The clean out continues! Satterley, Nichol and Greaves all Gawn!

[cooko 124]

We thank Satterley, Nichol and Greaves for their contribution to the club over the past two years.

— Melbourne FC (@melbournefc)

September 17, 2013

Coaches Paul Satterley, Andrew Nichol and Aaron Greaves have not been offered new coaching contracts for 2014 http://t.co/JKe6JT9Cjo

— Melbourne FC (@melbournefc)

September 17, 2013

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Was waiting for this one.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,101]

So, who's left from the Neeld era? Just Rawlings?

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Onwards and upwards

[CBDees 3,167]

Happy for Rawlings to stay as most reports on him seemed positive. The exciting thing is that it allows even more fresh ideas come into the Club [that is if Roos decides to fill the secondary roles of line development coaches].

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Keep going PJ your works not over yet!

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,401]

Good news.

We need to be rid of the 12-13 era

[ignition. 1,478]

Am I complaining, not at all. Radical changes needed to be made and they are occurring. Now I look forward to see who the new appointments will be.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

But didn't these guys all come from "elite" organisations in the past?

[Machsy 2,858]

Define "elite"...

All 3 were highly rated coming out of the TAC Cup ranks, but the AFL is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

I imagine they may have been out of their depth, especially without a lot of experience around them to guide their adjustment to the next level.

[Craig Drinker 179]

I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't employ new assistant line coaches and saved the cash. Do we really need them?

[ignition. 1,478]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:34, Clint Bizkit said:

But didn't these guys all come from "elite" organisations in the past?

In all honesty I find it hard to judge them individually from an outside perspective.

I believe it's more so that Roos wants assistants that will already know or adapt easily to his game plan and style. As he's stated he "doesn't want to be coaching the coaches", and considering they were apart of the massive failure that was Melbourne under the likes of Neeld and Co. certainly doesn't help their situation.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:51, Machiavelli said:

Define "elite"...

All 3 were highly rated coming out of the TAC Cup ranks, but the AFL is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

I imagine they may have been out of their depth, especially without a lot of experience around them to guide their adjustment to the next level.

I'm being facetious, it's what Neeld described when they were all hired.

[beelzebub 23,390]

Roos bringing in his team. No surprise here. Thanks lads and good luck

[nutbean 8,838]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:51, Machiavelli said:

Define "elite"...

All 3 were highly rated coming out of the TAC Cup ranks, but the AFL is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

I imagine they may have been out of their depth, especially without a lot of experience around them to guide their adjustment to the next level.

Correct - you imagine.

Its bad enough that everyone believes they were insight as to the performance of assistant coaches - we are now passing judgement on line coaches ?

[DemonOX 8,837]

WHO ????

[ignition. 1,478]

  On 17/09/2013 at 06:10, nutbean said:

Correct - you imagine.

Its bad enough that everyone believes they were insight as to the performance of assistant coaches - we are now passing judgement on line coaches ?

Here we go again...

Already getting cranky and starting arguments after hearing assistant coaches contracts will not be renewed. Pull your hand off it mate.

[Lampers 563]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:53, FairBump PlayOn said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't employ new assistant line coaches and saved the cash. Do we really need them?

I think this is very likely and not just due to financial reasons.

In the old structure, a player would've got guidance/counsel/direction from Neeld, Craig, their line coach, and a development coach. Unless all of those are aligned, the player is likely to be confused.

Has anyone here tried to report to four people simultaneously who are asking for different, potentially contradictory things?

Potentially too many cooks spoil the broth.

[dees64 104]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Good news.

We need to be rid of the 12-13 era

<Include 08-13....

Great news! Bring on culture & developmnet & never focus on the draft pick number ever again.....Focus on the character of the player & wether they can be developed & fit into the culture & values as this will win you premierships not early draft pick numbers!

[Machsy 2,858]

  On 17/09/2013 at 06:10, nutbean said:

Correct - you imagine.

Its bad enough that everyone believes they were insight as to the performance of assistant coaches - we are now passing judgement on line coaches ?

Hold on, you don't think in retrospect it is a puzzling decision to appoint 3 Line Development Coaches, all 3 without any previous AFL coaching or playing experience?

To be guided by an AFL head coach with no previous AFL head coaching experience, not to mention a Forward Line Coach with no previous coaching experience and a Football Manager with no previous Football Managing experience?

There's a lot of inexperience there, a lot of people finding their way in their jobs, while their superiors are doing the same. Really, only Royal and Rawlings had previous experience in their roles.

Even Viney was in unfamiliar territory, being forced to shift into recruiting.

I'd say it was a cost-saving exercise to an extent, but probably a poor decision by Schwab and/or Neeld.

As has been said before, it's not about having a huge group of coaches; it's about having the right coaches.

[nutbean 8,838]

  On 17/09/2013 at 06:23, ignition. said:

Here we go again...

Already getting cranky and starting arguments after hearing assistant coaches contracts will not be renewed. Pull your hand off it mate.

No.. it has nothing to do with renewal or not renewal....getting cranky by you imagining that line coaches were " out of their depth" when I would dearly love to hear exactly what you base that opinion on ? Interested to hear your feedback on them. What were their strengths and weaknesses ? I am all ears.

No experience to guide them ? I believe that was Neil Craigs role as Director of Sports Performance to mentor the coaches. No experience there ?

I get cranky when guesswork without any thought masquerades as considered opinion.

I would have preferred you went with BB's commentary that Roos was always going to bring in his own team as most new coaches do.

(Jesus, I've turned into Ben Hur)

[dee-luded 2,959]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:53, ignition. said:

In all honesty I find it hard to judge them individually from an outside perspective.

I believe it's more so that Roos wants assistants that will already know or adapt easily to his game plan and style. As he's stated he "doesn't want to be coaching the coaches", and considering they were apart of the massive failure that was Melbourne under the likes of Neeld and Co. certainly doesn't help their situation.

the Coaches need to be onside, & be philosophically in sync with the gamestyle Roos wants to instill. also they need to be in-tune with the teaching methods he wants so he can bring in his new way of Ideas, re Culture.

.... If not, then all these Ideas will struggle to get off the ground.

[Adam The God 30,646]

  On 17/09/2013 at 05:51, Machiavelli said:

Define "elite"...

All 3 were highly rated coming out of the TAC Cup ranks, but the AFL is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

I imagine they may have been out of their depth, especially without a lot of experience around them to guide their adjustment to the next level.

Or Roos simply wants his own people in those positions. It may simply be a result of the restructured football department.

[The Reverend 1,736]

  On 17/09/2013 at 07:03, nutbean said:

No.. it has nothing to do with renewal or not renewal....getting cranky by you imagining that line coaches were " out of their depth" when I would dearly love to hear exactly what you base that opinion on ? Interested to hear your feedback on them. What were their strengths and weaknesses ? I am all ears.

No experience to guide them ? I believe that was Neil Craigs role as Director of Sports Performance to mentor the coaches. No experience there ?

I get cranky when guesswork without any thought masquerades as considered opinion.

I would have preferred you went with BB's commentary that Roos was always going to bring in his own team as most new coaches do.

(Jesus, I've turned into Ben Hur)

Does that mean I have to block you as well?

[DeeSpencer 26,567]

I think it's absolutely true that you just can't judge the work of these guys from outside, so much so that Roos can't even judge them.

In essence he'd have to look at their resumes and interview them again anyway and that's even if he did have roles from them to take over.

I'm don't feel these guys were the problem and I have no idea about their coaching ability but if their replacements are some combination of Adam Simpson, Brett Allison, Ben Matthews and George Stone then it's probably not a bad idea.