POST MATCH DISCUSSION

[CHAMP 347]

If Mitch is unable to play next week do we bring Spencer in to play in the ruck and put Jamar down forward. I'm just thinking that in the past Jamar has been an excellent mark and kick for goal and giving him a break from the centre bounce may be the opportunity for him to find that flair that seems to have gone missing this year.

Who comes in for JV - Macca. He could tag Moloney all game. Hold his arms down so he can't point.

No. Mark did once kick 5 goals against Carlton from 6 possesions but this has created all sorts of myths about his potential as a forward. He was good today.

Think Setanta's five today.

Edited April 21, 2013 by CHAMP

[Dr. Gonzo 24,227]

I know Barry Prendergast for the most part was a horrible recruiter who fluffed most of our prized early selections.

But he found an absolute gem in Jeremy Howe.

Let's hope we get to see the kid in September one day because he's a marvel to watch and (I predict) would be a big game player.

That running mark and goal from 50 on the boundary when the game was still in the balance. Superb!!

Happy to say I was wrong about Howe - while everyone was salivating about him last year I though he was a one trick pony who could take a grab but not much more. I felt he had to begin hitting the scoreboard. Well this year I feel he has lifted another notch and is able to hurt teams with his disposal up the field and kicking goals as well.

[CHAMP 347]

Then WTF did you bother?

Hey BBO, you'd have been better off having a modest bet on the 40+ as I did.

[waynewussell 5,765]

Dr Gonzo... Nice admission on Howe... some others here need to take a leaf out of your book.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Maybe we could blame Frawley's poor form on Watts - they do seem to be very close now ....... maybe Watts softness is contagious!

[thaipantsman 180]

Evans: hadn't seen anything in him until today, he was superb.. same goes for Tapscott, apart from the two shocking shots on goal. Byrnes was excellent too.. MJones, Terlich, big maxy, Bail even Pedo did a few quality things.. there is nothing more pleasing than seeing these second shelf types prove themselves

I can't believe people aren't more pumped, 12 goals in a quarter without Clark and Dawes, dodgy video reviews, dogy ump calls, some shocking luck (eg the ball bouncing striaght over tommy mac to setanta) some stupid frees/50s against Clark and Jetta, we should have won by considerably more than 41. We also conceded 5 goals in 12 minutes in the second when they completely lost focus.. but they got it back big time. Playing what is likely to be another winless side next week, let's all stop wallowing and get fired up

I'm pumped and didn't even see the game! Rapt they selected Gawn.

[thaipantsman 180]

Maybe we could blame Frawley's poor form on Watts - they do seem to be very close now ....... maybe Watts softness is contagious!

Spud, Howe and Watts are close. This is good. Great to see Sylvia'a passion after the match. Every team needs a scallywag or 3.

[DeeZee 7,417]

Howe was amazing today, he is fast becominga complete player, with amazing tricks.

Like Jesalenko a real high flying utility.

[thaipantsman 180]

Watts is not soft. As Lloydee keeps reminding us this kid should be selected every week regardless. Watts will be a champion in two years.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Howe was amazing today, he is fast becominga complete player, with amazing tricks.

Like Jesalenko a real high flying utility.

Maybe a bit like Nathan Fyfe.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,227]

agreed but it has to be said that his 'on' games occur far more regularly against poorer opponents

He needs to be played in the middle as he was in the last and have the pressure on him to perform don't let him hide up in the forward line.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Watts is not soft. As Lloydee keeps reminding us this kid should be selected every week regardless. Watts will be a champion in two years.

I strongly disagree - we should not be giving games to players on the basis of 'potential'. Players should have to earn their spots and I think this is probably partly the reason for our poor culture.

Neeld has two options:

1. send him to Casey until he can show consistent good form for 3-4 weeks (with aggression)

or

2. Keep him in AFL for 4-5 weeks in the hope that he shows some form

He should not be coming in and out of the side. I would go with sending him to Casey - show him that he needs to change his attitude/performance

Edited April 21, 2013 by Young Dee

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Neeld made the assistant coaches leave the huddle early.

He got the players in real close - the rest is history.

