Thanks LH

You don't mention the player charges is anything happening re ASADA issuing notices?

In summary ASADA issued SCN, players decided not to contest and trying to rush it thru to AFL Tribunal hearing where they think they can plead and win their case. ASADA told their lawyers to back off and the process will take the time it needs to take altho some journos are saying the hearing will be heard in Dec. If players lose they think they will be able to serve penance in off-season/early games.

Also, Workcover is about to start investigating EFC. 'Dees2014' thinks their will be some real nasties here for EFC Board...they may even need to borrow some of those Port 'jailbird' jumpers!!

Last but by no means least Bomber has lost the plot, left the coaches association, refused to pay his AFL fine and virtually disqualified himself from coaching in the AFL again. EFC having gone very cold on him. He may need to retire to a hermits life with all his millions. But I actually like Bomber and he has been the only semi-good guy in this sorry saga...

So LH there is no end in sight this year!

There is no end in sight.

Hird can still appeal a loss at the full bench which will take at a minimum 6 months. If he wins well all bets are off.

Workcover will likely get involved and if the Bombers decide to fight any sanctions then they could be in court for years.

If Hird gets the boot he can take further legal action against the club.

If the players get rubbed out for 6 - 24 months they can also take legal action to appeal the decision and or take action against the club.

Years of fun for all in offing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULheM4MEb7I

Selfie?

Good news Jobe! We've got you a start in the Oakes!.

Go Injecty Go?

Selfie?

Found this video when I could not sleep last night.

Although it focuses on steroids it does explain what the holy grail is in substance taking is all about.

Oh to answer your question No. But the picture is very off putting.

Found this video when I could not sleep last night.

Although it focuses on steroids it does explain what the holy grail is in substance taking is all about.

Oh to answer your question No. But the picture is very off putting.

I was kidding bout the selfie . . It is so obviously Jobe!

PS Will watch the doco. Chrs

This only gets funnier

Is that "stand by, Hird, the train is coming"?

I am waiting for more info from '14....

Natalie Hickey's analysis of the cases put by Hird and ASADA in the Federal Court appeal ~ As James Hird v ASADA Appeal looms, parties’ hands are disclosed.

What a champion Hird is

There is no end in sight.

Hird can still appeal a loss at the full bench which will take at a minimum 6 months. If he wins well all bets are off.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the Full Bench? Is that the same as the Supreme Court? Is the next step after that an appeal to the High Court?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the Full Bench? Is that the same as the Supreme Court? Is the next step after that an appeal to the High Court?

As the name suggests, the Federal Court is a court of federal or national jurisdiction. It is separate from the Supreme Court (of Victoria) which is a state court.

The Full Bench means a court constituted of usually three or more judges. This appeal is against a judgment made by a single judge sitting alone in the Federal Court (in this case Middleton J) and is being heard by a panel of three Federal Court judges (the word "full" does not refer to their state of sobriety )

If one of the parties is aggrieved by the decision in this appeal, they might get leave to appeal to the High Court.

I don't think that will happen based on my reading of the arguments but some funny things do happen from time to time in our legal system.

Thanks WJ for that explanation. As I understand it, the verdict on Monday's hearing is likely to be given some time in December.

I have some understanding of where ASADA will head if they lose from reading an article in today's Age.

I take it that, if Hird loses, it will likely be the last we hear from him, at least until the law suits are filed!

Thanks for that WJ.

In your opinion, does hird have a leg to stand on?

Also id bet that if hird loses itll end up in the high court, and it wont be about the vibe or mabo.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the Full Bench? Is that the same as the Supreme Court? Is the next step after that an appeal to the High Court?

i think it's a normal bench after a looong lunch

i think it's a normal bench after a looong lunch

In this case its three judges on the bench plus the sub.

Thanks for that WJ.

In your opinion, does hird have a leg to stand on?

Also id bet that if hird loses itll end up in the high court, and it wont be about the vibe or mabo.

Based on the submissions filed in the Federal Court I think he's legless.

I wouldn't be booking any flights to Canberra for any High Court hearings next year in the hope of catching any cases involving high profile AFL coaches challenging ASADA either.

Based on the submissions filed in the Federal Court I think he's legless.

I wouldn't be booking any flights to Canberra for any High Court hearings next year in the hope of catching any cases involving high profile AFL coaches challenging ASADA either.

So is that a full HIrd appealing to a full bench?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the Full Bench? Is that the same as the Supreme Court? Is the next step after that an appeal to the High Court?

It is a group of judges after a long lunch

What a champion Hird is

he is so brave

he is shocked to be sitting here

when the truth comes out he will be in a good place

Natalie Hickey's analysis of the cases put by Hird and ASADA in the Federal Court appeal ~ As James Hird v ASADA Appeal looms, parties’ hands are disclosed.

Whatever it takes....?

The Appellant concludes its response by suggesting that ASADA’s argument that unlawfully obtained evidence should nonetheless be admissible, is essentially that “the end justifies the means” and that this cannot be right.

Whatever it takes....?

The Appellant concludes its response by suggesting that ASADA’s argument that unlawfully obtained evidence should nonetheless be admissible, is essentially that “the end justifies the means” and that this cannot be right.

I get it :

Irony !!!

Good pickup

P.S.

The Social Litigator piece seems to only present each party's case but this time there is no evaluation of the merits; that would be interesting

he is so brave

he is shocked to be sitting here

when the truth comes out he will be in a good place

He has been deluded since day 1

he is so brave

he is shocked to be sitting here

when the truth comes out he will be in a good place

Carl Williams thought that Barwon Prison was "a good place"......for a while.