Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 He'd be an inspired appointment, but I still don't reckon he wants it. For a start, I don't even think he wishes to relocate from Sydney to Melbourne. Apparently he loves living in Sydney. But, if not, I'd be extremely happy with Choco Williams as our head coach, particularly if Junior McDonald returns to the club as part of the package. The next coach obviously needs immediate 'player buy in' - and I reckon Roos or Choco/Junior would get that.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Do we dare dream.....the impossible Dream ???
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I'm gun shy of getting my hopes up, also I do have a thoughts that if Neelds hard line approach didn't work how will Roo's, Clarkso, Eade or Choc Willams meant to? This is an interesting point. Why is it only our players that don't respond? Doesn't seem to be a problem at other clubs. Still plenty of work to do to get rid of the softcockery and bad cultural elements.
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I'd like to see Wellman return as the backline coach too. Not that that will happen obviously ...
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 This is an interesting point. Why is it only our players that don't respond? Doesn't seem to be a problem at other clubs. Still plenty of work to do to get rid of the softcockery and bad cultural elements. This man wins the Kewpie Doll. This has been niggling me also.. What is it about our precious lot that they seem impervious to development and direction. Must be the coffee from the cafe or something as its got me confounded.
Rhino Richards 1,467 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Not long ago the "experts" and the "naysayers" were also saying that nobody would want to take the CEO's job and suddenly Peter Jackson emerged with enthusiasm about "taking on the challenge". The same will happen with the coach's job for precisely the same reason. It will be well paid and a challenge that those who are brave enough will dare to take on. You can relax Jack. Peter Jackson is an AFL appointment who is at MFC for up to 18 months. It yet to be seen what full time CEO will be available at that time. When Schwab was sacked there were and are a number of substantial detractions to the MFC role. And you would expect that the position would be a far better outlook in 18 months that the crud role Jackson has had to endure where he has had to: 1. Watch the Board implode and the President rightly fall on his sword. 2. Totally revamp a dysfunctional FD including the appointment of a new FD director and dismissal of senior FD personnel. 3. Sack the Coach and re appoint a new Coach. 4. Go cap in hand to the AFL because the Club is $3m under water and can't afford to unwind a number of the appalling decisions made by this Board. 5. Following the termination of the coach address the risk of key players moving to greener pastures. And these are just the major short term challenges to go with the possible drop off in members and sponsors dollars The above reasons were why the CEO at MFC was seen as.poisoned chalice by some. Maybe you couldn't see that.
DemonWA 3,941 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Roos would be to Melbourne what Ross Lyon is to Fremantle. he'd lift us from the bottom to a mid table team IMO, just like Lyon was able to make fremantle lift a gear and become contenders
timD 994 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Not long ago the "experts" and the "naysayers" were also saying that nobody would want to take the CEO's job and suddenly Peter Jackson emerged with enthusiasm about "taking on the challenge". The same will happen with the coach's job for precisely the same reason. It will be well paid and a challenge that those who are brave enough will dare to take on. Cute. Name one "expert" who said that nobody would want to take the CEO's job? Then tell me if the AFL's backing, removal of members of the board, the admin and the lure of the priority pick might have changed the landscape. I think it is cute to suggest that somehow people of character were always going to carry the day when in truth the AFL has stepped in to run this club. It's got nothing to do with character, Jack. The features of the club that made it unattractive are being altered by the AFL. Not by the club. Not by us. Those "brave enough" are getting backing. So it isn't bravery, really, is it? And you know all of this. I'm baffled as to why you are writing this stuff. No-one believes it.
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 FMD. Roos has stated categorically that he is not interested in coaching repeatedly. I guess the more he is asked this the more it stirs the simple minded that he must be interested. And the wing nuts that claim "every man has his price" seem to forget that we are going cap in hand to the AFL for money. We can't pay stupid sums for a coach and money alone does not guarantee an outcome. FMD can you read
alias275 259 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I think the fact now that PJ is in place, DM stepped down and more board members to follow, are main reasons why these coaches are now considering it. The AFL have stepped in, so they know they'll have their support as well.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 We'll present to any aspirant considering as quite the different beast for sure. PJ has been adamant you get the backrooms sorted and the front game reacts as result. Well cant say thats not happening. There is change by the truck load. When the dust settles from this major reno we'll either have a magnificent palace or a delipidated pig pen. im siding with the former. The basket-case is disappearing and a bucket ( albeit with holes ftm ) has taken its place. Plugs those holes and we might just carry water. Only a fool would have even hinted at interest until this transformation took place. And we dont want fools in charge. Be nice when we make headlines for on field success as opposed off field turmoil. It must come .....one day....surely.
tonatopia 278 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Malcolm Blight anyone? We have to be sure he is in this 100 per cent. Fortunately, Roos says as much himself in those quotes. Exactly right, a coach that isn't 110% would be worse than neeld. I just hope our "braintrust" realize this.
frankie_d 1,471 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Wowee what a complete turn around! This is our chance make it happen melbourne! Thought you were referring to C&B's new avatar!!!
