Hardly a scapegoat but part of the problem.

A perfect case of loose lips .........

A failure in the FD and was moved out by Schwab/McLardy.

It will be up to the new CEO/Jackson to determine past his suspension whether he stays in a non FD.

Definitely not a must keep in my books.

Schwab and McLardy moved him out of the FB?

Lock this thread up!

Let me state my position again before I post, CC is a mate of mine. That said let me state the following:

Chris bore the brunt of the tanking punishment and we all know he is not the only one who had to be involved. He did so without recrimination. He has lost a year's salary as a result. He has a family to support.

He has been removed from the football side.

He is now in the marketing/membership/fundraising side. He is good at his role. He also does a lot of the community work and he is good at that as well. He is great with people and getting them involved with the MFC.

He is a former player who cares a lot about this club. He wants to see this club successful again and has suffered like few others as a result of the last few years.

I would be more likely to donate again if asked by Chris, someone who knows me and how I feel about the MFC, than some new kid I have never met before and who will leave as soon as he is offered a new job.

You want to build culture, you don't burn the CC's of this world. You use them to the best of their ability as part of the rebuild of this fractured club.

I agree, CC is a typical sales / PR type of person, and I feel he is now in an area that suits him.

So I guess the first thing Jackson has done is a failure of leadership...

How many more of these decisions before Jackson is not a 'must keep?'

Another mindless point score. You are raking them up.

I did say I would leave it to Jackson to determine. He is closer to the action.

Edited May 31, 201312 yr by Rhino Richards

Another mindless point score. You are raking them up.

I did say I would leave it to Jackson to determine. He is closer to the action.

I think you see anyone having a conversation with you as attempting to 'Score Points in the Game of Life.'

'Nice weather lately, RR?'

[RR shakes head] 'Shameless point scoring. Good day, sir'

I think you see anyone having a conversation with you as attempting to 'Score Points in the Game of Life.'

'Nice weather lately, RR?'

[RR shakes head] 'Shameless point scoring. Good day, sir'

No just you and your trivial banality.

Give it a rest Rhino please.

Quickly ssignng before the admin overhaul...

Personally i am suprised at this 2 year deal. I would have preferred the Hollywood Boulevard gone completely.

That said i know how good CC has been at FH Dinners and other fund raising.

And by god we are going to need that in the next 3 years so i reckon CC will be busy.

Redemption is allowed in Australia. So go for it CC ring me next year and make me donate!!

Let me state my position again before I post, CC is a mate of mine. That said let me state the following:

Chris bore the brunt of the tanking punishment and we all know he is not the only one who had to be involved. He did so without recrimination. He has lost a year's salary as a result. He has a family to support.

He has been removed from the football side.

He is now in the marketing/membership/fundraising side. He is good at his role. He also does a lot of the community work and he is good at that as well. He is great with people and getting them involved with the MFC.

He is a former player who cares a lot about this club. He wants to see this club successful again and has suffered like few others as a result of the last few years.

I would be more likely to donate again if asked by Chris, someone who knows me and how I feel about the MFC, than some new kid I have never met before and who will leave as soon as he is offered a new job.

You want to build culture, you don't burn the CC's of this world. You use them to the best of their ability as part of the rebuild of this fractured club.

Great Post Redleg. If hes willing to put the club first, then hes a keeper. We need more of this.

Edited May 31, 201312 yr by Wadda We Sing

With a bit of luck, we can sign up Don McLardy now.

Get Cam Schwab back

SIGN UP NEELD ASAP.

We are back now, this is AWESOME!

He was also the source of the only evidence the AFL had in the investigation.

Are you trying to be funny?

If not, you deserve to cop all the flack you get.

I hope he isn't on good coin to be honest. Happy for him to be at the club, but hope the new deal doesn't overcompensate him for a years loss of earnings.

It's all these extra costs i get concerned about. Was Schwab paid out handsomely ?

By the way, did we ever resolve why Schwab got that personal loan using the clubs funds a few years ago ?

From what I read when the AFL handed down the result. McLardy said he was suspended and still on the payroll. So he hasn't lost any earnings.

I stand to be corrected.

From what I read when the AFL handed down the result. McLardy said he was suspended and still on the payroll. So he hasn't lost any earnings.

I stand to be corrected.

