Ideal Draft/Trade/Free agency

[mikeydemon 126]

I'm just wondering what people would ideally like to see Melbourne get out of the upcoming trade period/draft/free agency. Hopefully Christmas will come early and it can bring us a midfield and a fighting chance at being competitive on field in 2014.
Somehow I feel we won't be able to lure a top line player through free agency, and unless we get our player development right (Chocco please), we have no hope of turning young talent into top line A grade AFL players. That being said, one can only dream right?
Ideally I'd like to see...
-Receive a priority pick before round 1
-On trade pick 1 to GWS for pick 2 and Taylor Adams
-Trade Jack Watts to Carlton for their round one pick (likely pick 11 if they stay 8th)
-Pick up Daniel Cross as a de-listed Free Agent
-Allow Colin Sylvia to leave wherever he pleases as a Free Agent and receive a compensation pick straight after our round 3 selection (likely 39)
-Draft James Aish with pick 2
-Draft Nathan Freeman with pick 3 (bit of a risk but exactly the player we need)
-Draft Christian Salem or Marcus Bontempelli with pick 11 (depending on availability)
-Draft whichever hard bodied midfielder slides to our pick 22 (hopefully either Trent Dumont, Dom Sheed or Luke Dunstan)
-Draft the best available small crumbing forward with pick 38
-Draft a medium defender with an elite kick to give us assurance coming out of defense

This will bring in Aish, Freeman, Salem/Bontempelli, Dumont/Sheed/Dunstan, Adams, Cross + later draft selections for a loss of Watts, Sylvia and Pick 1. This should give us a really even spread of young midfielders to add on to Jones, Toumpas, Viney and Kent who i feel will come along in leaps and bounds next season, as well as Cross to give us some short term stability. Add Hogan and a crumbing forward and with a fully fit Dawes and Clarke i feel 2014 wont be a complete disaster! Better yet, it could see us moving quickly up the ladder!

Realistically we might have to throw in Jamar to sweeten the GWS deal and perhaps pick 39 to sweeten the Carlton deal. Both I'd be happy to give up in their respective trades.

Ultimately, I just want us to be aggressive over the off season and to not let any quality players go easily.
What would you like to see?

[Little Richard 6,265]

I think you'll find this concept on a few other threads already, just sayin

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

Gunna do it anyway,

Trade Jack Watts to Carlton for pick 11

Trade Pick 1 to Brisbane for Sam Mayes, jack redden and pick 7

Trade sam blease for Levi Greenwood

Trade Mark Jamar to Geelong for pick 34

( convince Taylor Adams to go to PSD with a good long term cash offer )

Free Agents: Daniel Cross

lose: Col Sylvia ( pick 25 as compo )

Delisted Free Agents: Mitch Robinson, Anthony Miles

Draft

3: Matt Scharenberg

7: Matt Crouch

11: Nathan Freeman

21:Luke Dunstan

25:Trent Durmont

34:Dayle Garlett

38: Zac Jones

56: Upgrade Clisby

74: pass

Out: Rodan, Sellar, Davis, tynan, sylvia, watts, jamar, davey, macdonald, magner, couch, stark, nicholson, blease, byrnes, pederson ( don't care about contracts they offer nothing so i'd rather pay them out, or if possible trade them for pick 100

in: Mayes, redden, miles, robinson, adams, cross, scharenberg, crouch, freeman,dunstan,durmont, garlett, jones, clisby, hogan

b: Z.jones J. Frawley C.Garland

hb: scharenberg mcdonald grimes

c: mayes jones viney

hf: trengove dawes adams

f: hogan clark howe

fol: gawn redden robinson

int: cross crouch toumpas

sub freeman

Edited August 30, 2013 by Demonfan26

[hughtinkler 22]

Is it true that Dane Swan may be leaving Collingwood? If so I say we go after him aggressively

[CBDees 3,167]

Rumors getting stronger that we will not be recieving a priority pick so maybe a few posters should think again!

[rjay 25,002]

Rumors getting stronger that we will not be recieving a priority pick so maybe a few posters should think again!

These are not rumours, they are opinions of media people all with allegiances to other clubs and a barrow to push. As Jackson said the other day the commission is there to make decisions in the best interests of the game not the individual clubs. The campaign against us is working overtime but I still think we stand a very good chance of getting a priority pick.