Curry & Beer 5,444 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Thought you were referring to C&B's new avatar!!! Olivia Munn + Paul Roos gives me a tingly feeling :D
H_T 3,049 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 This man wins the Kewpie Doll. This has been niggling me also.. What is it about our precious lot that they seem impervious to development and direction. Must be the coffee from the cafe or something as its got me confounded. Maybe that's it. The development and direction. But give us a decent midfield and we'd make up significant ground.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Maybe that's it. The development and direction. But give us a decent midfield and we'd make up significant ground.better get a decent coffee maker too just to cover all bases
Damo 3,464 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Cute. Name one "expert" who said that nobody would want to take the CEO's job? Then tell me if the AFL's backing, removal of members of the board, the admin and the lure of the priority pick might have changed the landscape. I think it is cute to suggest that somehow people of character were always going to carry the day when in truth the AFL has stepped in to run this club. It's got nothing to do with character, Jack. The features of the club that made it unattractive are being altered by the AFL. Not by the club. Not by us. Those "brave enough" are getting backing. So it isn't bravery, really, is it? And you know all of this. I'm baffled as to why you are writing this stuff. No-one believes it. Ive got no idea why you are so antagonistic against WJ. It seems you are watching his posts to knock them down. Its a bit baffling.
Hannibal 5,814 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Classic Demonland. Now posters will argue for 3 months over other posters opinions as to who should coach us. I'm the first to say I have no frigging idea. If Roos wants to do it for the right reasons then I can't be disappointed with someone who has the capacity to change the culture and unite the club.
H_T 3,049 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 FMD. Roos has stated categorically that he is not interested in coaching repeatedly. I guess the more he is asked this the more it stirs the simple minded that he must be interested. And the wing nuts that claim "every man has his price" seem to forget that we are going cap in hand to the AFL for money. We can't pay stupid sums for a coach and money alone does not guarantee an outcome. Paul Roos: "Look, I will take the call" "My mindset is, it would want to be a significant change..to where I am at the moment" In other words, whilst he's said he's not interested and happy in the media. Money still talks. The AFL recognise the club has a cultural problem, that players and player managers are expressing interest in other clubs. The AFL recognise the club has gone cap in hand with PJ expressing the details of the situation. Drastic measures = drastic action. The AFL has a history of going for the right man to get the job done. I wouldn't rule Roos out, as you have.
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Channel seven report we are targeting roos big time.
Red N Blue Society 165 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 'left the door ajar' sounds a lot better than that for mine, sounds like he is saying yep I'll take it on just make sure there is plenty of $$$$$$$ "In some ways it's the great coaching challenge" That's it Roosy, that's the angle this is brilliant, for once we might get somebody bona fide with serious runs on the board around the place Agree here! We are the great coaching challenge..but we are also not as bad as we look... We are the worst side in the comp at playing the game atm....but our list says the opposite....It is a very good list talent wise I believe! And other clubs/supporters know this! A "great coach" now has the chance to take some bona fide talent and bring the DEMON back!!!! We know the list is ok,not brilliant but its pretty stacked with talented young blokes who need to move away from the "Oh but we are a young side tag" To the next coach.....Please remove this BS stigma!!!! Players are players! And please FFS....get Jack Watts in the gym & give him angry pills daily till he gets it and get a few others in the Gym!!!!!! We need some MEN on the field!!! And if we have to do it replace Mitch Clarks foot with that of cyberdyne model t2 while we are at it! This guy.....is the key to a flag!!!
Rhino Richards 1,467 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Paul Roos: "Look, I will take the call""My mindset is, it would want to be a significant change..to where I am at the moment"In other words, whilst he's said he's not interested and happy in the media. Money still talks. The AFL recognise the club has a cultural problem, that players and player managers are expressing interest in other clubs. The AFL recognise the club has gone cap in hand with PJ expressing the details of the situation. Drastic measures = drastic action. The AFL has a history of going for the right man to get the job done.I wouldn't rule Roos out, as you have. I wouldn't rest my laurels on the Hun.
Gorgoroth 13,216 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If we are to succeed in getting Roos to the club we will need to be able to afford to put in the FD that he would want. I reckon if we can give him the FD he wants it may be the deal breaker. I think he would be more worried about those things than the exact amount he was paid.
jumbo returns 6,744 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Whoever it is, must be given time. The Club needs to become combative in the AFL, not just participants. (quoting Neeld here) Good luck, newbie.
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If the AFL are going to hand over $3 milion to clear the decks i am sure a stipulation will be to get the best coach. It is the best way to recoup the "loan" Good governance i would call it
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