He is not receiving any salary from the club this year.

I don't have a problem with this at all. He took a massive hit for the club, and it is doing the right thing and looking after him in turn. He's not going to be involved in the FD, so no concerns with any influence on the team. It's a good outcome.

From the few times ive had a chat with Chris, i found him to be a quality Melbourne person. Happy with the new deal

He is universally very highly regarded, inside and outside the club. David Parkin was ropable when CC was scapegoated by the AFL, but entirely unsurprised when he decided to cop it for the club. I'd be surprised if anybody 'within' football ( not the media) had a bad word say about him.

What's the problem?

Cuddles is working in a fundraising role when he comes back - a job he is pretty damn good at.

Why not?

What's the problem?

Cuddles is working in a fundraising role when he comes back - a job he is pretty damn good at.

Why not?

If we had've tanked, we could blame our poor performance on the dismal culture that tanking left behind.

But, luckily we didn't tank I guess and our culture is great, Neeld is god and welcome back Cuddles.

I just don't know how they are going to get Cam Schwab back in the fold?

Let me state my position again before I post, CC is a mate of mine. That said let me state the following:

Chris bore the brunt of the tanking punishment and we all know he is not the only one who had to be involved. He did so without recrimination. He has lost a year's salary as a result. He has a family to support.

He has been removed from the football side.

He is now in the marketing/membership/fundraising side. He is good at his role. He also does a lot of the community work and he is good at that as well. He is great with people and getting them involved with the MFC.

He is a former player who cares a lot about this club. He wants to see this club successful again and has suffered like few others as a result of the last few years.

I would be more likely to donate again if asked by Chris, someone who knows me and how I feel about the MFC, than some new kid I have never met before and who will leave as soon as he is offered a new job.

You want to build culture, you don't burn the CC's of this world. You use them to the best of their ability as part of the rebuild of this fractured club.

Well said, Redleg

I only read Redleg's post and angrydee's response and I couldn't agree more. I feel sorry for anyone who wants to give CC the flick. Genuine Club people are hard to come by. It is widely acknowledged now that CC was the fall guy (why wasn't it acknowledged at the time?). We need as many CC's as we can get.

Are you trying to be funny?

If not, you deserve to cop all the flack you get.

Gillon McLachlan's words. I can't find the quote but I remember him saying it in an interview or press conference.

IIRC, four people gave the evidence, all former employees who were disgruntled and had been sacked by the club. CC wasn't one of them.

IIRC, four people gave the evidence, all former employees who were disgruntled and had been sacked by the club. CC wasn't one of them.

Let me clarify, what Connolly said in the meetings in the "vault" were the only evidence the AFL had to charge Melbourne with. If Connolly never said those words no charges would have been laid (as flimsy as they were).

Let me state my position again before I post, CC is a mate of mine. That said let me state the following:

Chris bore the brunt of the tanking punishment and we all know he is not the only one who had to be involved. He did so without recrimination. He has lost a year's salary as a result. He has a family to support.

He has been removed from the football side.

He is now in the marketing/membership/fundraising side. He is good at his role. He also does a lot of the community work and he is good at that as well. He is great with people and getting them involved with the MFC.

He is a former player who cares a lot about this club. He wants to see this club successful again and has suffered like few others as a result of the last few years.

I would be more likely to donate again if asked by Chris, someone who knows me and how I feel about the MFC, than some new kid I have never met before and who will leave as soon as he is offered a new job.

You want to build culture, you don't burn the CC's of this world. You use them to the best of their ability as part of the rebuild of this fractured club.

totally with you Redleg, good people can make mistakes, but that doesn't make them bad...

this club has made mistakes about how its gone about the things it has, that other clubs managed to traverse easily... maybe due to out naivety..

the biggest mistakes the club has made over the last few decades, hasn't been the people its employed, inc Balme & Danners. Its put the people in the wrong roles.

IIRC, four people gave the evidence, all former employees who were disgruntled and had been sacked by the club. CC wasn't one of them.

Are you able to elaborate who those four are?

If we had've tanked, we could blame our poor performance on the dismal culture that tanking left behind.

But, luckily we didn't tank I guess and our culture is great, Neeld is god and welcome back Cuddles.

I just don't know how they are going to get Cam Schwab back in the fold?

ahh, one of Fans harem... there ya go...