During post match interview yesterday on 3AW:

Shaw: How long's your current contract?

Howe: Another 3 years!

Shaw: Gee that's bad luck, I'd love to see you in Black and White!!!

And I reckon a few others around the footy world would have the same thoughts (different colours maybe)!

Whats the point? He's at the dees and will be for a long time.

I think the point is Shaw appreciated Howes contribution to our games

To me that doesn't really justify the thread. I think this thread if continued will be focussed more on Howes contract status and likelihood of staying at the dees.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:11, Django said:

To me that doesn't really justify the thread. I think this thread if continued will be focussed more on Howes contract status and likelihood of staying at the dees.

There are plenty of nervous nellies who think:

1. We don't have any good players.

2. We cannot attract good players.

3. We can't keep our good players.

4. We can't keep the good players we attract.

It takes a f___ing mental gymnast to straddle all of these natterings at once.

Any team would love Howe because he has a near unstoppable trait with his marking in the air but also contributes in other ways. It makes him the perfect 3rd tall and foil for someone like Cloke.

Come September you need guys who can run, tackle, and play hard football. But more than that you need guys who can rise above that and do something special when the pressure is on. Howe is a guy who can take a mark when no one else of his size and other attributes can.

If he was all flair he'd be perfect for a trade because we'd get good value and draft some more bread and butter types. But he's not all flair, he works damn hard as well. Still has plenty to improve on but you feel he'll get there.

What was Howes responce?

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:19, rednblue4life said:

What was Howes responce?

He didn't respond as others were quick to question him about aspects of the game e.g. "what did Neeld say at 3/4 time".(Can't remember his answer - concentrating driving out go MCG car park ).

As for bringing the matter up: I thought Shaw's comment was interesting "and" I thought Howe handled himself well and was pleased to be part of the team!

I heard this and it was pathetic. T shaw is a [censored] jockey

As bad as the dig from the boundary rider to the captains about remembering the song.

Cant they go five minutes without a school yard dig.

As I said previously i picked up that Jack T in the post game chat said something along the line "they are all out to get us" Hopefully this us against them attitude will solidify the team and stick it up a few of the overpaid media plodders.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:18, the master said:

Any team would love Howe because he has a near unstoppable trait with his marking in the air but also contributes in other ways. It makes him the perfect 3rd tall and foil for someone like Cloke.

Come September you need guys who can run, tackle, and play hard football. But more than that you need guys who can rise above that and do something special when the pressure is on. Howe is a guy who can take a mark when no one else of his size and other attributes can.

If he was all flair he'd be perfect for a trade because we'd get good value and draft some more bread and butter types. But he's not all flair, he works damn hard as well. Still has plenty to improve on but you feel he'll get there.

I have to say this (with tongue in cheek) He is also a Tasmanian..... There are more like him down here if only Melbourne Recruiting staff would take more time to look... They usually do not command as big a salary initially as most "Mainland" draftees do. We have recruited many successful players from down on the little island below Victoria. Howe is a similar player to Russell Robertson....High marking, good kick for goal etc., but I feel he has the capacity to be better than Robbo as he has the ability to play in many positions and is a very hard worker when he spills a mark,(which is not very often). He has a great future at MFC (injury free) He is also a great reader of the play and I am sure there is better to come from Jeremy...

Opposition fans love him. My Collingwood supporting colleague won't shut up about him.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:30, Rocknroll said:

I heard this and it was pathetic. T shaw is a [censored] jockey

As bad as the dig from the boundary rider to the captains about remembering the song.

Cant they go five minutes without a school yard dig.

As I said previously i picked up that Jack T in the post game chat said something along the line "they are all out to get us" Hopefully this us against them attitude will solidify the team and stick it up a few of the overpaid media plodders.

Tony Shaw reminds me of Forrest Gump.... "simpleton" .. Thank the Lord he was only available on the Collingwood Channel, along with Eddie "everywhere" McGuire. That way we never have to watch or listen to the one-eyed "drop kicks".. That way they also get to waffle on with their Collingwood crap and have no one disagree with them as they are amongst misled individuals tarred with the same brush..Please keep them on their own channel forever !!!

On 3aw before he took his mark from the kick-in they were all talking up his ability to mark from whatever position he is in. Richo said he's the best mark in the game.

Tony Shaw said something to the effect that he would be incredibly damaging if they left him one out in the forward 50. It sounds a bit ridiculous as we already have clark up there (and in future hogan / dawes) but I wonder whether this might be a bit of a plan B forward structure in future. If players such as Ablett / Modra managed to hold down FF, I'm sure Howe could. I don't think anyone can match his aerial / marking ability and if they can, they wouldn't have the speed / tank to go with him on the lead.

Most games you'd want to back in your key big men and howe can contribute all over the ground... but wouldn't be a bad ploy to try if the forward line is not functioning.

Tony Shaw is in the bottom bracket of commentators. Even Dwayne Russell and David King provide more value.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:44, Supermercado said:

Tony Shaw is in the bottom bracket of commentators. Even Dwayne Russell and David King provide more value.

Shaw is not the sharpest chisel in the box. Was a great player, but dumb coach and even dumber commentator. Has a good face for radio, though.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:44, Supermercado said:

Tony Shaw is in the bottom bracket of commentators. Even Dwayne Russell and David King provide more value.

Too far.

Neeld wants Howe to be a goal kicking midfielder who can take a screamer, notice he had stints in the middle again yesterday.