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

These are not rumours, they are opinions of media people all with allegiances to other clubs and a barrow to push. As Jackson said the other day the commission is there to make decisions in the best interests of the game not the individual clubs. The campaign against us is working overtime but I still think we stand a very good chance of getting a priority pick.

Totally agree, other clubs feelings will not come into this for a second, we could be competitive as soon as next year if we get a PP and trade it well.

the fact it goes straight back into the mix i think also really helps our chances

[Demon_JB 1,385]

Andrew demetriou just stated on SEN GWS will be getting Tom Boyd when being questioned by Patrick Smith regarding GWS and their future

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

Andrew demetriou just stated on SEN GWS will be getting Tom Boyd when being questioned by Patrick Smith regarding GWS and their future

Until the independent commission grants us a PP that is the case.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Until the independent commission grants us a PP that is the case.

Independent? Bwahahahah!!!!

[Vandenberger With The Lot 238]

The rumours about Paul Roos were a lock, but rumours about not getting a PP are ludicrous.

[deeflog 679]

Andy Maher this morning said that there is a strong chance Chris Yarran will be at Melbourne next year, from what I can gather he is well connected at the blues

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

Andy Maher this morning said that there is a strong chance Chris Yarran will be at Melbourne next year, from what I can gather he is well connected at the blues

What would we have to trade to make that happen?

[pantaloons 2,019]

Assuming we don't get a priority pick, my ideal trading period begins in the spirit of 'One red paperclip', which centres on Kyle MacDonald, who in twelve months began with a red paperclip and traded up to a two-storey house in fourteen transactions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip

1. Melbourne trades Mark Jamar (a rather large paperclip) to GWS for pick 52.

2. Melbourne replaces Jamar's short term ruck role with Darren Jolly via free agency.

3. Melbourne trades picks 52 and 53 to Essendon, keen for more picks, for pick 43.

4. Melbourne trades picks 43, 89 and Lynden Dunn to the Gold Coast for picks 38 and 74.

5. Melbourne trades picks 35 and 71 to Sydney, backing their development, for pick 30.

6. Melbourne trades picks 30 and 74 to Carlton for picks 28 and 100.

7. Melbourne, with the threat of the PSD, trades picks 28, 38 and 100 GWS for Taylor Adams and picks 70 and trusty old 88.

8. Melbourne trades picks 18 and Cam Pedersen to a ruck-short Hawthorn for picks 16 and 69, agreeing to pay half his salary.

10. Melbourne trades picks 16 and 69 to Geelong for pick 14, still feeling guilty for the Gillies move.

11. Melbourne trades pick 2 to Gold Coast for David Swallow.

12. Melbourne signs free agent Brad Sewell to a two-year deal.

13. Melbourne heads to the draft with picks 14, 70 and 88, selecting the best available midfielder at 14, a state league midfielder at 70, and a gangly 218cm West African ruckman at 88.

The wash up of all of this is that Melbourne adds Swallow, Adams, Sewell, Jolly and three national draft picks in addition to their second pick in the PSD. Off the list go the traded Jamar, Dunn and the albatross contract of Pedersen, as well as the three retirees and the delisted Gillies, Sellar, Magner, Couch and Davis. Fill in the rest of the list gaps with masterful free agent signings depending on whether Jetta, Nicholson and/or Tynan get the chop, and Bob's your uncle.

[rpfc 28,546]

Well, that's quite a plan.

Sewell is contracted until 2015.

And have you been playing some management sims lately, because no way is that happening outside of that sphere.

[olisik 4,060]

Nahas set to be delisted, i think we get in early and offer up a 4th rounder for him.

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

Assuming we don't get a priority pick, my ideal trading period begins in the spirit of 'One red paperclip', which centres on Kyle MacDonald, who in twelve months began with a red paperclip and traded up to a two-storey house in fourteen transactions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip

1. Melbourne trades Mark Jamar (a rather large paperclip) to GWS for pick 52.

2. Melbourne replaces Jamar's short term ruck role with Darren Jolly via free agency.

3. Melbourne trades picks 52 and 53 to Essendon, keen for more picks, for pick 43.

4. Melbourne trades picks 43, 89 and Lynden Dunn to the Gold Coast for picks 38 and 74.

5. Melbourne trades picks 35 and 71 to Sydney, backing their development, for pick 30.

6. Melbourne trades picks 30 and 74 to Carlton for picks 28 and 100.

7. Melbourne, with the threat of the PSD, trades picks 28, 38 and 100 GWS for Taylor Adams and picks 70 and trusty old 88.

