Considering the glacial speed that ASADA operates at ( Dank has only now been asked to appear on Cronulla matters ) I think the 2014 season will be over before they issue any infraction notices if at all.

Lets suppose the do actually issue notices any club that misses the finals as the result of Essendon making it can feel justifiably annoyed.

Notice how Hird is using everybody else to fight his dirty war??

The problem when there is a vacuum is that it wants to be filled. After the Fed Govt and ASADA igniting the flames they have gone silent.In the absense of any formal comment, the Hird machine has churned out story after story trying to shape the war against the Bummers.

Its more than annoying for all of us but once the stuff hits the fan - which I am certainly hope it will - then Hird's little war will simply be a footnote of history....

Notice how Hird is using everybody else to fight his dirty war??

The problem when there is a vacuum is that it wants to be filled. After the Fed Govt and ASADA igniting the flames they have gone silent.In the absense of any formal comment, the Hird machine has churned out story after story trying to shape the war against the Bummers.

Its more than annoying for all of us but once the stuff hits the fan - which I am certainly hope it will - then Hird's little war will simply be a footnote of history....

You have a confidence that I am struggling to share jnr.

You have a confidence that I am struggling to share jnr.

It's not certain at this point the ASADA will issue infraction notices to Essendon players.

And if they don't do this, I would not be surprised if the Hird camp see it as a victory of his innocence.

It's all part of the delusion surrounding the group. The fact that they cannot say what each player is injected with won't be important to them.

It's not certain at this point the ASADA will issue infraction notices to Essendon players.

And if they don't do this, I would not be surprised if the Hird camp see it as a victory of his innocence.

It's all part of the delusion surrounding the group. The fact that they cannot say what each player is injected with won't be important to them.

Yep agree RR.

It's not certain at this point the ASADA will issue infraction notices to Essendon players.

And if they don't do this, I would not be surprised if the Hird camp see it as a victory of his innocence.

It's all part of the delusion surrounding the group. The fact that they cannot say what each player is injected with won't be important to them.

Sadly in time it may be so to the players.

Considering the glacial speed that ASADA operates at ( Dank has only now been asked to appear on Cronulla matters ) I think the 2014 season will be over before they issue any infraction notices if at all.

Lets suppose the do actually issue notices any club that misses the finals as the result of Essendon making it can feel justifiably annoyed.

Has anyone actually seen the request that was issued by ASADA asking Dank to appear?

Masters wrote about a request supposedly sent to Dank in which it said he could assist in clearing up the issues at Cronulla. That is entirely different to being "asked to appear on Cronulla matters" - it could mean that the request was issued out of Sydney by ASADA and they won't limit their questioning to any one subject. It could also mean that they will talk to him about whatever the legislation allows them to and that irrespective of what he says about Essendon, they've already made up their minds on that matter.

I personally think infraction notices will issue once the judge has given ASADA the necessary advice on how to proceed the case. Australian sport has to much at stake allow the ball to be dropped on this or to whitewash the whole thing. It won't go away.

Moreover, if the request was an official one then Dank would already be incurring $5k per day if he hasn't fronted ASADA.

_{Thought an interesting point in one of the articles recently was the club setting up a fund to deal with possible action from any players who suffer any health issues.}

Clarko takes aim and makes sure he keeps his nose clean by sympathising with Vlad in this Caroline Wilson article Game was 'ambushed'

Clarko is absolutely spot on. he gets it.

Clarko takes aim and makes sure he keeps his nose clean by sympathising with Vlad in this Caroline Wilson article Game was 'ambushed'

Good to see someone in his position saying that.

Good to see someone in his position saying that.

About time too....

I do wonder what Hanke will tweet about it, slamming Clark, Brand Hird dad as well...

About time too....

I do wonder what Hanke will tweet about it, slamming Clark, Brand Hird dad as well...

I seriously doubt Clarkson will lose any sleep over their replies.

I seriously doubt Clarkson will lose any sleep over their replies.

I didn't siuggest he would, in fact I think he would cut out the articles, lay them on his bed and roll around in them with joy. I am just interested to see Brand Hird fire up the publicity machine and start throwing the hand grenades.