That's what go him his mark yesterday, the guy kicking out didn't notice him coming up from the middle

Shaw is a [censored] of the highest order.

Howie on the other hand...in terms of his marking people are starting to put him into the Knights/Ablett/Modra bracket of great aerial artists. And to be honest, I think he's going to be remembered better than the lot. I've truly seen noone like him. That mark over Embley was just outrageous, and his one from the kick-in yesterday was almost regulation from him!

Every time we were bad and Malthouse was commentating for Seven he'd say Howe is one player that he can see becoming a special player for us. The one that can do the impossible when needed to spark the team, but at the same time still be a solid contributor.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:32, soxy@live.com.au said:

I have to say this (with tongue in cheek) He is also a Tasmanian..... There are more like him down here if only Melbourne Recruiting staff would take more time to look... They usually do not command as big a salary initially as most "Mainland" draftees do. We have recruited many successful players from down on the little island below Victoria. Howe is a similar player to Russell Robertson....High marking, good kick for goal etc., but I feel he has the capacity to be better than Robbo as he has the ability to play in many positions and is a very hard worker when he spills a mark,(which is not very often). He has a great future at MFC (injury free) He is also a great reader of the play and I am sure there is better to come from Jeremy...

Howe is a far better contributor than Robbo already: Robbo was one dimensional and didn't/wouldn't/couldn't chase or offer anything defensively, nor up the field. Sure, exciting and a "good club man" but really a one trick pony.

Howe on the other hand is one of very few who drag long-suffering Dee fans, and I must say some "neutrals" as well to watch MFC games.

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:43, deelusions from afar said:

On 3aw before he took his mark from the kick-in they were all talking up his ability to mark from whatever position he is in. Richo said he's the best mark in the game.

Tony Shaw said something to the effect that he would be incredibly damaging if they left him one out in the forward 50. It sounds a bit ridiculous as we already have clark up there (and in future hogan / dawes) but I wonder whether this might be a bit of a plan B forward structure in future. If players such as Ablett / Modra managed to hold down FF, I'm sure Howe could. I don't think anyone can match his aerial / marking ability and if they can, they wouldn't have the speed / tank to go with him on the lead.

Most games you'd want to back in your key big men and howe can contribute all over the ground... but wouldn't be a bad ploy to try if the forward line is not functioning.

He is versatile enough to consider even if just occasionally putting him one on one in a "Pagan's paddock" especially if our forward setup isn't functioning well.

  On 22/04/2013 at 02:05, Moonshadow said:

Shaw is not the sharpest chisel in the box. Was a great player, but dumb coach and even dumber commentator. Has a good face for radio, though.

LOL ;-))

  On 22/04/2013 at 02:14, Pates said:

Every time we were bad and Malthouse was commentating for Seven he'd say Howe is one player that he can see becoming a special player for us. The one that can do the impossible when needed to spark the team, but at the same time still be a solid contributor.

Mick is 100% correct, on this occasion.

  On 22/04/2013 at 02:12, Striker475 said:

Shaw is a [censored] of the highest order.

Howie on the other hand...in terms of his marking people are starting to put him into the Knights/Ablett/Modra bracket of great aerial artists. And to be honest, I think he's going to be remembered better than the lot. I've truly seen noone like him. That mark over Embley was just outrageous, and his one from the kick-in yesterday was almost regulation from him!

Agree Striker. I'm trying to think of players from the past who took regular hangers, and it's great fun remembering them......those you mentioned of course, but also Trevor Barker, our own Robbo and Shaun Smith, Peter Bosustow, Alex Jesaulenko, Michael Roach, the list extends. But Jeremy Howe is just beyond freaky with his predictability, and thus goes beyond anybody I can remember. He actually makes me laugh. And it weirdly makes me slightly anxious, I guess cos it just doesn't seem right, for a player to keep taking marks of the year, week, after week, after week. It just seems wrong I tells ya.......wrong!

  On 22/04/2013 at 01:43, deelusions from afar said:

On 3aw before he took his mark from the kick-in they were all talking up his ability to mark from whatever position he is in. Richo said he's the best mark in the game.

Tony Shaw said something to the effect that he would be incredibly damaging if they left him one out in the forward 50. It sounds a bit ridiculous as we already have clark up there (and in future hogan / dawes) but I wonder whether this might be a bit of a plan B forward structure in future. If players such as Ablett / Modra managed to hold down FF, I'm sure Howe could. I don't think anyone can match his aerial / marking ability and if they can, they wouldn't have the speed / tank to go with him on the lead.

Most games you'd want to back in your key big men and howe can contribute all over the ground... but wouldn't be a bad ploy to try if the forward line is not functioning.

I actually don't mind this point from T Shaw (although he is a [censored])- I say that because I thought Clark was good when we were under the pump playing as the loose man (he's a smart, agile footballer Clark) and I think he played the role well

So in future if Clarke does venture back as the loose - Howe 1 out up forward could work

Food for thought anyway

The good thing about Howe is he is actually kicking goals. He is doing more than just taking screamers. His goal kicking has removed.

It's a huge call, but i honestly think of our current group of players at the end of their careers wherever that may be, howe will be the best player of them. or maybe the player who wins the most matches off his own influence

  On 22/04/2013 at 09:32, Demonfan26 said:

It's a huge call, but i honestly think of our current group of players at the end of their careers wherever that may be, howe will be the best player of them. or maybe the player who wins the most matches off his own influence

Big call, Clark, JT, Grimes and Viney?