8. Melbourne trades picks 18 and Cam Pedersen to a ruck-short Hawthorn for picks 16 and 69, agreeing to pay half his salary.

10. Melbourne trades picks 16 and 69 to Geelong for pick 14, still feeling guilty for the Gillies move.

11. Melbourne trades pick 2 to Gold Coast for David Swallow.

12. Melbourne signs free agent Brad Sewell to a two-year deal.

13. Melbourne heads to the draft with picks 14, 70 and 88, selecting the best available midfielder at 14, a state league midfielder at 70, and a gangly 218cm West African ruckman at 88.

The wash up of all of this is that Melbourne adds Swallow, Adams, Sewell, Jolly and three national draft picks in addition to their second pick in the PSD. Off the list go the traded Jamar, Dunn and the albatross contract of Pedersen, as well as the three retirees and the delisted Gillies, Sellar, Magner, Couch and Davis. Fill in the rest of the list gaps with masterful free agent signings depending on whether Jetta, Nicholson and/or Tynan get the chop, and Bob's your uncle.

Fair bit of trading for the sake of trading there, GWS won't use picks after about 30 imo, need to trim the list as it is so would be looking for a first round pick for Adams as a guess.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Pure fantasy Pants. The only believable part involved the gangly 218cm West African ruckman.

Seriously, I've always been inspired by the paperclip story and a draft week version was brilliant.

Thanks for the laugh. It's been a long day and I needed it.

Even though I know you posted most of this with your tongue firmly planted in cheek I actually agree that Swallow and Adams should be our focus plus another experienced, proven midfielder like Sewell or Cross or Thompson. I think it may just be achievable. I think the paperclip story analogy should be at the epicentre of a job interview for MFC Drating/Trading Boss. I'd give you the job!

[Goodvibes 3,596]

You've actually inspired me Pants. I think all Demonlanders should be encouraged to create their own paperclip draft week scenario. I might have a crack tomorrow when I inevitably become bored at work. Mine might start with pick 101 and Trent Ormond-Allen.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Convincing Daniel Cross to join us simply has to be a no brainer.

[pantaloons 2,019]

People, this took me a lot longer than I care to mention! And yes, while it was certainly tongue in cheek, I've always had a sick fascination with moving up in the draft, or trades involving purely picks. If I had more time I would have moved that pick 14 up to pick 1 for the sake of the exercise but it was just taking too long. I also thought I'd give the old "3 bits of slop equals a dollar" a run with some of the aforementioned trades.

Vibes, I'll give you pick 100 for TOA and 101, but only if Sampson is thrown in.

RPFC, thanks for the Sewell heads up. I won't edit my post, but you can substitute his name for Cross.

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

Pick 2 to GCS for David Swallow

pick 20 and Mark Jamar ( understand he isn't worth alot but he's a mature ruckman and steak knives ) to GWS for Taylor Adams ( use threat of PSD if needed )

Daniel Cross as free agent

2-3 ready to go editions to the midfield as well as natural improvement that will take place under Roos will see it dramatically improve in 2014

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLI4iAKODo

Marcus Bontempelli

Draft him!

[Goodvibes 3,596]

People, this took me a lot longer than I care to mention! And yes, while it was certainly tongue in cheek, I've always had a sick fascination with moving up in the draft, or trades involving purely picks. If I had more time I would have moved that pick 14 up to pick 1 for the sake of the exercise but it was just taking too long. I also thought I'd give the old "3 bits of slop equals a dollar" a run with some of the aforementioned trades.

Vibes, I'll give you pick 100 for TOA and 101, but only if Sampson is thrown in.

RPFC, thanks for the Sewell heads up. I won't edit my post, but you can substitute his name for Cross.

Ha, I started to use Clay Sampson as my example but couldn't resist the double barrelled brilliance of TOA. That's a done deal.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Goodvibes

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Assuming we don't get a priority pick.

And after confirming we're delisting Tom Gillies, Troy Davis, Neville Jetta, Daniel Nicholson, James Magner & Tom Couch.

Pick 2 to West Coast for Scott Selwood & Pick 6 (Maybe swapping of some other later picks)

Pick 6 to GWS for Taylor Adams

Sign Daniel Cross as a free agent

Draft the two best midfielders available at Picks 18 & 34.

Draft the best young key defender at Pick 52.

Rookie Draft a long term ruck preospect and Khan Haretuku from Frankston Dolphins