Demon very soon. The official site does not post articles like this unless it is a done deal. They never post rumours. Expect an announcement soon.

It's not a rumour - all they said was that they where willing to wait for Dew to finish his contract.

I see it 2 ways:

1. they are willing to wait for his contract to end

2. they are trying to force Sydney hand (let him go because they know he wants/is going to leave)

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From the sounds of it, Spud still reckons there is a precedent to allow Dew to come to us if we want him as our senior assistant (Leon Cameron @ GWS).

Sounded like the coaching association a week or so back was stating that because both roles are still assistant roles then the Swans are well in their rights to keep him, but now they seem to have changed their tune and are now saying they acknowledge the senior assistant position is a promotion.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/new-coach-protocols-working-well-says-frawley?utm_medium=RSS

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http://afl.com.au/news/2013-10-03/dew-still-a-chance-for-dees?utm_medium=RSS

Would you be happy to wait for Dew or should we get someone who is available straight away?

This has been my concern from day one of the Roos announcement. The appointment i love. However, the public (and behind scenes) announcement that we are on a mission to appoint a successor from the get go is flawed IMO.

It paints everyone into a corner and on a path that this "must" happen asap. Whereas a better option, i would have thought, was to have Roos at least "achieve" a pass mark on a short term set target. eg., say something like.... "finish somewhere between 9th to 12th by end of year 2". Once this is acheived (with maybe other benchmarks linked to some sort of target like this) you then move on to the successor phase beginning year 3 onwards and a slow withdrawal of Roos as head coach with his replacement taking over once Roos & Co. are happy that all is well. The new man taking over in say year 4 or 5.

IMO it's a massive ask for Roos, Jackson & Co. just to get the club to being a consistently competitive unit, week in and week out within a few years, let alone trying to find and put in place a number of candidate/assistants from day one, start grooming them, then choosing and setting a preferred one on a path to replace Roos ASAP. If Roos were coming into a reasonable AFL club set up/culture i would say no probs. But the MFC has been a galaxy away from anything resembling a 'reasonable' footy club for at least 3 years now. And as we can see already, the window for the best possible option may open up in 6, 12 or 18 months. In addition, if the club shows some significant improvement, the list of potential candidates and their enthusiasm to join us, may well grow from it's present state. With the existing P.J. strategy, it would seem we are almost locked into a 'selection phase' now with whatever might be available in the next few months only. I could be off the mark. P.J. and Roos might be quite flexible on this and might be in no hurry whatsoever. I hope so.

Don't get me wrong, i'm 100% behind the Roos appointment and have already re-joined/increased $ spend on membership, Something i've never done so early pre-season. Hec, I'm so wrapped I've even signed son myself and son up in the Demon Army for the first time. It's just that i believe we can't afford any distractions from the main game in the first few years of his coaching tenure. And that main game, as i'm sure most would agree, is to right what was a seriously listing MFC ship. 100% of everyone's efforts will be needed just to do so. IMHO the successor plan is a good 'medium term' idea, but a premature distraction early on in the Roos tenure.

Get some respect back into the Club first. Worry about the new guy (and who's available/willing/appropriate) sometime after that's been acheived.

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Why not just hire Dew and use our President and leading employment lawyer Bartlett to defend him in Sydney's case against him.

The President wanted the club to be ruthless, here's his chance.

I think you are mixing up ruthlessness with stupidness.

Find the loophole in the system and then act. We must be looking into this "promotion" loop hole.

Is a promotion purely acting position or does it also relate to salary? If we have to make up a new coach role/name to get him then do that (e.g. "Successor candidate")

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http://afl.com.au/news/2013-10-03/dew-still-a-chance-for-dees?utm_medium=RSS

Would you be happy to wait for Dew or should we get someone who is available straight away?

If he's the best man then let's wait. We're not about to challenge. Let's find a decade-long coach once Roos shuffles off.

I read it and thought ``smart Melbourne.'' Not something I've thought much in recent years.

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