Clarko is absolutely spot on. he gets it.

Clarko gets a bit of flak for his temper, but he makes a helluva lot of sense in this article.

I look forward to the fallout from many who won't want to hear it!

About time too....

I do wonder what Hanke will tweet about it, slamming Clark, Brand Hird dad as well...

After his last outburst I would suggest Hanke's currency in all this is pretty low.

I am sure Little would have discussed with the golden boy that moving forward involves jettisoning loose cannons like Hanke's.

Clarko is absolutely spot on. he gets it.

Good to see someone in his position saying that.

About time too....

I do wonder what Hanke will tweet about it, slamming Clark, Brand Hird dad as well...

all very interesting.

but why didnt he make these comments last year?

i was very disappointed that the AFL family all stood deathly quiet and hid under the bedcovers during the early phase of this drama.

if somebody came out last year and threw petrol on the fire ,we may have got a different result to what we now have.

after all this drama,it would have been over much earlier and with less pain to the AFL and essendon,if somebody stood up.

players,coaching staff,administrators,afl,other clubs,anybody.

Clarko gets a bit of flak for his temper, but he makes a helluva lot of sense in this article.

I look forward to the fallout from many who won't want to hear it!

Clarkson was only saying what the rest of the non EFC world have believed and been saying.

His statements are spot on.

I am not sure who will deliver the "fallout".

As many have argued on here for a while the whole saga is a disgrace to the game.

Clarko takes aim and makes sure he keeps his nose clean by sympathising with Vlad in this Caroline Wilson article Game was 'ambushed'

So, Caro is still alive (in her own little way): I will be waiting to see "Tankers Torment Tigrs"

After his last outburst I would suggest Hanke's currency in all this is pretty low.

I am sure Little would have discussed with the golden boy that moving forward involves jettisoning loose cannons like Hanke's.

I would have thought his currency was at it's lowest after the James is "heroic" line.

If the Hanke comes out all guns blazing that conversation with Little has not happened or fell on Brand Hirds ears Rhino?

Well said Clarko. About time people stopped tip toeing around the Golden Boy.

Get the good stuff is what Hird said.

Well I wouldn't think Hanke could be so stupid to pull a ridiculous PR stunt like that.

1. How would Hanke possibly in a position to undermine Little about a conversation that he was a party?

2. Why would Hird use a witless attack dog like Hanke against the Club that has gone for broke to back him and pay him a $1m a year? Especially when Little has said they're in regular contact and Little seems to be mentoring the poor golden boy.

3. Given point 2 what benefit is there for Hanke or his client to attack Little in the Press?

Hanke has not worked out that the world has moved on and his recent media performance has highlighted how out of the picture he is

Now I'm just worried that with Kennett and Franklin gone and Clarkson making measured, sensible contributions to football politics, I might end up liking Hawthorn. In the past, there has always been a good reason to find them at the very least irritating.

Now I'm just worried that with Kennett and Franklin gone and Clarkson making measured, sensible contributions to football politics, I might end up liking Hawthorn. In the past, there has always been a good reason to find them at the very least irritating.

You'll get over that when we start beating them.

all very interesting.

but why didnt he make these comments last year?

i was very disappointed that the AFL family all stood deathly quiet and hid under the bedcovers during the early phase of this drama.

if somebody came out last year and threw petrol on the fire ,we may have got a different result to what we now have.

after all this drama,it would have been over much earlier and with less pain to the AFL and essendon,if somebody stood up.

players,coaching staff,administrators,afl,other clubs,anybody.

I think one of the points of the article was that Clarko had been to Harvard Business School in the break. I imagine there when they talk of leadership etc he thought of this issue. Now he is back he feels he needed to speak out about it.

Its a cosy place the AFL. No-one likes to rock the boat. But Clarko is now seeing a bigger picture courtesy of his education. The fact he is now a 2 time premiership player probably also helps. He is unlikely to be pilloried. Imagine if he lost last years GF - he might be under more pressure for making those statements,

It also doesn't hurt that he s supporting Dimwit.

Just sayin...