Couple of observations:

1. Quite a few players sought out Scully to shake his hand....I hate him, but [censored], he knows how to run to space.

2. Moloney was BOG in the North game for fingerpointing....what a disgrace.

[Dees2014 2,377]

Went hard and courageous. He didn't get that much ball, but he took some good contested marks, used his body really well and had some very nice i50s. Should have had two goals as well, but he seems to have a bad case of the yips with his set shots lately.

I must say I can't see any elite skills from Luke Tapscott. One of the major reasons he was recruited was for his hard body and his long accurate kicking. So far all I've seen is sure someone being hard at it but at a pretty below average pace. As for his kicking today, it was below school boy standard. He is a top twenty pick, and at the moment is not up to league standard. Edited April 21, 2013 by Dees2014

[chookrat 4,257]

I'd rate Byrnes among our best today.

His ability to get in the right places, present all day and ability to bring others into the game is really important. He also kept us in the game during the middle two quarters.

He's a great pickup for the club and at 27 I think still has at least a few years to give, both on and off the field.

I'll save you the trouble of looking up his stats:

23 possessions (12 contested) at 78%
3 goals
8 marks
4 clearances

He was a chief contributor keeping us in it when the chips were down.

[Pennant St Dee 13,235]

Neeld made the assistant coaches leave the huddle early.

He got the players in real close - the rest is history.

Couple of observations:

1. Quite a few players sought out Scully to shake his hand....I hate him, but [censored], he knows how to run to space.

2. Moloney was BOG in the North game for fingerpointing....what a disgrace.

+ 1 yes he absolutely knows how to run and spread, in 2010 I thought he and Trenners complimented each other really well and would be a great midfield combination for years to come. But that is history now and Scully is no longer of interest to me unless we are playing GWS

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Hey BBO, you'd have been better off having a modest bet on the 40+ as I did.

Nice one....what odds did you get??

[Webber 10,474]

If Mitch is unable to play next week do we bring Spencer in to play in the ruck and put Jamar down forward. I'm just thinking that in the past Jamar has been an excellent mark and kick for goal and giving him a break from the centre bounce may be the opportunity for him to find that flair that seems to have gone missing this year.Who comes in for JV - Macca. He could tag Moloney all game. Hold his arms down so he can't point.

You're kidding about Jamar!?!?! He is an appalling mark and very ordinary to bad kick.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

You're kidding about Jamar!?!?! He is an appalling mark and very ordinary to bad kick.

Actually a couple of years ago he was marking the ball well but he seems to have lost his rhythm when he attempts to mark now and is not hitting the pack correctly and is just not getting his hands near it. Today he took a mark near his stomach which he should have taken out in front or above, he just seems to be misjudging it.

[Schneider 220]

Happy with a win.

Gawn awesome! Hope it continues,

Silvia, please buddy show that 1st and 4th quarter effort some more, was great to watch.

Happy with the captains.

Watts... Some really good kicks. talented mofo, just something not right hope he starts firing because I think he is one of the most talented players in the afl at present.

JMac, Frawley not sure what's happening down back boys but let's get this working.

Anyway glad we gave GWS a good flogging, at 3rd quarter time that certainly wasn't the expected outcome.

[waynewussell 5,765]

Schneider, like your style! Be careful about laying it on too thick with JW... some of the natives will get restless.

[CHAMP 347]

Nice one....what odds did you get??

$4. ie 3-1, silly in a two-horse race and in such a stupidly momentum-based game which has been placed upon us.

Edited April 21, 2013 by CHAMP

[Adam The God 30,272]

Dawes said on MMM today he's still a few weeks away.

Pretty sure Dunn didn't play this weekend.

Watts wasn't as bad as is being made out, may stay in.

Blease was just ok for Casey, will be 50/50 but McKenzie a chance to come in.

Yeah, 2 to 3 weeks away. Bloody hopeless. How in hell can a hamstring injury take up to 6/7 weeks? Talk about a conservative approach.

[stuie 7,374]

Yeah, 2 to 3 weeks away. Bloody hopeless. How in hell can a hamstring injury take up to 6/7 weeks? Talk about a conservative approach.

He did say it was a conservative approach due to it being a repetitive injury. Said he was dying to get out there but understood it was best to take the safe approach in the long run.

[Adam The God 30,272]

He did say it was a conservative approach due to it being a repetitive injury. Said he was dying to get out there but understood it was best to take the safe approach in the long run.

Yeah, I listened to it. Still don't like it though.